4 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:I'm still waiting on....
substance
Working on it.
A Tactical Malfunction [MAFIA]
16 hours ago, The Jabbawookie said:Voting is now available. Day 2 ends at 5:00 PM PST.
@Constantine Valdor : LTD, Lord Preyer, Bertie Wooster (L-3)
@LTD :
@Caldias : GNiPs (L-5)
@Bertie Wooster : EbonHawk, CV, Podracer, Madaghmire (L-3)
@PodRacer : Caldias (L-5)
2 hours, 9 minutes to nightfall.
Edited by The Jabbawookie8 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:what lends you to cal/bertie?
regarding the D1 Cal voting Matt and Bertie starting train vote Cal, but stopped halfway through.
D2 Bertie's suspicion of Cal just evaporates.
26 minutes ago, Constantine Valdor said:I suspected Cal - Bertie - Clon
pretty sure on Cal/Bertie , the last guy maybe someone else.
Playing through a national holiday kinda distract half of the players here.
as a mathematician you must show your workings...
how did you arrive at townreads for others?
Reading thru LP's post also mostly just observation and trainwagoning post (after 2/3 prior votes on someone), just saying, cause people call me out If I did it.
LTD meanwhile may look like town, but since it's an experimental game, he could be assigned a scum one use lynchproof ability, I mean if Town had that kind of powerful ability, shouldn't scum NK him? They also don't know if his ability is one use or not, alas poor Matt had to pay.
Oh **** 2 hours...
Just now, PodRacer said:as a mathematician you must show your workings...
how did you arrive at townreads for others?
on Ebon I see consistency between this game and last one, I only play twice with him, alas not too much data to work with. He tries to motivate Town to vote on someone and giving good reason on why, even if I'm one of them.
on you Pod well shucks, you taught me to play. Level headed post half the time, alcohol induced on the other half xD. I don't see anything off reading through your posts this game.
on Mads, not enough data, but he's known to be a sneaky one
on GNIP, not enough data, but hoo boy that space mafia game, super sneaky move
Basicly what runs on my mind in this game, hahahaha
We’re running low on time, and I haven’t had the time or opportunity to do an exhaustive deep dive. Here’s a quick summary of where I am focused;
I don’t like the Cal train. He hasn’t looked scum to me. I have a pet hypothesis that there is a scum element to the push, using the spectre of his reputation against him. I need to go back and identify where the most opportunistic scum placement is. I could be wrong, of course. Cal might just have me tricked. But I think this is our best way to go d2.
##unvote
##vote Constantine Valdor
When Pod asked about why Cal/Bertie, he only gave his reasons for suspecting me, not Caldias. I still haven't seen a good reason from CV for voting Caldias, mostly his "rivalry" seems to be his reason, not a great reason IMO.
Just now, Bertie Wooster said:##unvote
##vote Constantine Valdor
When Pod asked about why Cal/Bertie, he only gave his reasons for suspecting me, not Caldias. I still haven't seen a good reason from CV for voting Caldias, mostly his "rivalry" seems to be his reason, not a great reason IMO.
Lol this guy is itchy, GNIP assessment on Cal was quite spot on on D1
## unvote
## vote Bertie Wooster
If we can't get the master today, at least the padawan can hang.
18 minutes ago, Constantine Valdor said:LTD meanwhile may look like town, but since it's an experimental game, he could be assigned a scum one use lynchproof ability, I mean if Town had that kind of powerful ability, shouldn't scum NK him? They also don't know if his ability is one use or not, alas poor Matt had to pay.
This is my concern. If everybody considered him as a softly confirmed town, why wasn't he instantly night killed?
23 minutes ago, The Jabbawookie said:2 hours, 9 minutes to nightfall.
coming back in hour 50 left... between bertie and CV... I've put the case for both of them to you all, and they're the two highest at the moment... seems pointless for me to switch again between them so i'm staying where I am.. we need discussion and votes now, preferably in that order
Just now, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:This is my concern. If everybody considered him as a softly confirmed town, why wasn't he instantly night killed?
that's a good point, in theory if 2 scum, maybe the cult gets a lynchproof if they start out with only 1 person... although with 2 hours left I'm more inclined to look towards my current reads and look to LTD tomorrow
16 minutes ago, PodRacer said:
I may change, given the lack of traction, to either CV or Bertie. Probably more likely to be Bertie, due to his slightly changed playstyle, but I am not feeling confident either way.
2 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:I may change, given the lack of traction, to either CV or Bertie. Probably more likely to be Bertie, due to his slightly changed playstyle, but I am not feeling confident either way.
I feel like you are on the wagon I'd most likely follow at this point.
Although the case of Scum Cal Is unproven, I'm not feeling alot of solve from Town! Cal Right Now
2 minutes ago, PodRacer said:I feel like you are on the wagon I'd most likely follow at this point.
Although the case of Scum Cal Is unproven, I'm not feeling alot of solve from Town ! Cal Right Now
You're not the only one, there's more than a few.. and if we think scum/cult assuming they start 2/1 that means we have 4 bad guys minimum active right now, and I'd bet if it was the case 2 will be lurking 1 from each side either way it would explain why some people have been quiet
Okay, I am still catching up but here are a couple random thoughts and responses to stuff that I should have responded to days ago while I’m working on everything.
First, in response to Ebon’s backlash against my suspecting him:
On 11/21/2018 at 8:32 AM, EbonHawk said:Hmm, one of your reasons for voting me is saying LTD is clean? haha which is then cleared...
So you're only reasons to vote me is 'I look too clean' xD Sorry I don't look more scum for you Hero... Funny how I'm your top suspect right after I put you in my guts top 4
I registered that you had put me in your top 4 but honestly that didn’t enter into it at all. Suspecting someone because of who they suspect (even if it’s me) is silly. Scum players usually know to express suspicions on a variety of players, scum and town alike, and town players are usually all over the place because they don’t know who to suspect.
On 11/21/2018 at 10:19 AM, EbonHawk said:I can get that.. honestly I would be more surprised by you mad if you didn't distrust the read.. I've been second guessing myself today as well, I won't lie that I'm more than a little confused with my reads rn, but as said gut wise I'm seeing Bertie/Hero, Bertie just seems off this game, and hero came in hard pushing the me/cal point , which is sus because IMO it's the easy train RN to jump onto considering a lot of reasons have been given by others to hide behind
That’s a bit of an exaggeration. One post expressing mild suspicion (65%), even with a vote attached, is far from pushing hard.
Honestly right now I’m still suspicious of you @EbonHawk , but now it’s more because of how you reacted to my initial poke rather than how you acted before. Your response feels a lot more like a scum player on the defensive than a town player wrongly accused.
As far as the current discussion goes:
1 minute ago, EbonHawk said:that's a good point, in theory if 2 scum, maybe the cult gets a lynchproof if they start out with only 1 person... although with 2 hours left I'm more inclined to look towards my current reads and look to LTD tomorrow
Let me be clear, I still think it’s highly likely that LTD is village, but we shouldn’t take it as guaranteed. If LTD is still alive by the time day 4 or so rolls around, then it’s time to start looking closer at him.
6 minutes ago, Herowannabe said:That’s a bit of an exaggeration. One post expressing mild suspicion (65%), even with a vote attached, is far from pushing hard.
Fair enough, though at the time in the context of the posts from others coming in and whopping a %chart down with the two people getting some flak from a few people as the highest and vauge about everyone else, to me felt like hedging bets for later in the game.... however could've read wrong..
But as you'll see in your re-read my main two are CV/Bertie.. you as a 3rd.. in a game with 4 possible enemies finding a 3rd and 4th person can be hard and doesn't mean you're a solid read.. hence the pushes on CV/Bertie and waiting for you so I can judge you more
46 minutes ago, Constantine Valdor said:Reading thru LP's post also mostly just observation and trainwagoning post (after 2/3 prior votes on someone), just saying, cause people call me out If I did it.
LTD meanwhile may look like town, but since it's an experimental game, he could be assigned a scum one use lynchproof ability, I mean if Town had that kind of powerful ability, shouldn't scum NK him? They also don't know if his ability is one use or not, alas poor Matt had to pay.
~~RESPONSE: NEGATIVE!~~
~~This unit has not multiply voted.~~
~~This unit has consistently signaled it’s growing intent to vote for @Constantine Valdor Unit~~
~~This unit freely acknowledges (and has previously signaled) its intention to be outsized influenced by @LTD unit~~
~~Finally, this unit did not accuse CV unit of having vote zapped LTD, rather the reverse~~
For those who have not voted yet, keep in mind it's probably best to vote for me or CV at this point. A vote that gives us information is better than no vote. Pod is my number one suspect, but it's better to vote for a lesser suspect than to not vote or waste your vote symbolically on someone that no one is voting for.
9 minutes ago, Herowannabe said:Honestly right now I’m still suspicious of you @EbonHawk , but now it’s more because of how you reacted to my initial poke rather than how you acted before. Your response feels a lot more like a scum player on the defensive than a town player wrongly accused.
This is exactly what i said though about hedging bets, come in put a vote down and some charts after really nothing, proceeded by nothing and as noted in the post above I've mostly been pushing CV/Berite as others can attest and only mentioned you in a handful of posts, no more than Pod or others.. for me to be your main suspect because of a minor 3rd placed read.. hmm?
2 minutes ago, Lord Preyer said:its intention to be outsized influenced by @LTD unit
whats this mean in basic?