back from self induced smoke break catching up

19 minutes ago, clontroper5 said:

hasn't claimed I think? read by Hero as Scum. Took part in the CV lynch.

claim is on this page.

21 minutes ago, clontroper5 said:

So that review narrows it down a lot in my view, already we have Gnips, ebon, and Lord preyer, as really the only possible suspects (with the ever present possibility that people are lying and everything we know is wrong) and we have a cop that has a scum read of 2 of these players. I think that makes it clear.

you are also a possible suspect though, and that same cop could also have 2 town reads and 1 scum? not so clear

2 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

you are also a possible suspect though, and that same cop could also have 2 town reads and 1 scum? not so clear

True let's take a look at history then...

Night 1 vote count:

@Bertie Wooster :

@EbonHawk :

@PodRacer : Matt3412     (L-6)

@clontroper5 :

@Caldias : CV, Clontroper5      , GNiPs (L-4) 

@GhostofNobodyInParticular : 

@Herowannabe : LTD (L-6)

@Madaghmire :

 @LTD : Ebo  nhawk, Lord Preyer  , Caldias, Madaghmire, Podracer,  Bertie Wooster (L-1)

@Lord Preyer :

@Matt3412 :    

 @  Constantine Valdor   :  

Gnips was the hammer vote

the only difference this game is for a first people have followed me more, maybe because of the jabba/broba catch last game?

I've felt very coosied up some times in this game from people where as usually I have to fight a lot more

2 hours ago, EbonHawk said:

Literally the worst defence and reason I've ever seen. FYI voting someone because they have the most votes on them isn't a smart idea and isn't town. You would've been better looking at LP/Clon your other reads considering at L-2/L-1 If i died you wouldn't have learnt anything about the others

What??? I didn't vote you because you had the most votes, that's absurd. I voted you because I've scanned you as scum. My vote was always going to be either you or LP. Again, if the town decides they'd rather switch to LP I'll switch, too, but all things equal I'd rather lynch you.

2 hours ago, EbonHawk said:

IF people want to confirm cops than the smart choice is LP to confirm both Mad and Hero.

2 hours ago, EbonHawk said:

I get me but it doesn't clear both Cops it just clears Hero, and if we're clearing Cops surely you clear both not one?

2 hours ago, EbonHawk said:

only reason to not hang LP when saying you want to check the Cops is because you know Hero is Insane and me/LP are an easy lynch

Why do you insist on pushing this point? @Madaghmire is already confirmed as either a paranoid cop or a liar. Killing LP does nothing to change that., regardless of what alignment he is. Whether LP is scum or town, the end result is the same: we know that Mad is either a paranoid cop or lying for some reason.

2 hours ago, Madaghmire said:

Given that we both scanned LP as antitown, wouldnt it make the most sense to burn Clon? Since you know, one of these things is not like the others?

Um, no? It's pretty clear that your a paranoid cop, but that doesn't say anything about me. We (Ebon and LP excepted) have no reason to doubt my scans until one of them proves wrong. The most likely scenario is still that I'm a sane cop and Ebon and LP are scum, and clon is clean. So the logical step is to lynch Ebon or LP. If they flip as town, THEN the next step is to either lynch me or clon.

Also, I find it VERY interested that both Ebon and LP have "liked" the post I just quoted. Because that's not suspicious at all...

2 hours ago, EbonHawk said:

Lol no it's not that, it's the fact you're clearly smart enough to understand certain things, but not smart enough to see that off Me/LP/Clon I give the least solve to any of the cops and yet you still want to push me hard despite it? 

LOL, funny that... like I said you seem to have some weird thing about me this game, you went after me D2 after scanning LP, you go after me yesterday and ignored LP even know we still ahd the same result, and NOW even after MAD scanned LP and You get Town on CLon, you're still pushing me hahahahah

AND why would you rather lynch me? when as shown to you LP/Clon either solve the cops, or solve your sanity respectively.. 

Honestly, you know why I want to lynch you over LP? Because you are very vocal and persuasive and manipulative in how you twist people's words and misconstrue and misdirect. LP has a little of that, too, but not to the extent that you do. Even if I hadn't scanned you or anyone else I'd probably be voting for you right now. Sorry, not sorry.

2 hours ago, EbonHawk said:

I don't get why hero has such a thing about me this game, the only reason he has voted me was cause he got a Cop result on me, yet even though he CALLED ME OUT for not voting LP. HE DIDN"T EITHER WTF... WHAT the actaul ****?

DUDE I mean you called me out for not voting LP tomorrow yet you voted for yourself? hahahahahahahahaahhahahaha

the only cop read you've voted or gone after is me, none of your others, even when you had the chance to do so hmmmm?

HOW ODD 

See? This is exactly what I'm talking about. I DID vote for LP. I kept my vote on him for a while, then changed it to myself when it became clear that people weren't going to trust me, in order to prove my claims. You yourself even responded to that switch by saying something along the lines of "oh gee I hate voting for someone who is trying to get themselves lynched because they're usually good."

Let's see if I can find the quotes....

On 11/24/2018 at 11:43 PM, Herowannabe said:

Oh yeah I suppose I should vote too, and I don’t have any strong preference between Ebon or LP, so...

##vote Lord Preyer

21 hours ago, Herowannabe said:

in response to a couple things:

I do what I want!

##unvote from LP

##vote Herowannabe

---

seriously though, lynching me makes the most sense right now. Lynching @Madaghmire , as @Caldias has been suggesting, makes 0 sense because we know that he isn’t a sane cop.

Also, let me remind everyone that just because someone (mad and/or possibly myself) is not a sane cop, it does NOT mean that we can read anything from their reported results. An insane cop returns opposite results, but a paranoid cop always returns anti-town results, regardless of what the target’s actual alignment is. Mad and/or myself might be paradoid, which if true means we can’t tell anything from our results.

Lastly, while skimming I saw somewhere in there that @EbonHawk was asking why I didn’t put pressure on LP yesterday when I knew he was scum. It’s because I wanted to avoid attracting scum ire so that they wouldn’t NK me, and I could live long enough to perform a scan or two. Also, I wanted to simply watch LP and see what he would do, who he trusted/accused, etc.

Enough said. #Don't Believe Scum lies!

1 hour ago, Madaghmire said:

LP would give us a lot of information as well.

If LP flops town- Hero’s insane , I am either insane or paranoid.

If LP flops scum- Hero’s sane, I’m paranoid and my results can be discounted.

If we kill Clon- If he flops scum, Hero’s insane. If he flops town, Hero’s sane

You can add “or hero’s lying” to pretty much all of these.

true

Re: multiple posts by @PodRacer :

Touche!

Anyway I'm not caught up yet but I better get this posted because I almost lost all of it once already.

Ok finally found night 2 vote count:

Voting   is now available. Day 2 ends at 5:00 PM PST.

@EbonHawk :

@Constantine Valdor : LTD, Lord Preyer, Bertie Wooster (L-3)

@LTD :

@Madaghmire :

@Lord Preyer :

@Caldias :  GNiPs (L-5)

@Bertie Wooster : EbonHawk, CV, Podracer,  Madaghmire, Caldias, Herowannabe (L-1)

 @GhostofNobodyInParticular :

@Herowannabe :

@PodRacer :

  @clontro  p   er  5 :   

Hammer was Hero

2 minutes ago, Herowannabe said:

Also, I find it VERY interested that both Ebon and LP have "liked" the post I just quoted. Because that's not suspicious at all..

what are you on about?

3 minutes ago, Herowannabe said:

Honestly, you know why I want to lynch you over LP? Because you are very vocal and persuasive and manipulative in how you twist people's words and misconstrue and misdirect. LP has a little of that, too, but not to the extent that you do. Even if I hadn't scanned you or anyone else I'd probably be voting for you right now. Sorry, not sorry.

someones read through previous games then, because you provide no examples to back up anything you said about me just words without founding... in fact they sound more like the words others would use about me in previous games not this one

4 minutes ago, Herowannabe said:

"oh gee I hate voting for someone who is trying to get themselves lynched because they're usually good." 

Calls me out for misconstruing words and twisting and then it no less than the next post down?

I said I don't like people who vote themselves. different meaning to what you put and who says OH GEE

Night 3 votes:

Pod was hammer

21 hours ago, EbonHawk said:

I always hate people inviting a vote on themselves, makes people think subconsciously they must be a good guy.

first (attempted) lynch @LTD : Ebo  nhawk, Lord Preyer  , Caldias, Madaghmire   , Podracer,  Bertie Woo  ster, ghostofnobodyinparticular.

2nd lynch (scum): @  Bertie Wooster : EbonHawk, CV, Podracer,  Mada  ghmire, Caldias, Herowannabe

3rd lynch (town)

@Constantine Valdor : GNiPs         , Lord Preyer, C  aldias   , EbonHawk , podracer.

I still don't like people being able to vote themselves.

2 hours ago, EbonHawk said:

Literally the worst defence and reason I've ever seen. FYI voting someone because they have the most votes on them isn't a smart idea and isn't town. You would've been better looking at LP/Clon your other reads considering at L-2/L-1 If i died you wouldn't have learnt anything about the others

What??? I didn't vote you because you had the most votes, that's absurd. I voted you because I've scanned you as scum. My vote was always going to be either you or LP. Again, if the town decides they'd rather switch to LP I'll switch, too, but all things equal I'd rather lynch you.

2 hours ago, EbonHawk said:

IF people want to confirm cops than the smart choice is LP to confirm both Mad and Hero.

2 hours ago, EbonHawk said:

I get me but it doesn't clear both Cops it just clears Hero, and if we're clearing Cops surely you clear both not one?

2 hours ago, EbonHawk said:

only reason to not hang LP when saying you want to check the Cops is because you know Hero is Insane and me/LP are an easy lynch

Why do you insist on pushing this point? @Madaghmire is already confirmed as either a paranoid cop or a liar. Killing LP does nothing to change that., regardless of what alignment he is. Whether LP is scum or town, the end result is the same: we know that Mad is either a paranoid cop or lying for some reason.

2 hours ago, Madaghmire said:

Given that we both scanned LP as antitown, wouldnt it make the most sense to burn Clon? Since you know, one of these things is not like the others?

Um, no? It's pretty clear that your a paranoid cop, but that doesn't say anything about me. We (Ebon and LP excepted) have no reason to doubt my scans until one of them proves wrong. The most likely scenario is still that I'm a sane cop and Ebon and LP are scum, and clon is clean. So the logical step is to lynch Ebon or LP. If they flip as town, THEN the next step is to either lynch me or clon.

Also, I find it VERY interested that both Ebon and LP have "liked" the post I just quoted. Because that's not suspicious at all...

2 hours ago, EbonHawk said:

Lol no it's not that, it's the fact you're clearly smart enough to understand certain things, but not smart enough to see that off Me/LP/Clon I give the least solve to any of the cops and yet you still want to push me hard despite it? 

LOL, funny that... like I said you seem to have some weird thing about me this game, you went after me D2 after scanning LP, you go after me yesterday and ignored LP even know we still ahd the same result, and NOW even after MAD scanned LP and You get Town on CLon, you're still pushing me hahahahah

AND why would you rather lynch me? when as shown to you LP/Clon either solve the cops, or solve your sanity respectively.. 

Honestly, you know why I want to lynch you over LP? Because you are very vocal and persuasive and manipulative in how you twist people's words and misconstrue and misdirect. LP has a little of that, too, but not to the extent that you do. Even if I hadn't scanned you or anyone else I'd probably be voting for you right now. Sorry, not sorry.

2 hours ago, EbonHawk said:

I don't get why hero has such a thing about me this game, the only reason he has voted me was cause he got a Cop result on me, yet even though he CALLED ME OUT for not voting LP. HE DIDN"T EITHER WTF... WHAT the actaul ****?

DUDE I mean you called me out for not voting LP tomorrow yet you voted for yourself? hahahahahahahahaahhahahaha

the only cop read you've voted or gone after is me, none of your others, even when you had the chance to do so hmmmm?

HOW ODD 

See? This is exactly what I'm talking about. I DID vote for LP. I kept my vote on him for a while, then changed it to myself when it became clear that people weren't going to trust me, in order to prove my claims. You yourself even responded to that switch by saying something along the lines of "oh gee I hate voting for someone who is trying to get themselves lynched because they're usually good."

Let's see if I can find the quotes....

On 11/24/2018 at 11:43 PM, Herowannabe said:

Oh yeah I suppose I should vote too, and I don’t have any strong preference between Ebon or LP, so...

##vote Lord Preyer

21 hours ago, Herowannabe said:

in response to a couple things:

I do what I want!

##unvote from LP

##vote Herowannabe

---

seriously though, lynching me makes the most sense right now. Lynching @Madaghmire , as @Caldias has been suggesting, makes 0 sense because we know that he isn’t a sane cop.

Also, let me remind everyone that just because someone (mad and/or possibly myself) is not a sane cop, it does NOT mean that we can read anything from their reported results. An insane cop returns opposite results, but a paranoid cop always returns anti-town results, regardless of what the target’s actual alignment is. Mad and/or myself might be paradoid, which if true means we can’t tell anything from our results.

Lastly, while skimming I saw somewhere in there that @EbonHawk was asking why I didn’t put pressure on LP yesterday when I knew he was scum. It’s because I wanted to avoid attracting scum ire so that they wouldn’t NK me, and I could live long enough to perform a scan or two. Also, I wanted to simply watch LP and see what he would do, who he trusted/accused, etc.

Enough said. #Don't Believe Scum lies!

1 hour ago, Madaghmire said:

LP would give us a lot of information as well.

If LP flops town- Hero’s insane , I am either insane or paranoid.

If LP flops scum- Hero’s sane, I’m paranoid and my results can be discounted.

If we kill Clon- If he flops scum, Hero’s insane. If he flops town, Hero’s sane

You can add “or hero’s lying” to pretty much all of these.

true

Re: multiple posts by @PodRacer :

Touche!

10 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

what are you on about?

This post here has likes from you and LP:

2 hours ago, Madaghmire said:

Given that we both scanned LP as antitown, wouldnt it make the most sense to burn Clon? Since you know, one of these things is not like the others?

10 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

someones read through previous games then, because you provide no examples to back up anything you said about me just words without founding... in fact they sound more like the words others would use about me in previous games not this one

I'm not talking about previous games, I'm talking about THIS one. If I'm wrong then you owe me the biggest I TOLD YOU SO in the history of Mafia, but that has yet to be proven.

11 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

Calls me out for misconstruing words and twisting and then it no less than the next post down?

I said I don't like people who vote themselves. different meaning to what you put and who says OH GEE

Touche. I apologize for not searching for your exact quote. And thank you for finding and reposting it. I still think you're scum though.

@EbonHawk , @Caldias , and @PodRacer , were on all 3 hammer trains.

LP and Gnips were on both town hammer trains.

Mad was on the first 2 trains but not the third.

Hero was on the Scum train.

And I wasn't on any of the trains...

6 minutes ago, clontroper5 said:

first (attempted) lynch @LTD : Ebo  nhawk, Lord Preyer  , Caldias, Madaghmire   , Podracer,  Bertie Woo  ster, ghostofnobodyinparticular.

2nd lynch (scum): @  Bertie Wooster : EbonHawk, CV, Podracer,  Mada  ghmire, Caldias, Herowannabe

3rd lynch (town)

@Constantine Valdor : GNiPs         , Lord Preyer, C  aldias   , EbonHawk , podracer.

It's worth pointing out that LTD was later killed and confirmed Town.

1 minute ago, clontroper5 said:

@EbonHawk , @Caldias , and @PodRacer , were on all 3 hammer trains.

LP and Gnips were on both town hammer trains.

Mad was on the first 2 trains but not the third.

Hero was on the Scum train.

And I wasn't on any of the trains...

interesting LP/Gnips were on both town trains but not berties? who after pod basically confirmed everything I'd been saying was as much a shoo in as anything..

##unvote for now

Yep, sooo on the me vs. Lp/Ebon.

I think it's pretty easy to see at this point which of us is bloodthirsty...

I suspect a Bertie, Ebon , LP scum team. It appears Ebon and Bertie staged an argument day 2 to spread out suspicion. It worked too except for Heros reads.