##unvote
A Tactical Malfunction [MAFIA]
1 hour ago, Caldias said:1. I can self protect and did last night, due to not understanding something in my role that prevented me from protecting Mads. I still think Pod is on the level.
What was it that prevented you?
9 hours ago, PodRacer said:Couldn't kill yourself eh?
this makes no sense?
didn't know day had started catching up
9 hours ago, Madaghmire said:Yeah, that seems like some conclusive ****.
##vote ebonhawk
really? so conclusive you didn't vote LP? and now see extra chummy with pod seemly only because I'm alive lol
9 hours ago, Herowannabe said:Mad’s scans:
Matt: Anti-town - confirmed town by death
GNIP: Anti-town
LP: Anti-town
My Scans:
LP: Anti-town
Ebon: Anti-town
Clon: Town
Funny this if Hero ACTUALLY thought he was a sane cop on any level why go after me? LP has two anti-town reads.. which doesn't make sense if hero got Town on CLon
Mad says LP is town looking at his scans, but heros contradicts and says scum, and clears Clon being town which just seems more convenient and way to take everything in the game for granted...
1 hour ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:I don't think he is lying, I think he is insane. You both got the same result on LP. Why lynch Ebon?
If we lynch LP we can test both his sanity and yours. If LP is scum, you are paranoid not insane and Hero is sane. If LP is town, you are paranoid or insane and Hero is insane.
Lynching Ebon only reveals Hero, not you. If you are going to lynch antitown read of Hero's, choose LP.
thank you, that makes the most sense considering Mad also got Anti-Town to go after me just makes me feel its a planned lynch... the same way hero went quiet on LP before and went for me instead... seems like I'm the easy target?
1 hour ago, Caldias said:4 hours ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:
1. I can self protect and did last night, due to not understanding something in my role that prevented me from protecting Mads. I still think Pod is on the level.
what could that be? anyone
1 hour ago, Caldias said:They could both be insane. In which case lynching one if his investigations is still the best play. They amount of try hard LP is doing to steer the lynch makes me think he is scum trying to save the game.
yep and yet again people are being put to L-1 - L-2 at the DAY ******* START people we have 2 days to discuss things the only thing a quick lycnh helps is scum!
Pod / Hero /Mad / Cal
Gnips/Clon/CV/LP did not vote
10 hours ago, PodRacer said:What do you mean? EBON is one of Heros
the only reason you're coming after me is that I didn't let you lynch LP yesterday, after which you hard flipped to coming after me? Tell me how that makes any sense
4 hours ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:I don't quite get this. 1) because it is a nifty way to clear him (assuming you are lying), 2) because why didn't you either scan one of Mad's reads to see if you get opposite results or rescan Ebon to see if your results alternated?
Ye, if you're going to go after me yet again at least drop another scan to prove you're insane... or like Gnips says scan one of mads reads would've been smart.
4 hours ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:9 hours ago, Caldias said:
You generally know better than this. What possessed you to put a 50%-chance town at L-2 so early without a claim or defense?
Cal was quick to jump onto the wagon, I wouldn't be surprised with at least 1 bad guy on there.. and after CVs roll I'm more inclined to take the 3 scum as viable and say we have 2 left... no way do 4 town L-1 within hours or a 48hr day
now mad and cal unvoted but both seemed uber eager to get that kill early?
Mad why not LP so you can be confirmed by it as well?
9 hours ago, Caldias said:I can pull the vote off if we're worried, but to me it seems pretty solid. Do we want to wait for a claim?
oh no he didn't unvote it seems he just said he could.. which is more scummy imo than the vote, if it wasn't for day start post and CVs roll I would say you're a cult... but why a confirmed town is so eager for the kill is odd
4 hours ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:Now, you have taken it for granted that Mad is paranoid and that Hero might be insane, so you intend to lynch one of the potential towns barely 5 hours into the day?
Not taking it for granted, but taking it as most probable. I see lots of people (with @EbonHawk at the top of the list) coming up with all sorts of possible theories to explain away the scan results, when the simplest explanation is a viable one and still untested- namely, that I’m a regular cop and my results are accurate.
4 hours ago, Lord Preyer said:~~RESPONSE : there is a third alternative (as previously stated on multiple occasions): @Herowannabe Is an Insane CopBot. As a consequence @clontroper5 Would be ScumBot a nd @EbonHawk would be CIS loyal.~~
I never said that there weren’t other possible explanations, only that this was the most likely. And of course, it goes without saying that if we lynch Ebon (or you) and he flips town, then the next targets should be myself and @clontroper5 .
4 hours ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:How would that be possible, unless they have a doc or another roleblocker?
Simple: they have a doc or another role-blocker or a player with an extra life. Haven’t you ever played a game where such was the case? I have. Admittedly, given all the scan results I think it’s highly unlikely in this game, but still, never trust someone 100% simply because they survived a hit. It will burn you someday.
4 hours ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:O r you are both insane.
Agreed, it’s possible. There’s one easy way to find out: lynch one of my scan results, and Ebon has been acting by far the most scummy in my book. His switch from LP to CV yesterday screams scum to me.
4 hours ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:I don't quite get this. 1) because it is a nifty way to clear him (assuming you are lying), 2) because why didn't you either scan one of Mad's reads to see if you get opposite results or rescan Ebon to see if your results alternated?
1) I’m not lying, but I have no way to prove that until we start lynching one of my scan targets and/or myself.
2) scanning one of Mad’s results is a moderately good idea, one which I hadn’t really considered. I might do that tonight We already know I’m not getting alternating results because I received anti, anti, town. Now it could be random or some other strange pattern, but again, there’s one easy way to find out...
1 hour ago, Madaghmire said:Yeah, thats very possible. But we wont know until we lynch someone in that block. Probably better to start with an antitown read.
Unless you think hero is lying.
Exactly. Thank you.
1 hour ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:I don't think he is lying, I think he is insane. You both got the same result on LP. Why lynch Ebon?
If we lynch LP we can test both his sanity and yours. If LP is scum, you are paranoid not insane and Hero is sane. If LP is town, you are paranoid or insane and Hero is insane.
Lynching Ebon only reveals Hero, not you. If you are going to lynch antitown read of Hero's, choose LP .
A fair point. I went with Ebon because the votes started out on him today, and because scan results aside he still feels far and away the most scummy to me. I am also starting to get very curious why you are working so hard to protect Ebon. @GhostofNobodyInParticular I’m watching you.
1 hour ago, Caldias said:4. I act ually put him at L1 I think. And it is to see who hesitates to hammer him, which is good information to have, esp since lynching a target hero scanned is still the best play anyway
Quoted for truth.
7 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:Funny t his if Hero ACTUALLY thought he was a sane cop on any level why go after me?
Answered farther up in this post, at least for myself. I let you and LP off the hook easy last cycle, and somehow you managed to swing the vote to CV- who we learned almost nothing from. I’m not letting you off the hook so easy today.
7 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:yep a nd yet again people are being put to L-1 - L-2 at the DAY ******* START people we have 2 days to discuss thing s the only thing a quick lycnh helps is scum!
I don’t know, yesterday the delayed lynch sure helped scum. Even if my scan results are tainted, I’m sure scum had a big hand in swinging the vote to CV.
9 hours ago, PodRacer said:Clon is starting to read less slack jawed turkey muncher and more town these last couple of days....
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because he said you were speaking some truth in his eyes? awh baby
10 hours ago, Herowannabe said:Mad’s scans:
Matt: Anti-town - confirmed town by death
GNIP: Anti-town
LP: Anti-town
My Scans:
LP: Anti-town
Ebon: Anti-town
Clon: Town
~~STATEMENT: all units must make a choice: VoteZap a balance of probabilities loyal CIS unit (this unit or @EbonHawk ) or VoteZap a balance of probabilities corrupted ScumBot ( @clontroper5 )~~
~~This unit unsurprisingly favours the latter approach~~
~~Both pathways should yield data on sanity and paranoia factors but only one pathway may yield said data plus the liklihood of eliminating a ScumBot unit~~
Just now, Herowannabe said:Not taking it for granted, but taking it as most probable. I see lots of people (with @EbonHawk at the top of the list) coming up with all sorts of possible theories to explain away the scan results, when the simplest explanation is a viable one and still untested- namely, that I’m a regular cop and my results are accurate.
I mean you are, you've taken it for granted all game. When you first posted the cop claim and even now, you take for granted you're sane. Yet you don't push LP after you find him, you don't push him after Mads finds him, you push me? odd
1 minute ago, Herowannabe said:I never said that there weren’t other possible explanations, only that this was the most likely. And of course, it goes without saying that if we lynch Ebon (or you) and he flips town, then the next targets should be myself and @clontroper5 .
Again lynching me only confirms 1 cop but you're sure on it, and then after say go after Clon if I flip town.. not LP or Clon first?
3 minutes ago, Herowannabe said:4 hours ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:
Simple: they have a doc or another role-blocker or a player with an extra life. Haven’t you ever played a game where such was the case? I have. Admittedly, given all the scan results I think it’s highly unlikely in this game, but still, never trust someone 100% simply because they survived a hit. It will burn you someday.
I haven't I don't think
4 minutes ago, Herowannabe said:Agreed, it’s possible. There’s one easy way to find out: lynch one of my scan results, and Ebon has been acting by far the most scummy in my book. His switch from LP to CV yesterday screams scum to me.
Tell me how, how switching back to my MAIN READ ALL DAY Is scummy after putting a vote on LP for a repose and upon getting it from him not feeling confidant on the Vote especially after literally killing him the same way last game.. and nothing odd about Pod suddenly doing after me for switching my vote.. (maybe i wanted to see who would get rilled up by it)
6 minutes ago, Herowannabe said:1 hour ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:
A fair point. I went with Ebon because the votes started out on him today, and because scan results aside he still feels far and away the most scummy to me. I am also starting to get very curious why you are working so hard to protect Ebon. @GhostofNobodyInParticular I’m watching you.
Literally the worst defence and reason I've ever seen. FYI voting someone because they have the most votes on them isn't a smart idea and isn't town. You would've been better looking at LP/Clon your other reads considering at L-2/L-1 If i died you wouldn't have learnt anything about the others
7 minutes ago, Herowannabe said:Answered farther up in this post, at least for myself. I let you and LP off the hook easy last cycle, and somehow you managed to swing the vote to CV- who we learned almost nothing from. I’m not letting you off the hook so easy today.
Managed to swing a vote is a bit much, let me help you... What actually Happened was me voting my entire day gut read, I didn't force the CV issue after that jsut said I wasn't conftable with LP as I explained so PLESASE PLEASE PLEASE HERO tell me exactly how I swung that vote hahahahaahahahhhaahhaahahahah
9 minutes ago, Herowannabe said:18 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:
I don’t know, yesterday the delayed lynch sure helped scum. Even if my scan results are tainted, I’m sure scum had a big hand in swinging the vote to CV
Who delayed that lynch? Because I was online all day and posting and had my vote down. Remind me what did you do yesterday Hero? Did you vote LP or CV? DId you have not have a delayed lynch.. don't think so
++TARGETTING DECISION COMPLETE++
##Vote @clontroper5
~~STATEMENT: would possibly aid sanity/paranoia questions plus eliminate a potential ScumBot~~
IF people want to confirm cops than the smart choice is LP to confirm both Mad and Hero.
If you don't want to confirm the Cops, I'd look to onto the people voting me this morning, L-1 in a matter of hours is not a whole town affair
5 minutes ago, Lord Preyer said:++TARGETTING DECISION COMPLETE++
##Vote @clontroper5
~~STATEMENT: would possibly aid sanity/paranoia questions plus eliminate a potential ScumBot~~
If hero is insane Clon is a Scum so only you or him make sense IMO
I get me but it doesn't clear both Cops it just clears Hero, and if we're clearing Cops surely you clear both not one?
only reason to not hang LP when saying you want to check the Cops is because you know Hero is Insane and me/LP are an easy lynch
21 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:now mad and cal unvoted but both seemed uber eager to get that kill early?
Mad why not LP so you can be confirmed by it as well?
I read through it too fast and didnt notice that we both scanned LP.
Given that we both scanned LP as antitown, wouldnt it make the most sense to burn Clon? Since you know, one of these things is not like the others?
Also Cal I thought you said you couldn’t self protect? Clearly you’re town but that means I can’t leave Pod as clear, despite my continued town read.
Pod, why didn’t you correct me? Or did you and I missed it?