A Tactical Malfunction [MAFIA]

By The Jabbawookie, in Star Wars: Armada Off-Topic

Ok. Lots of lagtime here.

@Lord Preyer why would you favor Caldias?

@Constantine Valdor why don’t you believe Cals claim?

@clontroper5 have you caught up? Any thoughts?

@Herowannabe where does CV stand in your eyes right now?

@GhostofNobodyInParticular You took a solid swipe at Cal before, but yesterday at hammer time you weren’t around. What are your thoughts about end of D2?

@EbonHawk whats your current scum team best guess?

3 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

Ok. Lots of lagtime here.

@Lord Preyer why would you favor Caldias?

@Constantine Valdor why don’t you believe Cals claim?

@clontroper5 have you caught up? Any thoughts?

@Herowannabe where does CV stand in your eyes right now?

@GhostofNobodyInParticular You took a solid swipe at Cal before, but yesterday at hammer time you weren’t around. What are your thoughts about end of D2?

@EbonHawk whats your current scum team best guess?

~~RESPONSE: @Constantine Valdor Unit had early/unneccesarily claimed. Furthermore, that unit appeared in 2/3 ScumBot scenarios projected in previous TacAnalysis by this unit. Contribution to CIS at risk of failing StratBot @Ginkapo ‘H.D.T.H.T.A.’ maxim.~~

~~FOLLOW-UP: in contrast, @Caldias is Scumhunting (granted, ‘Always be Scumhunting’ creed) but more significantly was important to accurate Vote Zap targeting of BW defective unit.~~

Here, but don't feel like full claiming yet and haven't seen much else as far as change goes.

To Mads, not sure why I haven't been killed yet. I figure it must be because they want to push me as a good lynch, and considering that Bertie laid hard into me and backed off once traction fell off makes me think that is probably the case.

H3-R0 finished sweeping up the remains from the two droids that had been demolished, then straightened. His voice modulator simulated the sound of a relieved sigh to show his satisfaction at a completed task. Now, it was time to be getting on with his more important work.

He retrieved his feather duster- the one he used to dust off each of the and shook from it his collection of tiny nano-scanbots. The scanbots swarmed up his arm and into the analyzing module in H3’s chest cavity. It took just a few moments for them to upload the data they had collected. When they were finished, H3 simulated another sigh- not a relieved sigh this time, but rather, a resigned one. H3 had succeeded in yet another task, but this one was likely to end with his being dismantled in retaliation. Still, he had to follow his programming.

H3 straightened up and simulated a throat-clearing sound. “Excuse me everyone? I have an announcement to make. Units @Lord Preyer and @EbonHawk have both returned a positive result during my virus scan. They are both infected. We... should probably dismantle them now.”


To be perfectly clear, it’s time for me to reveal my role. I’m a town cop, and a particularly lucky one. Night one I scanned @Lord Preyer because he seemed to be in that scum sweet spot where they post just enough with just the right amount of helpfulness that they don’t attract suspicion, and received an Anti-town result. Night two I scanned @EbonHawk mainly because I wanted to know if my D2 suspicions of him were well founded or not. It turns out they were, because I again got the result anti-town .

Now, the next step seems clear: we should lynch LP , Ebon , and myself in whichever order you all prefer. I include myself because dying is the only way I can prove I’m not lying about any of this. Plus, there’s the small outside chance that I’m an insane or paranoid cop and I don’t know it. But assuming that I am a normal sane cop, we probably have all the scum players identified now. I don’t foresee mote than 3 scum players this game, unless maybe there is more than one scum team, such as a mafia and a cult as some people have been theorizing.

If you all decide to not lynch me today then I’ll scan the next likeliest subject tonight. Probably Caldias, as a lot of people are focusing on him, though I’m open to suggestions.

3 hours ago, Madaghmire said:

@Herowannabe where does CV stand in your eyes right now  ? 

Given everything I just said, CV looks pretty clean to me. ;) But then, so does most everybody, just because I don’t think it’s likely that there are more than 3 scum players.

*dust off each of the T-series droids as they hung in their charging cradles each night...

I typed that, but apparently it got lost as I went forward and back between pages. :rolleyes:

Well that's a bold claim...

Well ****

##unvote

##vote The Jabbawookie

##unvote

##vote Lord Preyer

I'm inclined to believe but I have a couple Reservations based on the events that have happened.

I think he is telling the truth, however I think it is likely he is Insane, and for this reason I suggest we follow his leads, to determine the validity of his claims. If he is to be trusted then we should pull of an Easy win.

## vote @Lord Preyer

We thank you for your service

4 minutes ago, Caldias said:

Well ****

##unvote

##vote The Jabbawookie

##unvote

##vote Lord Preyer

Oh yeah I suppose I should vote too, and I don’t have any strong preference between Ebon or LP, so...

##vote Lord Preyer

4 hours ago, Madaghmire said:

@GhostofNobodyInParticular You took a solid swipe at Cal before, but yesterday at hammer time you weren’t around. What are your thoughts about end of D2?

I was around, but was unable to vote before hammer due to catching up. I would have voted Bertie, for the record.

I agree with CV that Cal's soft claim does not clear him, and his statement that Pod was more in need of claiming than he, after he counterclaimed a counterclaim that directly contradicted a suspect's claim, is suspicious and potentially scummy. His continued refusal to claim, despite being essentially outed as a power role, deepens this suspicion as the team it most hinders is town. If he has a role, then scum have no reason to doubt him and so they would just kill him. And yet his silence leaves town just that much more in the dark concerning what roles are in the game (and thus what might be available to scum). If he doesn't have a role, then he almost got Pod, a nearly confirmed townie, lynched. I am still very suspicious of him, I also don't take Bertie's backing off or pressure as any indication of Cal's innocence. It could have been a carefully orchestrated ruse.

2 hours ago, Herowannabe said:

To be   perfectly clear, it’s time for me to reveal my role. I’m a town cop, and a particularly lucky one. Night one I scanned @Lord Preyer because he seemed to be in that scum sweet spot where they post just enough with just the right amount of helpfulness that they don’t attract suspicion, and received an Anti-town result. Night two I scanned @EbonHawk mainly because I wanted to know if my D2 suspicions of him were well founded or not. It turns out they were, because I again got the result anti-town .

Now, the next step seems clear: we should lynch LP , Ebon , and myself in whichever order you all prefer. I include myself because dying is the only way I can prove I’m not lying about any of this. Plus, there’s the small outside chance that I’m an insane or paranoid cop and I don’t know it. But assuming that I am a normal sane cop, we probably have all the scum players identified now. I don’t foresee mote than 3 scum players this game, unless maybe there is more than one scum team, such as a mafia and a cult as some people have been theorizing       .

 If you all decide to not lynch me today then I’ll scan the next likeliest subject tonight. Probably Caldias, as a lot of people are focusing on him,  though I’m open to suggestions. 

~~ 🚨 INSTANT RESPONSE: request Unvotes whilst situation explored to prevent Turbo scenario 🚨 ~~

30 minutes ago, Lord Preyer said:

~~ 🚨 INSTANT RESPONSE: request Unvotes whilst situation explored to prevent Turbo scenario 🚨 ~~

Ha never, you were lurking and following other people’s vote. got something to say now LP?

2 hours ago, Herowannabe said:

H3-R0 finished sweeping up the remains from the two droids that had been demolished, then straightened. His voice modulator simulated the sound of a relieved sigh to show his satisfaction at a completed task. Now, it was time to be getting on with his more important work.

He retrieved his feather duster- the one he used to dust off each of the and shook from it his collection of tiny nano-scanbots. The scanbots swarmed up his arm and into the analyzing module in H3’s chest cavity. It took just a few moments for them to upload the data they had collected. When they were finished, H3 simulated another sigh- not a relieved sigh this time, but rather, a resigned one. H3 had succeeded in yet another task, but this one was likely to end with his being dismantled in retaliation. Still, he had to follow his programming.

H3 straightened up and simulated a throat-clearing sound. “Excuse me everyone? I have an announcement to make. Units @Lord Preyer and @EbonHawk have both returned a positive result during my virus scan. They are both infected. We... should probably dismantle them now.”


To be perfectly clear, it’s time for me to reveal my role. I’m a town cop, and a particularly lucky one. Night one I scanned @Lord Preyer because he seemed to be in that scum sweet spot where they post just enough with just the right amount of helpfulness that they don’t attract suspicion, and received an Anti-town result. Night two I scanned @EbonHawk mainly because I wanted to know if my D2 suspicions of him were well founded or not. It turns out they were, because I again got the result anti-town .

Now, the next step seems clear: we should lynch LP , Ebon , and myself in whichever order you all prefer. I include myself because dying is the only way I can prove I’m not lying about any of this. Plus, there’s the small outside chance that I’m an insane or paranoid cop and I don’t know it. But assuming that I am a normal sane cop, we probably have all the scum players identified now. I don’t foresee mote than 3 scum players this game, unless maybe there is more than one scum team, such as a mafia and a cult as some people have been theorizing.

If you all decide to not lynch me today then I’ll scan the next likeliest subject tonight. Probably Caldias, as a lot of people are focusing on him, though I’m open to suggestions.

Given everything I just said, CV looks pretty clean to me. ;) But then, so does most everybody, just because I don’t think it’s likely that there are more than 3 scum players.

Hmmm I agree on the LP sentiment, the Ebon one I need to re read further, since he was also a non Bertie supporter. Could be 3rd party role though.

6 hours ago, Madaghmire said:

Ok. Lots of lagtime here.

@Lord Preyer why would you favor Caldias?

@Constantine Valdor why don’t you believe Cals claim?

@clontroper5 have you caught up? Any thoughts?

@Herowannabe where does CV stand in your eyes right now?

@GhostofNobodyInParticular You took a solid swipe at Cal before, but yesterday at hammer time you weren’t around. What are your thoughts about end of D2?

@EbonHawk whats your current scum team best guess?

D3 and still no role claim, basicly just hanging a bone in front of Town.

Looking at end of D2 and early D3, he’s just changing vote left and right. He claims to know that someone else is a cop, but how? no explanation comes from him.

@Lord Preyer talk now, you’re a L-2 and I still haven’t vote yet 😤

2 hours ago, Herowannabe said:

To be   perfectly clear, it’s time for me to reveal my role. I’m a town cop, and a particularly lucky one. Night one I scanned @Lord Preyer because he seemed to be in that scum sw  eet spot where they post just enough with just the right amount of helpfulness that they don’t attract suspicion, and received an Anti-town result. Night two I scanned @EbonHawk mainly because I wanted to know if my D2 suspicions of him were well founded or not. It turns out they were, because I again got the result anti-town .

Now, the next step seems clear: we should lynch LP , Ebon , and myself in whichever order you all prefer. I include myself because dying is the only way I can prove I’m not lying about any of this. Plus, there’s the small outside chance that I’m an insane or paranoid cop and I don’t know it. But assuming that I am a normal sane cop, we probably have all the scum players identified now. I don’t foresee mote than 3 scum players this game, unless maybe there is more than one scum team, such as a mafia and a cult as some people have been theorizing            .

If you all decide to not ly  nch me today then I’ll scan the next likeliest subject tonight. Probably Caldias, as a lot of people are focusing on him, th  ough I’m open to suggestions.

~~RESPONSE : this unit denies “anti-Town status”~~

*whirrr* *click!*

++ANALYSIS++

*whirrr* *click!*

~~>Potential scenarios:~~

~~>1) Hero unit is ScumBot = low % as VoteZap on this unit would reveal that too rapidly~~

~~>2) “small outside chance I’m an insane or paranoid cop” = high % and Vote Zap on this unit would rapidly reveal that. However, this unit challenges Hero unit’s use of “small” as in @The Jabbawookie ModGod unit’s started “experimental” scenario that % is actually not small or large but rather should be accurately catagorised as unknown.~~

~~>3) “small outside chance I’m an insane or paranoid cop” = a second CopBot claim would confirm this in this unit’s ocular processors

~~>4) “experimental” scenario = ? %. Consequently, all unit’s are advised to bear in CPU the limitations of pure logic/Mafia-math based solutions to the current crisis. Roles and powers and even the potential for ModGod events can alter standard operating parameters dramatically.~~

~~FURTHER OBSERVATIONS:~~

~~> if Hero unit scanned this unit N1 then Hero unit’s delay in hostile action (including covert, non-reveal based action) is...curious.~~

~~>other units are invited to consider this unit and @EbonHawk unit’s approach to this overall situation over the course of 2.5 day cycles and come to a ScumBot versus CIS loyalty read.~~

~~>this unit has a significant dislike and distrust of any unit that VotesZaps prematurely - particularly when there is a combination of: an abundance of operational time; no response submitted by units that stand accused (doubly so during recharge cycles!); potential for additional CopBot claims. See: (Un)Sportsmanship & (Sub)Optimal Non-ScumPlay Protocols.~~

~~POTENTIAL ACTIONS:~~

~~> This unit is willing to claim~~

~~> Additional CopBot claim = Potential for significant benefit to CIS (May require RepairBot use of energy shielding to protect non-paranoid/sane CopBot i.e. non-Hero CopBot). HOWEVER: all CIS unit’s should bear in CPU the potential for @The Jabbawookie false CopBot claim precedent and subsequent devastation~~

~~>VoteZap this unit = loss to CIS but probably easiest path to confirming an increased likelihood of CIS loyalty of @EbonHawk unit~~

~~VoteZap @EbonHawk unit = high probability of Ebon unit proving loss to CIS. Equivalent constituent effects (positive) for this unit’s CIS status.~~

~~VoteZap Hero unit = higher likelihood of loss to CIS (Paranoid/Insane CopBot) and lower likelihood of actual ScumBot hit (but possibility must be acknowledged)~~

++PROCESSING++

~~ 🚨 RECCOMENDATION: if no additional CopBot claim please proceed to VoteZap this unit~~ 🚨

21 minutes ago, Constantine Valdor said:

Ha never, you were lurking and following other people’s vote. got something to say now LP?

~~STATEMENT: NEGATIVE on “lurking”: processing responses takes significant time/effort (see above)~~

~~STATEMENT: NEGATIVE on “following”: this unit clearly stated on repeated occasions its willingness to be influenced (though not determined) by @LTD unit after % likelihood of that unit’s CIS loyalty was judged >50%. All VoteZap decisions by this unit in current scenario have been both trailed in advance and explained.~~

2 minutes ago, Lord Preyer said:

~~STATEMENT: NEGATIVE on “lurking”: processing responses takes significant time/effort (see above)~~

~~STATEMENT: NEGATIVE on “following”: this unit clearly stated on repeated occasions its willingness to be influenced (though not determined) by @LTD unit after % likelihood of that unit’s CIS loyalty was judged >50%. All VoteZap decisions by this unit in current scenario have been both trailed in advance and explained.~~

yea, a long post after you got scanned to have anti town role 😤

let scum kill hero on NK, that should in turn see if you and ebon are infected or not.

catching up now guys, was asleep after the doctors will have a read through and see what I'm thinking

Just now, Constantine Valdor said:

yea, a long post after you got scanned to have anti town role 😤

let scum kill hero on NK, that should in turn see if you and ebon are infected or not.

~~RESPONSE: negative on long post for any purpose other than aiding loyal CIS units. If units had emotions this unit might consider offense was intended and taken.~~

~~RESPONSE: negative on high % likelihood of ScumBot attack on @Herowannabe as they will know that this unit is either paranoid/insane (likely) or indeed one of them (unlikely)~~

——

~~WARNING: in event this unit is VoteZapped @EbonHawk will also likely be in high threat environment~~

On 11/24/2018 at 7:29 AM, Caldias said:

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On 11/24/2018 at 7:29 AM, Caldias said:

I trust you more now after that flop, but I do find it odd to have 2 protector roles in a game where we only seem to see one dead person a night.

can i ask why?

TLD A good portion of the train yesterday wanted to keep bertie alive mid way through the day, but I pushed the point (which is again what I found out when Pod said I wasn't scum hunting) and he followed me onto a wagon he didn't want to be on start of the day, not saying Pod in-particular but a good 2-3 people switched onto Bertie at the end and I'd bet one was scum covering their tracks trying to hide on the wagon...

Madaghmire, Caldias, Herowannabe where the last 3 votes, then Pod/CV. I'd wager a scum in there.

19 hours ago, Caldias said:

So right now the two that look the worst to me are clon and CV. CV got called out for lurking a lot and is now super present, which could be a pressured scum trying to alleviate suspicion.

Yep, I noticed both Pod/Cv to be particularly active today despite being pot shot at best so far in the game..

Please tell me someone confirmed Pod or Cal as town, or Cal if you're the cop you scanned something useful....

15 hours ago, clontroper5 said:

So we have @Caldias claiming to be a doc or something correct?

And @PodRacer is some protective role.

Anyone claim any sort of investigation role I missed?

Nope, Cal claims to know who the Doc is?!? So Cop/or Mason we guess

Pod claims Bodyguard.

11 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

catching up now guys, was asleep after the doctors will have a read through and see what I'm thinking

I think you will be... Intrigued

15 hours ago, PodRacer said:

I need to be more clear, are you claiming Doctor?

The way I see it town would create a perfect circle of protection each night with 2 protective roles watching each other, meaning if I calculate correctly, That town cant lose from this position, unless there is a stongman or similar who can bypass the protective roles?

Man wouldn't that be perfect, like how Jabba said the way I see it I must be the insane cop?...

We know Cal isn't the Doc, and while I'm not calling you a liar Pod I also have to agree with point about 2 protective roles seeming iffy.. the fact you yourself say we can't lose makes me think otherwise, bit boring IMO if town already won and we're just say here doccing it out? almost too easy

~~REQUEST: @clontroper5 can you please unvoteZap on this unit whilst this situation is explored. If you consider this unit corrupt after said analysis you can reZap. Thank you for your consideration.~~

Add clon to the list of extra chatty people today I need to be watching

13 hours ago, Constantine Valdor said:

nope, I don’t believe his softclaim at all

and out of the two, I would be more inclined to believe Pod, because his claim came after Bertie dropped the Bus driver which makes me think pod is legit in seeing it and being like well how the ****? I protected Mad...

I would like cals claim cleared up though, Cop or masonry bc it's important as a masonry would have 3-4 people now