Gin and Juke

By Carnor Rex, in X-Wing Squad Lists

Thinking about taking this for a spin next. My previous versions have all had wedge with outmaneuver and torps. He hits like a effing madman with jan but is also the obvious first target so I swapped him for a more durable ship. Looking for any input but particularly a real good reason to run an ARC instead of luke since I'm trying to convince myself to buy one heh heh. If there is a good reason. Also the way I fly HWKs I tend to have opportunity to drop proximity mines after the joust so thats another thought.

Jan Ors — HWK-290 Light Freighter 42
Juke 4
Lando Calrissian 5
Shield Upgrade 6
Moldy Crow 12
Ship Total: 69

Luke Skywalker — T-65 X-Wing 62
Instinctive Aim 2
Proton Torpedoes 9
Servomotor S-foils 0
Ship Total: 73

Cassian Andor — UT-60D U-Wing 47
Juke 4
Tactical Officer 2
Jyn Erso 2
Pivot Wing 0
Ship Total: 55

Total- 197

Unfortunately, I don't think I'm able to tell ya that an ARC will be better than Luke. Norra with Magva is fantastic, but an obvious last target. An awful one, but obvious

I've only flew a 2e ARC once, but Norra Wexley with Intimidation, Zeb, and Veteran Tail Gunner was a lot of fun. Get into Range 1, block or ram, blow the everloving **** out of anything she's touching. I think I added like 9 Evades with her pilot ability that game. I feel like I want to put her on a table again.

I don't know that she's better than Luke, but she's pretty fun in her own right.

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One other reason to buy an ARC: if you're thinking of flying Republic ships starting in Wave 3, you'll be able to fly two ARCs in either faction with only 1 expansion. Both have the same dial and the same name, so like Rebel and Scum Y-Wings, you can use the "wrong faction" model.

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As to the list, I'm always a little nervous on Juke lists where the ships don't all have fully reliable access to Evade tokens. Heck, even on ships with the printed Evade action, Juke + Evade Action isn't really much better if at all than just focusing. It always just seems like it's going the long way around. It can get there in the end, but it takes more work and points. The best Juke ships (TIE Phantoms, TIE Defenders, Attack Shuttle Sabine Wren) all have ways of getting both Focus and Evade tokens without much effort.

That said, this list seems like it'll do the Juke thing fairly well. Luke and Moldy Crow are both really solid, and U-Wings seem underrated in general.

Edited by theBitterFig
6 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:

I've only flew a 2e ARC once, but Norra Wexley with Intimidation, Zeb, and Veteran Tail Gunner was a lot of fun. Get into Range 1, block or ram, blow the everloving **** out of anything she's touching. I think I added like 9 Evades with her pilot ability that game. I feel like I want to put her on a table again.

I don't know that she's better than Luke, but she's pretty fun in her own right.

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One other reason to buy an ARC: if you're thinking of flying Republic ships starting in Wave 3, you'll be able to fly two ARCs in either faction with only 1 expansion. Both have the same dial and the same name, so like Rebel and Scum Y-Wings, you can use the "wrong faction" model.

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As to the list, I'm always a little nervous on Juke lists where the ships don't all have fully reliable access to Evade tokens. Heck, even on ships with the printed Evade action, Juke + Evade Action isn't really much better if at all than just focusing. It always just seems like it's going the long way around. It can get there in the end, but it takes more work and points. The best Juke ships (TIE Phantoms, TIE Defenders, Attack Shuttle Sabine Wren) all have ways of getting both Focus and Evade tokens without much effort.

That said, this list seems like it'll do the Juke thing fairly well. Luke and Moldy Crow are both really solid, and U-Wings seem underrated in general.

I did that exact Norra ARC at Nordics, and it was both fun AND **** good. The lady only died once the entire tournament.

Just now, Green Knight said:

I did that exact Norra ARC at Nordics, and it was both fun AND **** good. The lady only died once the entire tournament.

Of course it's the exact one; I stole it from you!

Ya I think I need an arc. Especially if there's more pilots to be had soon. The model is just too cool.

The arc build I was considering is actually Norra- magva yarro, torps.

Until then I guess I'll try the current build, hopefully tomorrow.

If you want to see stunned looks on your opponents faces try this...

A/SF-01 B-wing - •Ten Numb - 69
•Ten Numb - Blue Five (50)
Juke (4)
Advanced Sensors (8)
Tractor Beam (3)
Shield Upgrade (4)

A/SF-01 B-wing - •Braylen Stramm - 69
•Braylen Stramm - Blade Leader (50)
Juke (4)
Advanced Sensors (8)
Tractor Beam (3)
Shield Upgrade (4)

UT-60D U-wing - •Cassian Andor - 60
•Cassian Andor - Raised by the Rebellion (47)
Trick Shot (1)
Advanced Sensors (8)
Tactical Officer (2)
•Jyn Erso (2)
Pivot Wing (Closed) (0)

Total: 198/200

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13 hours ago, Carnor Rex said:

Ya I think I need an arc. Especially if there's more pilots to be had soon. The model is just too cool.

The arc build I was considering is actually Norra- magva yarro, torps.

Until then I guess I'll try the current build, hopefully tomorrow.

To be clear, there likely won't be new *REBEL* pilots soon. Maybe not ever. There's the separate faction which will use it, and the model and dial can double-up.

Magva Torps Norra... Hrm. Init 5 Torpedo can probably get work done, if left alone.

8 hours ago, NeonWolf said:

If you want to see stunned looks on your opponents faces try this...

A/SF-01 B-wing - •Ten Numb - 69
•Ten Numb - Blue Five (50)
Juke (4)
Advanced Sensors (8)
Tractor Beam (3)
Shield Upgrade (4)

A/SF-01 B-wing - •Braylen Stramm - 69
•Braylen Stramm - Blade Leader (50)
Juke (4)
Advanced Sensors (8)
Tractor Beam (3)
Shield Upgrade (4)

UT-60D U-wing - •Cassian Andor - 60
•Cassian Andor - Raised by the Rebellion (47)
Trick Shot (1)
Advanced Sensors (8)
Tactical Officer (2)
•Jyn Erso (2)
Pivot Wing (Closed) (0)

Total: 198/200

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Juke does work best when you've got a source of dice modification... I wonder, swap Tractor Beams (and maybe Shield to Hull Upgrade) for Perceptive Copilot on Cassian instead of Tactical Officer? He'd be able to focus/evade, and the other two ships have AdvS to Evade before gaining stress from red moves. Depends on how much you use the Coordinate. I know I couldn't give up the White Coordinate on the Lambda shuttle.

On 11/18/2018 at 6:20 AM, theBitterFig said:

Magva Torps Norra... Hrm. Init 5 Torpedo can probably get work done, if left alone.

Magva Torp Norra sounds really nasty. Range 2-3, she gets a lock on you or higher init attacks her and she locks you. That is usually the spot you want to attack her. There is nothing good that can happen. Dont attack her and she just torps you from behind? A swarm tactics wingmate at I2 could be good for any scimitar bombers, sabines, blounts, etc. You could drop her init to always get magva triggered.

Only lower initiative causes a little headache, but thats worth it if you have a torp carrier at higher initiative. Definately gotta try something like this:

Norra Wexley (55)
Expert Handling (4)
Proton Torpedoes (9)
Magva Yarro (7)
“Chopper” (2)
Shield Upgrade (4)

Would need a big enough bid so enemy I5's move and shoot first. Shoot me or I recharge my torps!

Or cut down on Norra for something like:

Norra Wexley (55)
Expert Handling (4)
Proton Torpedoes (9)
Magva Yarro (7)

Kyle Katarn (38)
Swarm Tactics (3)
Moldy Crow (12)

Wedge Antilles (52)
Swarm Tactics (3)
Proton Torpedoes (9)
Servomotor S-foils (0)

Total: 192

Norra can get dropped to I3 with Katarn, if you get outbid by I5 list and dont want Norra shooting first, or all three can go I6 with Wedge if you win the bid and want to try to drop a I5 ship first, like the next round when Redline gets his second shot. Depends on the situation.

I flew the original list a few times. Worked well and moldy Jan is just an animal. One game she had 4 greens at one point, took fully modded prockets from Vader and cruised out the other side to end up finishing him with her turret after cranking Luke to 5 atts at r1. Risky but it worked. Luke was also great and cassian too although jyn mostly felt extraneous. I keep coming back to Leia as the second crew there. Anyway as cool as the U is I think I'm ready to move on.. probably to start testing arc builds. After that I'm gonna move into imps since I enjoy flying all factions and I've got some serious catching up to do!

Jyn and Juke plus focus group.

Rebels 200/200

Shara Bey (70)
ARC-170, Juke, Jyn Erso, R3 Astromech, Veteran Tail Gunner and Shield Upgrade

Garven Dreis (76)
ARC-170, Juke, Perceptive Copilot, R3 Astromech, Veteran Tail Gunner and Shield Upgrade

Eddrio Two Tubes (54)
T-65 X-Wing, R3 Astromech and Shield Upgrade