1 minute ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Assuming that were the case, that would clear Mad, Hero, LP, you, and me.

Leaving Pod as probably town (given his throwing Bertie under the bus), Cal as selfclaimed Doc, and only Clon and CV unclaimed.

Assuming that there is no cult, those two would presumably be our best bet.

As for this magic circle of protection, I would like point out that 1) scum had a roleblocker, 2) BGs tend to die in in place of the target. They ate effectively 1-shot docs, 3) with this many powerroles, especially the lynchproof, what is to stop scum from having additional roles like strongman and godfather?

oooh, I like this...

Yeah if we take both as insane it does actually clear quite a chunk as town.. and on the circle of protection a scum roleblocker would make sense now I think of it, and yes a BG is a 1 shot if they guess right, unless doc is on them. Strongman could make sense, how would a godfather work with insane cops though?

and on the best bet is that Clon/CV?

3 minutes ago, Caldias said:

If NEITHER are lying, both are insane cops, it's easy to deduce who is scum based on who's left. I am inclined to believe Pod, as he was hard charging Bertie, and CV despite his unyielding quest to hang me, was also early on Bertie. So with that, I more believe that at least one, if not both, scum are in the pool of investigated players/players claiming cops.

It all makes sense till this?

POD was never in anyway hard charging bertie hahahahaahhaha, he was defending him for a good part of the day agaisnt me the actual hard charge on bertie. Pod even read through berties previous games to tell us he's town.....

and also as you say at the start if NEITHER is lying... then they clear half the players left, leaving you/pod/clon/cv....?? the only way scum could be in the cop pool/claim pool is

1. - a cop is lying.

2. - a godfather.

5 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

oooh, I like this...

Yeah if we take both as insane it does actually clear quite a chunk as town.. and on the circle of protection a scum roleblocker would make sense now I think of it, and yes a BG is a 1 shot if they guess right, unless doc is on them. Strongman could make sense, how would a godfather work with insane cops though?

Godfather returns town instead if antitown to a sane cop. So it would return antitown to an insane one.

5 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

and on the best bet is that Clon/CV?

Yes, assuming 2 insane cops.

I’ve been asked some off-thread questions, and here’s what I can say:

1. Any existing modifiers to a role will be mentioned in the announcement (barring certain roles e.g. miller variants.)

2. If an investigative role is bussed, they won’t know it, only the result.

3. In the case of a true draw scenario between town and another faction (e.g. 1 Serial killer and 1 bulletproof townie,) town will lose by default.

2 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Godfather returns town instead if antitown to a sane cop. So it would return antitown to an insane one.

Yes, assuming 2 insane cops.

okay so on the first bit, assuming both mad/hero are insane one of the reads could be on a GF..

on CV/Clon, CV has been a gut read all game, but Clon had the swoopy vote on Cal and was equally swoopy IMO only voting LP... 3 votes on anyone not even a day into 48hrs is odd in my book

Real fast, because some questions where answered, and I was able to look at Ebons posts. I'm willing to follow the CV or clon train, but after that if it doesn't bear fruit, I think we should kill one of the cops. Knowing alignment is revealed, hero would be my choice.

2 minutes ago, Caldias said:

Real fast, because some questions where answered, and I was able to look at Ebons posts. I'm willing to follow the CV or clon train, but after that if it doesn't bear fruit, I think we should kill one of the cops. Knowing alignment is revealed, hero would be my choice.

Sanity, or alignment? The latter is obvious.

If the former, I assume Jabba told you? If so, I would like to have @The Jabbawookie 's word for it.

2 minutes ago, Caldias said:

Real fast, because some questions where answered, and I was able to look at Ebons posts. I'm willing to follow the CV or clon train, but after that if it doesn't bear fruit, I think we should kill one of the cops. Knowing alignment is revealed, hero would be my choice.

I agree on hero, just looked back at mads claim and his implies true insanity from the Matt investigate, and my only problem with heros claim is he said he scanned LP as SCUM yesterday? But he spent the whole day writing posts to/about me? not pressuring LP at all, which is weird considering as he says himself he knew him to be scum and what gave him a free pass?

He also says he investigated me as a result of voting me? Yet he didn't vote LP or push him D1 either, and didn't do so today either? I question that..

1 minute ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Sanity, or alignment? The latter is obvious.

If the former, I assume Jabba told you? If so, I would like to have @The Jabbawookie 's word for it.

11 minutes ago, The Jabbawookie said:

1. Any existing modifiers to a role will be mentioned in the announcement (barring certain roles e.g. miller variants.)

Clon - 2 swoopy votes IMO and a lotta lurking

CV - Early claim and early lurk, seemed more involved later in game

for now

##vote @clontroper5 would like to hear from you bud

Oh, and voting yourself is totally allowed btw.

43 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

okay so Mad/Hero...

No matter who I look at as scum they both fit well IMO...

What gets me though is we can't have 2 insane cops can we? and out of Hero/Mad knowing my own role it has to be Hero who is insane, which makes me suspect of Mad..

But then Heros claim if cult fits perfectly.. either way if we think cult we have minimum of 4 bad guys operating right now which is good odds at getting one for us

Really? Make a claim independent case for me being scum. I’ll wait.

On 11/23/2018 at 7:25 PM, The Jabbawookie said:

Day 3 ends on 11/25 at 7:30 PM PST.

@Caldias :

@Lord Preyer : Podracer (L-4)

@Herowannabe : Hero, Clon (L-3)

@clontroper5 :

@GhostofNobodyInParticular :

@Constantine Valdor : Ebonhawk, GNiPs (L-3)

@EbonHawk :

@Madaghmire :

@PodRacer :

5 to hammer.

41 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

It didn't for Jabba but he did it anyone and it worked...

Jabba was pressured, was a day late, and was obviously lying. And thats not me saying that with the benefit of hindsight. Thats what i said at the time.

Pod can you protect yourself?

8 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

Really? Make a claim independent case for me being scum. I’ll wait.

I'm playing devils advocate putting out all possible possibilities, if you read my other posts you'd know you're not even near my Top3... Yet.

I need not make a case for you being scum, because I've not called you out as such infact the opposite if you read below

17 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

just looked back at mads claim and his implies true insanity from the Matt investigate, and my only problem with heros claim is he said he scanned LP as SCUM yesterday?

I think your claim is the most believable, but to give you a free pass and not point out other possibilities I thought thats right up your street dude?

3 minutes ago, Caldias said:

Pod can you protect yourself?

I would say if he is a BG no, because he would die taking the hit surely?

1 minute ago, EbonHawk said:

I'm playing devils advocate putting out all possible possibilities, if you read my other posts you'd know you're not even near my Top3... Yet.

I need not make a case for you being scum, because I've not called you out as such infact the opposite if you read below

I think your claim is the most believable, but to give you a free pass and not point out other possibilities I thought thats right up your street dude?

It is. I was responding as I read the posts. I read your posts as gearing up to make a push.

Just now, Madaghmire said:

It is. I was responding as I read the posts. I read your posts as gearing up to make a push.

Fair enough don't know how though, the only people I'm gearing to push is CV/Clon..

and again don't know how you can interpret that as a push on you? I point out the possibility a Cop could be lying and then go on to say, I think you're the most believable.. I even include you in the town mock up... the only cop I could see feeling pushed in Hero...

For what was a couple of posts mentioning you, what ones did you feel where me gearing to make a push on you?

21 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

I agree on hero, just looked back at mads claim and his implies true insanity from the Matt investigate,

That could very easy be faked, were he lying. . .

Also, Jabba didn't really say that sanity would be revealed. He said SOME add-ons would, then went on to show one that wouldn't which, coincidentally, has to do with returned alignment results.

Just now, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

That could very easy be faked, were he lying. . .

Yes I point that out myself when I logged on, part of what I think mad is seeing as me pushing him.. But just like you now pointing out teh facts as I see em

1 hour ago, EbonHawk said:

Hey bud, Mads claim is intriguing as it would seem to confirm in my mind you're pulling a scum play.. BUT and big BUT... Mads claim is more reminiscent of Jabbas than you..

Your reads give me/LP and as I know my role, I have to assume your sanity isn't all there. BUT the thing is with Mads claim, he adds in Matt (great as role already was known), and GNips (a great push if scum/cult and you know he isn't) 

this looks a bit pushy, but as afterwards I pretty much give Mad the town pass it seems odd to call me out for gearing up a push... if he had said hero or clon yes, but not him

also gnips^ thats the post where i mention the matt thing

4 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

That could very easy be faked, were he lying. . .

Also, Jabba didn't really say that sanity would be revealed. He said SOME add-ons would, then went on to show one that wouldn't which, coincidentally, has to do with returned alignment results.

To clarify: there is a variant of the miller which is falsely reported as scum upon dying. If the entire point of your modifier is deceiving others upon death or being saved as a surprise after death, it doesn't get revealed. Otherwise, it does.

3 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Also, Jabba didn't really say that sanity would be revealed. He said SOME add-ons would, then went on to show one that wouldn't which, coincidentally, has to do with returned alignment results. 

Well when I put the insane cop into are games as a Mod, it was only non revealed due to the sane cop and not wanting them to know.

What would you gnips think of the possibility Jabba would tell us their sanity if both insane? Maybe get town thinking on is the sane one? But with two insane I wouldn't see the problem with it being told IMO

Just now, The Jabbawookie said:

To clarify: there is a variant of the miller which is falsely reported as scum upon dying. If the entire point of your modifier is deceiving others upon death or being saved as a surprise, it doesn't get revealed. Otherwise, it does.

hmmm