Your predictions of Wave IV

By Kehl_Aecea, in X-Wing

Just now, XPav said:

And I don't think this happen because while it ain't the Vong, it's still EU.

I imagine FFG got permission to re-release any existing EU ships they had, but I'm going to guess they were told "no more".

Yeah, I think any old EU ships we get are ones grandfathered in from 1.0 and they'll be hard pressed to release more unless they legit run out of new canon ships to pump out.

1 hour ago, Kehl_Aecea said:

Yeah, I think any old EU ships we get are ones grandfathered in from 1.0 and they'll be hard pressed to release more unless they legit run out of new canon ships to pump out.

And with Resistance, the Mandalorian, the Cassian Andor series, and the new movie(s), I think that's what we'll be getting (and I bet what sells better than any EU ships) for the foreseeable future once the "old" non-EU ships are mined out.

But there's a lot there to release!

33 minutes ago, XPav said:

And with Resistance, the Mandalorian, the Cassian Andor series, and the new movie(s), I think that's what we'll be getting (and I bet what sells better than any EU ships) for the foreseeable future once the "old" non-EU ships are mined out.

But there's a lot there to release!

Of course, Disney has shown us with Thrawn and others that they're willing to bring old EU into Canonicity when they feel it fits their story. So, we can still hope that Gunboats or E-Wings show up at some point or another down the line.

12 minutes ago, JJ48 said:

Of course, Disney has shown us with Thrawn and others that they're willing to bring old EU into Canonicity when they feel it fits their story. So, we can still hope that Gunboats or E-Wings show up at some point or another down the line.

E-Wings already have. One was in a private collection of someone who was making a deal with Poe in the Poe Dameron 23 comic. Apparently it was an early New Republic era design in Canon. Nothing on the Canon version's loadout or capabilities yet though.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/E-wing_escort_fighter

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That is literally the only picture of it.

7 minutes ago, XPav said:

That is literally the only picture of it.

I know.

The squadron packs are a great idea to bundle ships, however:

  • The Republic pack has 2x V19 and 1x Delta 7. If you only want one extra Delta-7, you are ok, you can buy the individual one. If you want more V-19s, you are more-or-less ok, as the pack contains 2x and I assume this is kind of a swarm ship. On the other hand...
  • The Separatist pack has 2x Vultures and 1x Belbullab-22. I was surprised to see it was the Vulture, it being the swarmer, the one that got also a stand-alone and not the Belbullab. If you want another Belbullab, as it is today, you would have to get a complete pack.

My point is, that when ships are only contained in a squadron pack, you might be forced to spend more than you need and probably end up getting more ships than you would like. At the same time however, it does offer the possibility of getting more ships at a lower price. I guess the issue is when you want to buy seconds.

I wonder if packs are a thing for Wave 4 or future waves in general. Perhaps it was meant only as an introductory way of releasing new faction. This is the same way Scum was released back in 1st edition with the Most Wanted pack.

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57 minutes ago, player3137305 said:

more ships than you would like.

Could you explain this phenomenon to me?

1 minute ago, SpiderMana said:

Could you explain this phenomenon to me?

Min-maxing based on current squadron meta?

Just now, Hiemfire said:

Min-maxing based on current squadron meta?

Just joking. I guess getting two more vultures for the price of one doesn't seem so bad to me as an extra cost for the Beetlejuice. I want two squadron packs just for the Vultures.

I get that it could be annoying, but I think they'll likely release single-pack V-19's and a standalone Bulbasaur sooner than later, and generally release future squadron packs near the release of those single packs, if at all.

12 minutes ago, SpiderMana said:

I get that it could be annoying, but I think they'll likely release single-pack V-19's and a standalone Bulbasaur sooner than later, and generally release future squadron packs near the release of those single packs, if at all.

I sure hope so. We don't need a repeat of the Most Wanted pack.

i suspect they picked the Vulture as the standalone and not the Belbullab because vultures are a swarm unit. if the only way to get them was the squadron pack, they knew people would be screaming bloody murder about it.

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5 minutes ago, mithril2098 said:

i suspect they picked the Vulture as the standalone and not the Belbullab because vultures are a swarm unit. if the only way to get them was the squadron pack, they knew people would be screaming bloody murder about it.

That’s fine logic, but the Vulture also being the standalone is the perceived issue.

In this case I think it’s more about paint jobs than anything else, to be honest.

On 11/15/2018 at 3:57 AM, Da_Brown_Bomber said:

have my fingers crossed for Hwk-290. need me that moldy crow title for Palob.

What if I told you that the Moldy Crow title was purposefully left out because scum Hwks were getting their own exclusive title in the future?

thats a theory I have atm about why it wasn’t in the scum conversion kit.

LAAT/i Gunship. Because it's my love. Republic needs a large ship anyway that maintains the clone army/Jedi theme and I think that fits. I'd like to have a wave that brought the N-1 and a Silver Nubian design simultaneously which could still happen realistically. It could be a two Rep, two Sep, two reprint deal for awhile.

So Tri-fighter and Geonosian Starfighter, Hyena Bomber, Fanshape fighter, anything really. Expecting news at Adepticon.

20 hours ago, mithril2098 said:

i suspect they picked the Vulture as the standalone and not the Belbullab because vultures are a swarm unit. if the only way to get them was the squadron pack, they knew people would be screaming bloody murder about it.

I don't think they would, the squadron pack gives you the Beetlejuice for free as it costs the same as 2x individual Vultures, and chances are you would want 2x Vultures being it a swarmer. It's wanting an extra Beetlejuice that would force you to fork $40 instead of $20.

It's the same as someone wanting a 1.0 Y-Wing without needing the Z-95s. Small issue I reckon but there nonetheless.

20 hours ago, SpiderMana said:

In this case I think it’s more about paint jobs than anything else, to be honest.

This is probably it, although the Belbullab could also have gotten a second paintjob...

41 minutes ago, FlyingAnchors said:

What if I told you that the Moldy Crow title was purposefully left out because scum Hwks were getting their own exclusive title in the future?

thats a theory I have atm about why it wasn’t in the scum conversion kit.

as in its own alt art version? i would be all over that. many here think FFG just want u to buy another conversion kit. impossible to focus on just one faction when a 'must own' card like MC is not included in both conversion kits. if u play the Hwk-290, u need that card. pure and simple. FFG is a business and it needs to make money. i get it. im just unwilling to buy an entire kit to get that one card. waiting for them to become a bit more common in my local area and can then pick one up from rebel players that have an extra one. yes u can proxy and yes u can by online. im going to patiently wait till they become easier to get. its part of the reason i havent converted any of my ships from 1.0. i cant justify it just yet based on how little i play.

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11 minutes ago, Da_Brown_Bomber said:

as in its own alt art version? i would be all over that. many here think FFG just want u to buy another conversion kit. impossible to focus on just one faction when a 'must own' card like MC is not included in both conversion kits. if u play the Hwk-290, u need that card. pure and simple. FFG is a business and it needs to make money. i get it. im just unwilling to buy an entire kit to get that one card. waiting for them to become a bit more common in my local area and can then pick one up from rebel players that have an extra one. yes u can proxy and yes u can by online. im going to patiently wait till they become easier to get. its part of the reason i havent converted any of my ships from 1.0. i cant justify it just yet based on how little i play.

I think they meant that they believe Scum will be getting a different title, not just an alt art of Moldy Crow.

I’m in the one each camp.

  • A-Wing
  • TIE Interceptor
  • Is it too soon after the 2nd edition Firespray for us to get a repaint in Jango’s colours? If so, probably something else from The Clone Wars.
  • TIE Silencer
  • Resistence Bomber
  • Republic Y-Wing
  • Separatists is tricky, they all blur into one for me. Dooku’s little ship maybe?

Hoping for A and B wings. Maybe along with Tie Bombers and Interceptors and other stuff. Wouldn't mind more new Clone Wars stuff either.

3 hours ago, Hiemfire said:

I think they meant that they believe Scum will be getting a different title, not just an alt art of Moldy Crow.

That would be cool but the odds of it are remote. happy with a rerelease of the Hwk-290 expansion. it seems FFGS will give the clone wars factions priority. rebels do need a boost but i think theyre more likely to go for A, B and Y wings before something like the hwk.

2 minutes ago, Da_Brown_Bomber said:

That would be cool but the odds of it are remote. happy with a rerelease of the Hwk-290 expansion. it seems FFGS will give the clone wars factions priority. rebels do need a boost but i think theyre more likely to go for A, B and Y wings before something like the hwk.

2 down on first time single pack IN FACTION releases ('Spray and Z-95), 2 to go (HWK and Y-Wing)... Scum HWK or Scum Y-Wing either Wave 4 or 5.

4 hours ago, Da_Brown_Bomber said:

as in its own alt art version? i would be all over that. many here think FFG just want u to buy another conversion kit. impossible to focus on just one faction when a 'must own' card like MC is not included in both conversion kits. if u play the Hwk-290, u need that card. pure and simple. FFG is a business and it needs to make money. i get it. im just unwilling to buy an entire kit to get that one card. waiting for them to become a bit more common in my local area and can then pick one up from rebel players that have an extra one. yes u can proxy and yes u can by online. im going to patiently wait till they become easier to get. its part of the reason i havent converted any of my ships from 1.0. i cant justify it just yet based on how little i play.

No, alt art was not what I meant. FFG should totally do a moldy crow alt art as the next store kit, but I meant something like a whole new scum only Hwk-290 title. It should still give the 3 atk forward primary like the moldy crow, but work different in nature, something to fit with the scum hwks theme, maybe something like “borrowing” an action on an opponents action bar from range 0-2.

On 11/16/2018 at 4:11 PM, JJ48 said:

Of course, Disney has shown us with Thrawn and others that they're willing to bring old EU into Canonicity when they feel it fits their story. So, we can still hope that Gunboats or E-Wings show up at some point or another down the line.


Well, the E-Wing has appeared in the Poe comics, though it's basically just set dressing and isn't specifically referenced as an "E-Wing." Similarly, the HWK-290 was fairly prominent in the Kanan comic series. The Rebels cartoon has brought back the YT-2400, along with the TIE Defender, Interdictor, Qasar, and Dreadnaught (though now referred to as the Imperial Support Vessel). This means the entire Rebel line-up is effectively "canon," with the lone exception of the K-Wing.

Imperials fare slightly worse, with the TIE Phantom, TIE Punisher, TIE Aggressor, and Decimator not yet being "canonized" in the Disney-era.

As far as I know, Scum are pretty bad off as far as canon ships. I believe that all of the following ships have yet to have a canonical appearance: Jumpmaster, G1-A, Aggressor, Kimogila, Scyk, Khiraxz, and Star Viper.

1 minute ago, FlyingAnchors said:

No, alt art was not what I meant. FFG should totally do a moldy crow alt art as the next store kit, but I meant something like a whole new scum only Hwk-290 title. It should still give the 3 atk forward primary like the moldy crow, but work different in nature, something to fit with the scum hwks theme, maybe something like “borrowing” an action on an opponents action bar from range 0-2.

gotchya. that would be cool. storing focus is pretty handy. maybe give it a gunner slot or 0-0-0 crew ability but range 0-2?