Checklists and Tampering

By debiant, in KeyForge

For future releases, checklists should face inwards so that shady retailers/resellers can't easily reseal boxes to find out the contents.

This will also prevent places like CoolStuff from marking up known quantities still in the shrink (which I thought this game was meant to prevent). If you're going after a heavy secondary market, I don't want to invest heavily in the game. The secondary market is what ruins MTG for me. Chasing after open product is one thing, chasing after sealed product is another.

Edited by debiant
Additional reasons for checklists to face inward.

But what if I want to find a deck with a particular set of cards, still mint in the packaging, and I'm willing to pay $$ for it?

The boxes are pretty tamper proof, if someone opened it before me, it would be pretty obvious.

On 11/16/2018 at 10:04 AM, HaasBioroid said:

The boxes are pretty tamper proof, if someone opened it before me, it would be pretty obvious.

I think if an unscrupulous reseller was good at resealing, it would be quite easy for them to keep a vast majority of the players in the dark. I've tested this at home and it seems quite difficult to tell the difference on a carefully opened pack.

Largely, I bought into this game because I didn't want it to become about a large secondary market where money wins the meta, always. The secondary market ruins magic for me. Checklists being backwards at least requires the reselling of unsealed products—that is products still in the shrink or products that have been handled in such a way as to make tampering relatively difficult to determine.

On 11/16/2018 at 10:02 AM, WonderWAAAGH said:

But what if I want to find a deck with a particular set of cards, still mint in the packaging, and I'm willing to pay $$ for it?

Like the man said, "You pays your money, you takes your chances."

On 11/16/2018 at 11:04 AM, HaasBioroid said:

The boxes are pretty tamper proof, if someone opened it before me, it would be pretty obvious.

That wouldn’t be even matter. It looks shady as heck if someone tries to sell you a “legit closed box” for well over $10 its gonna send up red flags.

On 11/17/2018 at 3:02 AM, WonderWAAAGH said:

But what if I want to find a deck with a particular set of cards, still mint in the packaging, and I'm willing to pay $$ for it?

Read the icons, even of the back of the deck list you have the icons, so one set has to face outwards.

4 hours ago, Hyperjayman said:

That wouldn’t be even matter. It looks shady as heck if someone tries to sell you a “legit closed box” for well over $10 its gonna send up red flags.

The scheme these people would go for is sell strong decks with their deck list open at a high price, while selling weak decks 'unopened' near retail price.

10 hours ago, Admiral Deathrain said:

The scheme these people would go for is sell strong decks with their deck list open at a high price, while selling weak decks 'unopened' near retail price.

Yeah, I can see how that works.

Another reason to buy local then.

22 minutes ago, Polaritie said:

Yeah, I can see how that works.

Another reason to buy local then.

Local stores can scam you as well if they wanted. Buying directly from FFG would be the only way to avoid that.

38 minutes ago, Hyperjayman said:

Local stores can scam you as well if they wanted. Buying directly from FFG would be the only way to avoid that.

At least if you're on good personal terms with your LGS staff, you can probably avoid that.

Neither of my two favorite LGS proprietors would dream of ripping off their customers like that. We all know each other and game together.