Just now, PodRacer said:I'm am sus of hero, the fact hes been largely absent day to day but still claims to have nabbed a double scum results..
This is more than town could dreamed of and must be investigated.
see my point about finding LP as scum, and then not even mentioning his name in passing through the entire day... odd for someone who knows a scum imo
Am at work rn, we can dance on this later.
I do believe cal. With the revelation and the second cop claim, there could be other scenarios at play.. Like alt night sane insane results for one
9 minutes ago, PodRacer said:Like alt night sane insane results for one
Very interesting.
Were that the case, though, I at least know for sure that Mad's doesn't alternate. If Hero's does, then one or the other of his results are scum, and we don't know which, in which case lynching one of them would help us.
I do agree with Ebon, however, that Hero's silence is odd. Additionally, with 2 docs AND 2 cops, there has got to be some serious counterweight roles.
13 minutes ago, PodRacer said:Am at work rn, we can dance on this later.
I do believe cal. With the revelation and the second cop claim, there could be other scenarios at play.. Like alt night sane insane results for one
okay well I'll await the post after work
1 minute ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:Very interesting.
I agree if that was the case jabba would have a internet high five from me for a very interesting setup
23 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:one of cal/pod is lying
2 cops I can work with, 2 actual full doctors Nah
~~WARNING: in “experimental” scenario units should not rule out multiplicity of roles - even and especially if it is unusual~~
2 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:there has got to be some serious counterweight roles.
which as bertie is dead, means 2 scum left... but I still think a cult how else could the virus spread as jabba said it would in the game and heavily emphasised... which would mean 1 scum and up to 3 cult... 3 scum would only have 1 kill and 2 docs would nerf that to butter in most games so cult seems more than ever something I'm leaning too
Just now, Lord Preyer said:~~WARNING: in “experimental” scenario units should not rule out multiplicity of roles - even and especially if it is unusual~~
Just now, EbonHawk said:which as bertie is dead, means 2 scum left... but I still think a cult how else could the virus spread as jabba said it would in the game and heavily emphasised... which would mean 1 scum and up to 3 cult... 3 scum would only have 1 kill and 2 docs would nerf that to butter in most games so cult seems more than ever something I'm leaning too
only way i see 2 cops/docs is a cult.. not 3 scum with 1 kill between them
I bet Jabba is chuckling and chilling back on his new shiny chair because of the chaos he unleashed.
60+ new post and half of it is ebon’s, chatty fellow ey.
and He’s the only one rambling about this cult thing, tsk tsk tsk
Just now, Constantine Valdor said:60+ new post and half of it is ebon’s, chatty fellow ey.
I say every game I will post less, it hasn't happened yet though..
Just now, Constantine Valdor said:and He’s the only one rambling about this cult thing, tsk tsk tsk
would say every cult member ever, nice though that this is your only contribution in hours... ruffled some feathers eyy
##unvote as well, why pod comes back from work
2 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:
only way i see 2 cops/docs is a cult.. not 3 scum with 1 kill between them
Yeah I’m starting to see it. Of course, assumes the double doc. Given our sanity issues, I think the double cop was intended to cause more issues than it solved.
2 minutes ago, Constantine Valdor said:I bet Jabba is chuckling and chilling back on his new shiny chair because of the chaos he unleashed.
60+ new post and half of it is ebon’s, chatty fellow ey.
2 minutes ago, Constantine Valdor said:and He’s the only one rambling about this cult thing, tsk tsk tsk
As in a perfect cop world CV would be one of the few left unchecked as town, and for his early claim and lurking was already high on my list..
however after Pod confirming doc and other things he could mention he first draws on my posting (who here has played in a game with me and not seen me post half a page often? anyone) and then for focusing on this cult thing only... seems odd bud real odd
1 minute ago, Madaghmire said:Yeah I’m starting to see it. Of course, assumes the double doc. Given our sanity issues, I think the double cop was intended to cause more issues than it solved.
Cult docs keep the ability as far as I know, so would help cult keep alive verus scum as well if recruited, same for cops. So if one was recruited town would still have another back up
@GhostofNobodyInParticular : -Antitown (Mads)
@Lord Preyer : -Antitown (Hero) Cult?
@EbonHawk : -Antitown (Hero)
@Madaghmire : Claiming insane cop
@Herowannabe : Claiming cop (sanity unknown) Cult?
@clontroper5 : - Cult?
@PodRacer - claiming town doctor
@Caldias : - claiming town doctor
@Constantine Valdor : - Cult?
Most likely cult for me Hero / CV / Clon / LP - possible others Cal/Pod/Mad/Gnips
At this time 3 cult 1 scum IMO, either of the cops/docs could've been recruited, in which case it would be which cop has more reason to reveal as cult (for me hero, especially with the CV follow, and Clon swoop those would be my top 3 cults), doc wise would be a 50/50 guess at best not same as everyone else.
33 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:3 scum would only have 1 kill and 2 docs would nerf that to butter in most games so cult seems more than ever something I'm leaning too
Given that the cult would also not kill, two docs with 1 scum is excessive, as it is banking on the occurrence of cult recruiting doc before scum.
29 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:Yeah I’m starting to see it. Of course, assumes the double doc. Given our sanity issues, I think the double cop was intended to cause more issues than it solved.
See above. 2 docs, if one was meant to protect cult, would only make sense if the doc started as cult.
27 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:Cult docs keep the ability as far as I know, so would help cult keep alive verus scum as well if recruited, same for cops. So if one was recruited town would still have another back up
Not always. There are various cult types. There are those where leadership is passed along, those where all the cult members die with the leader, those where recruits keep their roles, those where they lose it, and those where the leader dies when he attempts to recruit scum.
And again, giving town double roles for the off-chance that cult recruits one or both can lead to very unbalanced scenarios.
Is there even any indication of cult, or is this just veteran paranoia?
1 minute ago, Constantine Valdor said:Is there even any indication of cult, or is this just veteran paranoia?
Paranoia.
4 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:43 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:
See above. 2 docs, if one was meant to protect cult, would only make sense if the doc started as cult.
Nope, both make sense... but IMO giving the cult a chance of starting off and recruiting one is more logical IMO, but if it's as you say that implies one of Cal/Pod would be the original cult member???
1 minute ago, Madaghmire said:Paranoia.
At a very high level
Skimming and trying to catch up on the 3 1/2 pages worth of posts that have been made since my last post, but I don’t have much free time at the moment so I’ll have to catch up later. anything vital I should be made aware of in the past few pages?
in response to a couple things:
4 hours ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:@Herowannabe - you can't vote yourself.
I do what I want!
##unvote from LP
##vote Herowannabe
seriously though, lynching me makes the most sense right now. Lynching @Madaghmire , as @Caldias has been suggesting, makes 0 sense because we know that he isn’t a sane cop.
Also, let me remind everyone that just because someone (mad and/or possibly myself) is not a sane cop, it does NOT mean that we can read anything from their reported results. An insane cop returns opposite results, but a paranoid cop always returns anti-town results, regardless of what the target’s actual alignment is. Mad and/or myself might be paradoid, which if true means we can’t tell anything from our results.
Lastly, while skimming I saw somewhere in there that @EbonHawk was asking why I didn’t put pressure on LP yesterday when I knew he was scum. It’s because I wanted to avoid attracting scum ire so that they wouldn’t NK me, and I could live long enough to perform a scan or two. Also, I wanted to simply watch LP and see what he would do, who he trusted/accused, etc.
6 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:Not always. There are various cult types. There are those where leadership is passed along, those where all the cult members die with the leader , those where recruits keep their roles, those where they lose it, and those where the leader dies when he attempts to recruit scum.
And again, giving town double roles for the off-chance that cult recruits one or both can lead to very unbalanced scenarios
Lol that would be it IMO, because at up to 3 cult right now., 4 tomorrow worst case.. killing the leader and them all dying would be towns only chance
3 minutes ago, Herowannabe said:Also, let me remind everyone that just because someone (mad and/or possibly myself) is not a sane cop, it does NOT mean that we can read anything from their reported results . An insane cop returns opposite results, but a paranoid cop always returns anti-town results, regardless of what the target’s actual alignment is. Mad and/or myself might be paradoid, which if true means we can’t tell anything from our results.
Fair point raised
3 minutes ago, Herowannabe said:seriously though, lynching me makes the most sense right now. Lynching @Madaghmire , as @Caldias has been suggesting, makes 0 sense because we know that he isn’t a sane cop.
I think you would be helpful but some others are definitely looking interesting currently, and I always hate people inviting a vote on themselves, makes people think subconsciously they must be a good guy, where I feel in a 3 man cult you'd happily fall on a sword in theory...
4 minutes ago, Herowannabe said:Lastly, while skimming I saw somewhere in there that @EbonHawk was asking why I didn’t put pressure on LP yesterday when I knew he was scum. It’s because I wanted to avoid attracting scum ire so that they wouldn’t NK me, and I could live long enough to perform a scan or two. Also, I wanted to simply watch LP and see what he would do, who he trusted/accused, etc.
I can buy that, but I always push people I think are scum because when you die people can go back and read your game see who you were pushing, and in my experience from playing scum don't tend to go after people who're vocal on them because of the implication..