1 minute ago, Lord Preyer said:~~REQUEST: @clontroper5 can you please unvoteZap on this unit whilst this situation is explored. If you consider this unit corrupt after said analysis you can reZap. Thank you for your consideration.~~
Can I ask why your asking me Specifically and not the other 2?
Just now, clontroper5 said:Can I ask why your asking me Specifically and not the other 2?
~~RESPONSE: this unit previously issued a general UnVote Zap request and simply followed up when saw your unit was not active~~
13 hours ago, Madaghmire said:Lets look over it in more detail. The sequence of events allows me to believe that Bertie was the only scum involved, but I’m not totally sold. Bertie claimed Bus driver in what appeared to be a panic move, to try to save himself. Pod immediately called him out, because it would have been impossible for both his action and Pods purported action to work. Cal immediately votes Pod. Then he claims to know that someone else is a doctor. Now, if he’s telling us the truth, all of this is well and good. And he eventually does vote Bertie. (I’m too deep into this post now to go back and look at the voting sequence on bertie, but i’d like to see where cal falls on it.) That counter claim against pod is either town getting crossed up by fog of war, or a bid to save bertie by pushing the suspicion in what was a coin-flip between bertie and Pod.
100% on everything written above
Just now, Lord Preyer said:~~RESPONSE: this unit previously issued a general UnVote Zap request and simply followed up when saw your unit was not active~~
Ok, I will honor your Request. But 12 hours from now I will vote Again, unless something drastically changes things that vote will either be on you or Ebon.
++INTERNAL: emotion-synth: amusement at @EbonHawk approaching forthcoming eventuality++
7 hours ago, Madaghmire said:Ok. Lots of lagtime here.
@Lord Preyer why would you favor Caldias?
@Constantine Valdor why don’t you believe Cals claim?
@clontroper5 have you caught up? Any thoughts?
@Herowannabe where does CV stand in your eyes right now?
@GhostofNobodyInParticular You took a solid swipe at Cal before, but yesterday at hammer time you weren’t around. What are your thoughts about end of D2?
@EbonHawk whats your current scum team best guess?
for me now berties gone, gunna keep with the gut this game
I'm still off with CV, but as he seems to be more active today
top 3 wise still be looking CV/Clon/Hero/Cal
CV/Hero have seemed iffy since D1 and hopefully today they'll contribute enough to narrow themselves down..
To replace Bertie in my reads Cal/Clon... Cal for reasons to do with last night and his claim, Clon for his splurge in activity both I want to watch a bit more today..
13 hours ago, Madaghmire said:I have a town read on Ebon as well, although I wouldn’t clear him just because he got in an argument during a voting freeze.
I definetely wouldn’t clear Cal yet. Overall, the end of his D2 looks town to me. But the only person it clears is Pod.
Lets look over it in more detail. The sequence of events allows me to believe that Bertie was the only scum involved, but I’m not totally sold. Bertie claimed Bus driver in what appeared to be a panic move, to try to save himself. Pod immediately called him out, because it would have been impossible for both his action and Pods purported action to work. Cal immediately votes Pod. Then he claims to know that someone else is a doctor. Now, if he’s telling us the truth, all of this is well and good. And he eventually does vote Bertie. (I’m too deep into this post now to go back and look at the voting sequence on bertie, but i’d like to see where cal falls on it.) That counter claim against pod is either town getting crossed up by fog of war, or a bid to save bertie by pushing the suspicion in what was a coin-flip between bertie and Pod.
Here’s my thing with Cal. There have now been two nights where after he has alluded to having some kind of major role, scum have allowed him to live. At this point, we can deduce that role must be either role cop or doctor, and either of those have significant value. More or less than a confirmed town in LTD? Difficult to say. LTD didn’t have a night action, but it was one less player that scum could cast suspicion on later. Cal on the other hand, has been under fire all game. Maybe scum felt the best play was to chance letting him work and hoping town could be persuaded to vote him off the island. Or maybe they don’t kill their own guys. As this game has gone on, I’ve grown increasingly wary of Cal after a reread that was ironically meant to spot people trying to lynch him for being town. I’m not willing to drop a vote on him yet, but its not hard to build a case, even after yesterday.
Cal was hammer vote. I agree that Cal suddenly vote Pod is weird.
I still staunchly believe of the Cal-Bertie-Clon axis, with LP also a possibility.
Just now, EbonHawk said:for me now berties gone, gunna keep with the gut this game
I'm still off with CV, but as he seems to be more active today
top 3 wise still be looking CV/Clon/Hero/Cal
CV/Hero have seemed iffy since D1 and hopefully today they'll contribute enough to narrow themselves down..
To replace Bertie in my reads Cal/Clon... Cal for reasons to do with last night and his claim, Clon for his splurge in activity both I want to watch a bit more today..
So my splurge of activity is directly a result of free time, Tuesday and Wednesday I had some work I was doing throughout the day and couldn't post much. Thursday was Turkeyday and I was indisposed with family affairs all day, and Friday evening I caught up, and Saturday has been free so I have been posting.
4 hours ago, Caldias said:I figure it must be because they want to push me as a good lynch, and considering that Bertie laid hard into me and backed off once traction fell off makes me think that is probably the case.
possibly, I have to admit after last nights thing I can see that tbf, even IMO you're looking a tad off, but I think big part of that was the fast end and claims at the end yesterday..
3 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:for me now berties gone, gunna keep with the gut this game
I'm still off with CV, but as he seems to be more active today
top 3 wise still be looking CV/Clon/Hero/Cal
CV/Hero have seemed iffy since D1 and hopefully today they'll contribute enough to narrow themselves down..
To replace Bertie in my reads Cal/Clon... Cal for reasons to do with last night and his claim, Clon for his splurge in activity both I want to watch a bit more today..
top 3 but 4 names xD
well Sunday chillday, got more time to play.
Hmm your constant suspicion of me is annoying but I’ll be watching you closely since Hero’s scan of you 🧐
3 hours ago, Herowannabe said:H3 straightened up and simulated a throat-clearing sound. “Excuse me everyone? I have an announcement to make. Units @Lord Preyer and @EbonHawk have both returned a positive result during my virus scan. They are both infected. We... should probably dismantle them now.”
Lol well that's impossible but hey ho, I mean I know exactly what the Cop would get from me if I was scanned and I know you aint no ******* cop, so tell me hero, PLEASE TELL ME where did this absolute DRIVAL COME FROM?
3 hours ago, Herowannabe said:To be perfectly clear, it’s time for me to reveal my role. I’m a town cop, and a particularly lucky one. Night one I scanned @Lord Preyer because he seemed to be in that scum sweet spot where they post just enough with just the right amount of helpfulness that they don’t attract suspicion, and received an Anti-town result. Night two I scanned @EbonHawk mainly because I wanted to know if my D2 suspicions of him were well founded or not. It turns out they were, because I again got the result anti-town .
Liessssssss, why not raise LP yesterday when we had a balls to the wall day and why mention him now with me? like town have to pick 50/50... sure you're not insane? Because I am going to call you a flat out Liar if not. I know I'm VT and I know that nothing else would show up otherwise unless you're an insane cop...
any real or sane cops wish to share results disproving the above? lol
3 hours ago, Herowannabe said:Now, the next step seems clear: we should lynch LP , Ebon , and myself in whichever order you all prefer. I include myself because dying is the only way I can prove I’m not lying about any of this. Plus, there’s the small outside chance that I’m an insane or paranoid cop and I don’t know it. But assuming that I am a normal sane cop, we probably have all the scum players identified now. I don’t foresee mote than 3 scum players this game, unless maybe there is more than one scum team, such as a mafia and a cult as some people have been theorizing.
I think you're insane mate, I haven't read LP as scum hard this game... and I also think we're more likey to have a SCUM/CULT not 3 SCUM
WHY? Becasue now we have
1DOC, 1 BG, AND 2 COPS, PLUS WHATEVER CAL IS lolololol yeah no......
NO way do town get 2 cops and 2 docs with not one of them being a little insane rubbish... least this explains why you had a vote on me yesterday
Hero could also be part of a CULT which as I'M not in, there must be another VET in, which IMO a cop push on LP and me would be a great play, especially after Jabba doing it LAST GAME PEOPLE. Hero is INSANE, as I'm town which must be default confirmed LP as well
27 minutes ago, clontroper5 said:I think you will be... Intrigued
it was all pucker till the end lol
##vote Hero wannabe
until he gets back, either he's an insane cop or Cult/Scum pulling the stupidest play a game after Jabba did the same...
Either you're insane or Cult buddy? which one is it, because one keeps my vote on you...
Would be nice to hear from `Cal the other dude who claimed cop now
11 minutes ago, Constantine Valdor said:top 3 but 4 names xD
well Sunday chillday, got more time to play.
Hmm your constant suspicion of me is annoying but I’ll be watching you closely since Hero’s scan of you 🧐
my 3rd slot is usually always a 50/50 of two people...
and I can get it's annoying but if you also can't see why than that scummy, you're game has seen off and if you actually read my Top3 you'll notice while I still think you a tad off, you're more active and starting to be easier to deduce a bit.. I could've swtiched to you yesterday when you and bertie where equal but didn't did I?
Also if you actually believe hero is Sane, you're crazier than he is in game
also too town on WHAT PLANET is it a good idea to ever have 3 votes on someone this early, because assuming
CLON, CAL, GNIPS I asked you, you'd all tell me you're town wouldn't you, so why in a game when we have upwards of 2-3 possible bad guys still would it be a good idea to put anyone half way into a lycnh?
48hours does that mean nothing to people? Look how close yesterday got.
ALL 3 of you are being watched now, I find it so odd, especially as none of you even discuss him being INSANE not even you CAl!
aren't you a cop bud?
new top 3: Cal/Hero . 3rd read Gnips/CLon
lol Ebon is on Overdrive, he mad, could he be really infected? take a smoke break
I see things cleary two ways:
Way 1: Hero - Insane Cop/Cal Sane Cop, would confirm me and LP, plus Hero/Cal meaning scum/cult is Mad/Pod/Clon/CV/Gnips
Way 2: Hero is lying/Cal is a cop, would mean his case would be to hang LP/Me, so either 1 of me/LP is in cohoots with Hero and the plan is to give up me or LP for Role Cred and a free kill on the other (See Jabbas Scum Cop last game) or he's cult, and would be able to recruit one of us tomorrow, maybe putting Cult in the winning position.
9 people left, 1 scum, 8 town. Max of 3 Cult, kill me/LP today recurits the other one, now it looks like 1 scum, 4 town, 4 cult, booom cult are winning.
Seems to me like a well thought out Cult plan, as scum won't kill hero knowing they could lynch him after me/lp roll town, but the next day with scum, the cult would control the vote.
1 minute ago, Constantine Valdor said:lol Ebon is on Overdrive, he mad, could he be really infected? take a smoke break
I'm smoking, I actually haven't been called out in many games as scum, I actually survived last game which was a first ever for me, me going a bit OTT for being scum pushed ain't new...
If you call me scum in a game you gotta have reasons and a case that's foolproof or I'll see straight through it, ala this being a tasty Cult move in my eyes, that maths works and, if we had 2 docs and 2 cops for only 3 scum then lol, my moneys on a 2 scum/1 cult start
~~REQUEST: @Caldias unVoteZap~~
~~QUERY/CONCERN: Why would experienced unit like Caldias risk a Turbo on this unit when Caldias unit has previously demonstrated far greater care and circumspection for dangers and alternative explanations.~~
2 minutes ago, Lord Preyer said:~~REQUEST: @Caldias unVoteZap~~
~~QUERY/CONCERN: Why would experienced unit like Caldias risk a Turbo on this unit when Caldias unit has previously demonstrated far greater care and circumspection for dangers and alternative explanations.~~
Observation: Unlikely majority of 3 are bad, I suspect 1 cult on the wagon and two town responding to a cop claim.
I'm also pretty sure in a cult you keep your powers as well, so if hero was a cop and insane at that he would keep the role in the cult, which would make the cult own a very powerful tool agasint town
4 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:Observation : Unlikely majority of 3 are bad, I suspect 1 cult on the w agon and two town responding to a cop claim.
~~STATEMENT: affirmative. Estimate % decacending from @Caldias (markedly suspicious action) to @clontroper5 (somewhat suspicious action but mitigated somewhat by reasonableness and UnVoteZap) to @Herowannabe (low suspicion due to understandable desire to believe self was sane/unparanoid. Still, greater self-sceptism is advisable)~~
If this is a cult like I think, if we take most town games previous as factors, once me/lp roll town, town will do 1 of 2 things, hang hero for lying, accept him as insane and pass him and LP, which if as I say cult planned on recruiting either me/lp based on who survived, if they went untargeted as town history would suggest, that's a cult win the next day on best odds, even if they lose one tomorrow aka hero or the recruited LP/me they would still stand the best chance of winning.
Until I hear back from the other Cop aka Cal, I'm inclined to believe my gut and keep my vote on hero for what i'm seeing as cult