On 11/22/2018 at 1:57 PM, Constantine Valdor said:

hello hello, I’m back alive again. So after reading d2 I’m leaning on Cal / Bertie / Clon axis (if there’re 3 scums) :

Clon rando vote someone d1 ( I think Matt)

Cal calls him out, vote Clon

Bertie calls Cal out, start a small train, but unvote at around L-4.

Now d2 Bertie shifts attention away from Cal.

I suspect some others, but no proof yet as of current state.

where is Mads though?

23 hours ago, Constantine Valdor said:

that’s not a mirror....

23 hours ago, Constantine Valdor said:

you called him out but didn’t vote cal. I was the second vote.

21 hours ago, Constantine Valdor said:

ah yes, enjoy the turkeys

17 hours ago, Constantine Valdor said:

mads, gnip are both good mafia coaches

16 hours ago, Constantine Valdor said:

remember ltd’s game when GNIP is saboteur? super sneaky infiltrator.

and mads give good tips in observer chat in last game.

16 hours ago, Constantine Valdor said:

well, this is my 4th game, and my role so far is vanilla, vanilla, cop (promotion woohoo) and vanilla (demoted from cops 😕 )

15 hours ago, Constantine Valdor said:

early suspicion is on Cal-Bertie-Clon

but after a couple of re-reads, the 3rd potential scum can be another seasoned player instead of Clon, possibly Mads or Gnip.

Idk where LP is, maybe all the US players are afk because of Thanksgiving.

Upon a reread its funny that this is all CVs post after my Vote and Case against him, he doesn't mention it ONCE! glosses straight over it...

YET: He has time to tell me about the golden pear, post about turkeys, make note of what good mafia coaches mads and gnips are, reclaimed again as vanilla town two times ONE day

then throws his shade on the top two wagons of Cal/Bertie and some on clon, but says that could actually be mads/gnips so nothing that wasn't already in the mix...

very very sus indeed 50/50 on him or bert RN

21 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

It seems from Pods re-read he now thinks Town on bertie (I disagree), but Pod clears him this is the point I want you guys remembering!

Now comes in Bertie, in the EXACT SAME WAY he voted me (just after I started looking to CV to push that read) almost like he waits for the player to focus elsewhere then he swoops in hiding the fact he's voting because Pod thought he was scummy? Makes a good CV point though, although even pod said he had room for error

Also the bit about POD and roles taken out of context, Pod was replying to Cal asking if he should role claim, Cal asked me and Mad, Pod also offered his town cents...

There was a 24 hour voting freeze that I had to respect. I already posted suspicions about both you and Pod during that period, but I couldn't vote even if I wanted to due to the freeze. So no, my vote was not in response to Pod unvoting, it was in respect to the freeze being lifted, and having some time to think after a good night's sleep.

Read page 14 again. Maybe you can read Pod's mind, but I can't. If Pod was replying to Caldias, that's not clear from how he wrote what he wrote. He was quoting you (not Caldias), and it was not immediately after Caldias had asked about role claims.

You even asked at the time why Pod was talking about claims. It really seems to come out of nowhere, and there's no mention of Caldias. It sounded like a warning to all town to me.

1 minute ago, Bertie Wooster said:

Read page 14 again. Maybe you can read Pod's mind, but I can't. If Pod was replying to Caldias, that's not clear from how he wrote what he wrote. He was quoting you (not Caldias), and it was not immediately after Caldias had asked about role claims.

roger roger

On 11/19/2018 at 10:58 PM, PodRacer said:

Ya, anyone wanting to get a claim out should do It at L-2

Hi Bertie

okay I see it, yes he is asking in the context that bertie should claim but I think this is a joke or at least that's the tone i'm reading

On 11/19/2018 at 11:01 PM, PodRacer said:

Im just saying if u put someone to L-1 for a claim you might not get it.

either foreshadowing to town as scum, or pointing out how in previous games L-1s have been turbo'd before a claim... I'm leaning the latter

On 11/19/2018 at 11:05 PM, PodRacer said:

Bertie had pinged me a couple of times today. not gonna Lie.

Half an hour isn't much time, and these pings are coming in so thick and fast I'm not likely to get a quick reread done.

Intent to shift to LTD if I must.

foreshadows his intent to switch to LTD, but like GNips I feel in the effort to avoid a no vote... this is the one i'm 50/50 on though of all the posts

On 11/19/2018 at 11:06 PM, PodRacer said:

ANYONE OUT THERE ECHOES MY SENTIMENTS ABOUT LTD nows a real good time to say so...

lot of people were echoing the statement, but to spilt hairs pod YOU were actually echoing the others like me/mad???

On 11/19/2018 at 11:08 PM, PodRacer said:

++Initiating Lubrication Sequence++

Dunno I can do it sober

hey LTD at least he has to be drunk to kill you.. more than I can say about me

over all the first half is fine, the latter half is a bit iffy IMO but not enough for me to vote pod now but watch him sure, i'm also sure he'll have something to say no doubt

On 11/19/2018 at 10:52 PM, clontroper5 said:

Is there a combination of factors that will result in a Hammer? With a target of 7 votes it appears unlikely hit the necessary threshold too hammer in time.

On 11/19/2018 at 11:00 PM, Lord Preyer said:

++ 🚩 🚩 ++

still a red flag LP?

4 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

On 11/19/2018 at 11:08 PM, PodRacer said:

hey LTD at least he has to be drunk to kill you.. more than I can say about me 

lol reading this back sounds like i find it really easy to kill LTD, I mean Pod doesn't have to be drunk to kill me hahahaha

Here are some early posts from games where I played town:

On 7/18/2018 at 2:17 PM, Caldias said:

The only thing Caribbean Ninjas are really stealth at is aging

On 7/19/2018 at 8:40 AM, Caldias said:

The results may astound you!

On 7/4/2018 at 9:47 PM, Caldias said:

All this snow is really making it hard to travel. Couldn't we just flamethrow all the snow or something? Well, AFTER we cross the lake, of course.

Also +1 to not claiming anything, esp Day One, unless someone slips #icepun #sorrynotsorry

On 7/4/2018 at 9:54 PM, Caldias said:

Hahaha, right! I didn't have time to read all the sauce was the real issue. But the kids went to sleep (mostly) so I was able to do a quick perusal. I'll be up and watching for a bit

Don't see much difference myself, Bertie, still joking around.

9 minutes ago, Caldias said:

Here are some early posts from games where I played town:

Don't see much difference myself, Bertie, still joking around.

Who was scum that game? I know Mad was. Who else?

Jabbawookie I believe

Ok. On initial read through, I’m looking more closely at Pod, Bertie and CV.

34 minutes ago, Caldias said:

Here are some early posts from games where I played town:

Don't see much difference myself, Bertie, still joking around.

I'm not as familiar with those games because that was before I started playing, but you make a fair point. Thank you for quoting this time, it helps me a lot to see quotes in order to analyze the game.

watch out there mad, mention pods name a 3rd time and he appears... oh whoops

1 hour ago, EbonHawk said:

watch out there mad, mention pods name a 3rd time and he appears... oh whoops

he was online when I posted this....

Maybe he doesn't like being stereotyped.

I have no real reads on anyone.

But I need to cast a vote before the day gets started.

## vote Constantine Valdor

11 hours ago, The Jabbawookie said:

Voting is now available. Day 2 ends at 5:00 PM PST.

@EbonHawk : Herowannabe (L-5)

@Constantine Valdor : EbonHawk (L-5)

@LTD :

@Madaghmire :

@Lord Preyer :

@Caldias : GNiPs (L-5)

@Bertie Wooster : Caldias, EbonHawk (L-4)

@GhostofNobodyInParticular :

@Herowannabe :

@PodRacer : Bertie Wooster (L-5)

@clontroper5 :

Does EbonHawk have an ability that allows him to vote for multiple people?

23 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

he was online when I posted this....

Keeping an eye on you!

18 hours ago, clontroper5 said:

So many posts...

Or not enough depends on perspective ...

2 hours ago, Madaghmire said:

Ok. On initial read through, I’m looking more closely at Pod, Bertie and CV.

Deep.

14 minutes ago, LTD said:

I have no real reads on anyone.

But I need to cast a vote before the day gets started.

## vote Constantine Valdor

I feel similarly, why do you suppose that is?

a well disguised scumteam, or something deeper?

21 minutes ago, PodRacer said:

Keeping an eye on you!

clearly I'm keeping an eye on you as well, as evidenced.

Took you two hours to come up with

23 minutes ago, PodRacer said:

Keeping an eye on you!

14 minutes ago, PodRacer said:

Or not enough depends on perspective ...

12 minutes ago, PodRacer said:

Deep.

11 minutes ago, PodRacer said:

I feel similarly, why do you suppose that is?

a well disguised scumteam, or something deeper?

14 minutes ago, PodRacer said:

Deep.

Still with the extended family.

29 minutes ago, LTD said:

I have no real reads on anyone.

But I need to cast a vote before the day gets started.

## vote Constantine Valdor

out of the reads you have, who's your top 3?

Because for someone being taken as confirmed town, when others have said otherwise, more than that is needed from a vote... lack of reads otherwise.

There is cases against CV. Bertie (from me/some others), Cal from others.. plenty to draw on, re why you find CV most likely of the 3.

Took me two hours to go to the supermarket and cook dinner.

Those very easy and towns posts took 5 minutes which is why it's such a p take the game isn't littered with good TvT debate.

maybe it's because anyone posting is met with a wall of soft sarcasm which deflates the posters..

so your new style seems less effective from my PoV

2 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

Still with the extended family.

Fair.