2 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

Given that we both scanned LP as antitown, wouldnt it make the most sense to burn Clon? Since you know, one of these things is not like the others?

This is my argument above the only logical choices for working out the cops is LP/Clon...

LP - Clears both cops / Clon - confirms Hero's sanity

1 minute ago, Madaghmire said:

Also Cal I thought you said you couldn’t self protect? Clearly you’re town but that means I can’t leave Pod as clear, despite my continued town read.

Pod, why didn’t you correct me? Or did you and I missed it?

Both docs are shady today, even looking past the quick votes... and why would pod correct you? He didn't want to hang LP in the day but pushed him in the end, and then as soon as I say I'm not convinced he wants me gone, even that weird post about not dying at night.. saying someone is unprotected and someone who has heat at that on them isn't usually how scum kill?

Did you have a quote for where cal said he couldn't self protect?

11 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

I  mean you are, you've taken it for granted all game. When you first posted  the cop claim and even now, you take for granted you're sane  .  

Uh... no, I’m not. I was the very first one to admit I might be not be sane, in the same post I claimed in. And even now I readily admit that there are other possible explanations, but this one is still the most likely. I mean, I get why you don’t want to admit that it is, but don’t expect me to start assuming I’m an insane cop simply because the two players I pegged as scum don’t want to be lynched.

14 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

Again  lynching me only confirms 1 cop but you're sure on it, and then after say g  o after Clon if I flip town.. not LP or Clon first? 

First, Mad has already been confirmed insane by Matt’s death.

Second, I’d be okay with switching to a lynch on LP, but given the choice I’d rather lynch you. No offense.

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and I’ll have to respond to the rest later, gotta go for now.

Just now, Herowannabe said:

Uh... no, I’m not. I was the very first one to admit I might be not be sane, in the same post I claimed in. And even now I readily admit that there are other possible explanations, but this one is still the most likely. I mean, I get why you don’t want to admit that it is, but don’t expect me to start assuming I’m an insane cop simply because the two players I pegged as scum don’t want to be lynched.

Lol no it's not that, it's the fact you're clearly smart enough to understand certain things, but not smart enough to see that off Me/LP/Clon I give the least solve to any of the cops and yet you still want to push me hard despite it?

2 minutes ago, Herowannabe said:

First, Mad has already been confirmed insane by Matt’s death.

Second, I’d be okay with switching to a lynch on LP, but given the choice I’d rather lynch you. No offense.

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and I’ll have to respond to the rest later, gotta go for now.

LOL, funny that... like I said you seem to have some weird thing about me this game, you went after me D2 after scanning LP, you go after me yesterday and ignored LP even know we still ahd the same result, and NOW even after MAD scanned LP and You get Town on CLon, you're still pushing me hahahahah

AND why would you rather lynch me? when as shown to you LP/Clon either solve the cops, or solve your sanity respectively..

I don't get why hero has such a thing about me this game, the only reason he has voted me was cause he got a Cop result on me, yet even though he CALLED ME OUT for not voting LP. HE DIDN"T EITHER WTF... WHAT the actaul ****?

DUDE I mean you called me out for not voting LP tomorrow yet you voted for yourself? hahahahahahahahaahhahahaha

the only cop read you've voted or gone after is me, none of your others, even when you had the chance to do so hmmmm?

HOW ODD

Just now, EbonHawk said:

I don't get why hero has such a thing about me this game, the only reason he has voted me was cause he got a Cop result on me, yet even though he CALLED ME OUT for not voting LP. HE DIDN"T EITHER WTF... WHAT the actaul ****?

DUDE I mean you called me out for not voting LP *tomorrow yet you voted for yourself? hahahahahahahahaahhahahaha

the only cop read you've voted or gone after is me, none of your others, even when you had the chance to do so hmmmm?

HOW ODD

*yesterday

23 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

If hero is insane Clon is a Scum so only you or him make sense IMO

I get me but it doesn't clear both Cops it just clears Hero, and if we're clearing Cops surely you clear both not one?

~~STATEMENT: lower priority is clearing Hero, higher priority is eliminating Scum. Hence, target @clontroper5 and, if this unit is correct, potentially achieve both after all~~

4 minutes ago, Lord Preyer said:

~~STATEMENT: lower priority is clearing Hero, higher priority is eliminating Scum. Hence, target @clontroper5 and, if this unit is correct, potentially achieve both after all~~

I agree, I'm not voting myself like hero did yesterday, I'm not confidant on LP being scum sorry pod, and LP is right of Hero/Clon, Clon is the best choice for me

LP confirms Hero/Mad but as Matt kinda confirms Mad, Clon settles heros for us

##vote Clontroper5

~~STATEMENT [Defence/concern]: excessive focus on trying to mathematically ‘solve’ this scenario may lead to a misapplication of research focus (particularly given the combination of the number of variables concerned and the ability of units to issue falsehoods).~~

~~On @clontroper5 vs @Lord Preyer each unit should ask: which reads more loyal CIS and which reads more ScumBot? If this unit is your ScumBot read, so be it. But this unit respectfully requests you consider our records in comparison and VoteZap Clon accordingly~~

31 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

This is my argument above the only logical choices for working out the cops is LP/Clon...

LP - Clears both cops / Clon - confirms Hero's sanity

Both docs are shady today, even looking past the quick votes... and why would pod correct you? He didn't want to hang LP in the day but pushed him in the end, and then as soon as I say I'm not convinced he wants me gone, even that weird post about not dying at night.. saying someone is unprotected and someone who has heat at that on them isn't usually how scum kill?

Did you have a quote for where cal said he couldn't self protect?

Pod should have corrected me becuase I was using his taking his action as a given. Town players should, by rule, point out errors concerning what they have done in the past. I’ll go look for the cal quote

On 11/25/2018 at 9:12 AM, Caldias said:

Okay, guys, I will full claim as it seems we might have reached the point where it is more worth the information we will glean than my life. I am the town doctor, I worded it the way I did to not give everything away. There is a restriction in my ability to self-protect. I worry I will be dead tonight. So, if Pod isn't lying, then we can do the circle of protection, assuming there isn't another roleblocker.

Hero's out-of-nowhere claim doesn't read as a scum ploy. No need to do it. I probably voted a little too hastily last night without thinking, I DID HAVE SOME BEVERAGES.

Safest thing to do is vote on Hero.

If he flips cop, we will know his sanity and how to proceed.

If he flips scum, even better.

##vote Herowannabe

Im not shading Cal with that, just explaining why im confused.

2 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

The day start post did imply to me Cal was protected by someone other than him... that would be pod I bet, but you're right he should've called you out on it

I don't care about sanity anymore, I'm voting the obv scum ebon who is out here taking the pi$$ consistently day after day.

42 minutes ago, Herowannabe said:

Uh... no, I’m not. I was the very first one to admit I might be not be sane, in the same post I claimed in. And even now I readily admit that there are other possible explanations, but this one is still the most likely. I mean, I get why you don’t want to admit that it is, but don’t expect me to start assuming I’m an insane cop simply because the two players I pegged as scum don’t want to be lynched.

First, Mad has already been confirmed insane by Matt’s death.

Second, I’d be okay with switching to a lynch on LP, but given the choice I’d rather lynch you. No offense.

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and I’ll have to respond to the rest later, gotta go for now.

LP would give us a lot of information as well.

If LP flops town- Hero’s insane , I am either insane or paranoid.

If LP flops scum- Hero’s sane, I’m paranoid and my results can be discounted.

If we kill Clon- If he flops scum, Hero’s insane. If he flops town, Hero’s sane

You can add “or hero’s lying” to pretty much all of these.

1 minute ago, PodRacer said:

I don't care about sanity anymore, I'm voting the obv scum ebon who is out here taking the pi$$ consistently day after day.

you've only jumped on me after I left the LP wagon, like as soon as I unvoted... not even gunna acknowledge the last point as I've done more to help this game in any of the previous days signally than you have overall...

2 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

you've only jumped on me after I left the LP wagon, like as soon as I unvoted... not even gunna acknowledge the last point as I've done more to help this game in any of the previous days signally than you have overall...

Pod was instrumental in hanging bertie

Here's a list of people who don't get to come out here today and be taken seriously about sorting the cops..

everyone on the cv wagon.

that is all

Just now, Madaghmire said:

Pod was instrumental in hanging bertie

yes but only after the busdriver claim which is easy for anyone when you know something to counter like he did, which I don't discount

BUT bertie only got to the point for Pod to do anything after I found bertie and then pushed him into that claim... so who was more instrumental? Pod wouldn't have been able to come out with that without me which he now discounts

Just now, PodRacer said:

Here's a list of people who don't get to come out here today and be taken seriously about sorting the cops..

everyone on the cv wagon.

that is all

you're the CV hammer?

why not fight for LP if you thought so hard of it, instead of bussing CV and using that as an excuse to go after me hard?

Fact is if I had hung LP tomorrow I would still be here rambling about possible cult, but as it goes I'm pretty certain we're just in an experimental scum game, so Pod can push me all he wants, but that helped me solve some stuff my end... would do it again

Pretty clear your entire 'argument' with cv was scum pantomime

it was good you thought about bussing LP for a while...

town ebon just doesn't play this badly I don't care what you say.

Oh yeah all the cult talk smokescreen...

dont even get me going...

6 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

you're the CV hammer?

And?

1 minute ago, PodRacer said:

Pretty clear your entire 'argument' with cv was scum pantomime

it was good you thought about bussing LP for a while...

town ebon just doesn't play this badly I don't care what you say.

Show me where I've played badly go on, you thought it was so obvious why vote for it... ***** please

you have no leg to stand on because you didn't keep your backbone yesterday, if you carried on voting LP then fine but you bussed CV and then call me out, and as I pointed out to mad you would never have got bertie without me, so keep being satly