I'm curious Legion community- what support and heavy options would you like to see for the CIS in legion? I've come up with a good number from the movies/shows.

For support:

-Droideka squad

-STAP squad

-Crab droid

-Dwarf Spider Droid

For Heavy:

-Armored Assault Tank

-Spider droid

-Hailfire Droid

-Corporate Alliance Tank Droid

Anything else you would include?

I'm expecting to see destroyers as support and possibly STAPs in that same slot.

I expect the heavy battle droids to be just another troop type While the commando droids and droids such as Grevious' bodyguards would be special forces. I don't really know enough beyond the movies to expect what the other unit choices might be. There will be plenty of vehicle options, that's for sure.

Perhaps the AAT hover tank will still make an appearance.

A BX-series commando droid squad should definitely be included as a Special Forces trooper unit. They end up being pretty formidable in the Clone Wars show, unlike a lot of other battle droids. I think STAPs are an obvious choice as they are very similar to speeder bikes. Super Battle Droids should be good as a Corps unit.

I think the droidekas will be a very unique addition for the Separatists. They could be treated as Support Special Forces units similar to Royal Guards or Wookies or could even be emplacement troopers like the E-WEB with a very different movement pattern, like maybe Speed 2, but moving takes 2 actions to account for folding up and unfolding, but they can't really move after unfolding, just pivot. The more I type it out, the more I like the idea of treating them as Support Emplacement Troopers. Might be onto something. It would compete some with the Dwarf Spider Droid that way, I suppose, but droidekas are far more recognizable.

I like the AAT for their heavy. It's a good size and easily recognizable.

14 minutes ago, Praetorate of the Empire said:

I like the AAT for their heavy. It's a good size and easily recognizable.

I'd love to see the AAT, but it might be too big for the bases. The canon length I can find for the AAT is 9.19 meters, and the AT-ST is listed as 9.09 meters tall. So without a sliding scale, I don't think it will fit on the base. The Dwarf Spider Droid should fit perfectly on the base sizes provided, and I could see it being categorized as a "Heavy."

my vote goes to dwarf spider or crab droid

1 hour ago, Praetorate of the Empire said:

.I think the droidekas will be a very unique addition for the Separatists. They could be treated as Support units similar to Royal Guards or Wookies or could even be emplacement troopers like the E-WEB with a very different movement pattern, like maybe Speed 2, but moving takes 2 actions to account for folding up and unfolding, but they can't really move after unfolding, just pivot. The more I type it out, the more I like the idea of treating them as Support Emplacement Troopers. Might be onto something. It would compete some with the Dwarf Spider Droid that way, I suppose, but droidekas are far more recognizable.

Royal Guards and Wookiees are Special Forces.

2 minutes ago, arnoldrew said:

Royal Guards and Wookiees are Special Forces.

Whoops, corrected.

I'll second a Crab Droid as like a Heavy, that's probably a good analog between like the AT-ST and T-47, and I have fond memories of the RotS game (Grapple droids and Air droids an eventual must). Magna-guards and BX-Commandos are an obvious Special Forces slot. I like the idea of Droidekas as Emplacement Troopers actually, they can move fast when not attacking, but if they are shooting and shielding, they move much slower.

9 hours ago, Caimheul1313 said:

The Dwarf Spider Droid should fit perfectly on the base sizes provided, and I could see it being categorized as a "Heavy."

I too think the AAT might be a bit big for this game, but perhaps on a sliding scale it could work.

I believe the dwarf spider droid is actually only a bit bigger than a droideka, so perhaps the dwarf spider would fit on an AT-RT size base as a support unit.

4 hours ago, UnitOmega said:

I'll second a Crab Droid as like a Heavy, that's probably a good analog between like the AT-ST and T-47, and I have fond memories of the RotS game (Grapple droids and Air droids an eventual must). Magna-guards and BX-Commandos are an obvious Special Forces slot. I like the idea of Droidekas as Emplacement Troopers actually, they can move fast when not attacking, but if they are shooting and shielding, they move much slower.

I forgot in the Clone Wars Tv show the crab droids were actually depicted as a pretty big droid, compared to the RoTS on Utapau where it was only a bit bigger than a trooper. This could also be a support option. I would love to see a tank droid or hail fire as the heavy options.

As usual, i think the worst problem with this faction will be commanders...

There's plenty of rebel, imperial and republic leaders to choose from, including generics like the ones we will see in specialists boxes.

But CIS??

Dooku...

Ventress...

Grievious...

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Generic sergeant droid number one, generic sergeant droid number two... XD

Not excited about this aspect of the CIS army

EDIT: And Ventress may fit better an operative slot!

12 minutes ago, Tubb said:

As usual, i think the worst problem with this faction will be commanders...

There's plenty of rebel, imperial and republic leaders to choose from, including generics like the ones we will see in specialists boxes.

But CIS??

Dooku...

Ventress...

Grievious...

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Generic sergeant droid number one, generic sergeant droid number two... XD

Not excited about this aspect of the CIS army

EDIT: And Ventress may fit better an operative slot!

Grievious, Dooku, Kalani, Nute Gunray, Poggle the lesser would all be acceptable choices for the commander slot, the last two given that Palpatine showed up as a commander for the Empire. I agree that Ventress and Maul would probably be operatives.

21 hours ago, Caimheul1313 said:

I'd love to see the AAT, but it might be too big for the bases. The canon length I can find for the AAT is 9.19 meters, and the AT-ST is listed as 9.09 meters tall. So without a sliding scale, I don't think it will fit on the base. The Dwarf Spider Droid should fit perfectly on the base sizes provided, and I could see it being categorized as a "Heavy."

As a hover tank, it could be given some latitude in its base overhang if mounted on a tall enough stand.

On 11/15/2018 at 10:32 AM, aniron said:

As a hover tank, it could be given some latitude in its base overhang if mounted on a tall enough stand.

It should be hovering less than the T-47, and it will be hanging over a LOT. That will also cause issues with movement, since whether or not a model fits through a gap is based on the base, not the model.

As far as I know, the AT-ST is 18 cm (edit: tall), but the largest base is 10 cm (100 mm), putting the in scale AAT at almost double the size of the base.

If you look at the Clone Wars series, there are a lot more CIS commanders to be used. I imagine a tactical droid will be their generic commander specialist (when FFG gets around to Clone Wars specialists).

I think the Super Battle Droid would be a heavy option for a regular squad of droids instead of support or special forces. (You often see Super Battle Droids working in concert with regular battle droids).

I agree the AAT could be hard to do without scaling down. While an argument can be made why scaling down the T-47 makes sense (it is up in the air and not really down on the ground with other units), that argument does not work for the AAT.

So a Crab Droid is likely a good choice for a heavy unit for CIS. A full sized Spider Droid likely has the same problems the AAT does, it is way too wide to fit on a base. I am not sure a Dwarf Spider Droid is truly a "heavy" unit, as they are not that much more armored than standard droids. With their shields, there is a better argument to make Droidekas a heavy.

3 hours ago, Thevshi said:

While an argument can be made why scaling down the T-47 makes sense (it is up in the air and not really down on the ground with other units), that argument does not work for the AAT.

The T-47 isn't scaled down though, they really are that size in canon. 5.3 meters long. So far all vehicles have been to scale.

https://goo.gl/images/mjP1Qk

19 hours ago, jcmonson said:

Grievious, Dooku, Kalani, Nute Gunray, Poggle the lesser would all be acceptable choices for the commander slot, the last two given that Palpatine showed up as a commander for the Empire. I agree that Ventress and Maul would probably be operatives.

Because I apparently have nothing better to do with my time while waiting for the Packers game...

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Sidious and yes, I would definitely include him as a commander possibility

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dooku

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Grievous

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Asajj_Ventress Since she commanded a fair number of troops at times I would maker her a commander

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Whorm_Loathsom

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wat_Tambor

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Poggle_the_Lesser

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Pre_Vizsla

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Osi_Sobeck

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/T-series_tactical_droid Generic commander

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Riff_Tamson I know he’s a shark

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kalani_(super_tactical_droid)

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Trench

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kraken

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Nute_Gunray

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lok_Durd

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mar_Tuuk

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Savage_Opress Operative?

14 hours ago, Caimheul1313 said:

It should be hovering less than the T-47, and it will be hanging over a LOT. That will also cause issues with movement, since whether or not a model fits through a gap is based on the base, not the model.

As far as I know, the AT-ST is 18 cm, but the largest base is 10 cm (100 mm), putting the in scale AAT at almost double the size of the base.

Well, they'll have to make it a larger base then, won't they? ?

9 hours ago, Caimheul1313 said:

The T-47 isn't scaled down though, they really are that size in canon. 5.3 meters long. So far all vehicles have been to scale.

https://goo.gl/images/mjP1Qk

I am not so sure, looking at those images and the T-47 model, the Legion model does not look like it would properly fit two people at the scale the infantry minis are in. It is not scaled down a lot, but it looks like it is a little bit.

2 hours ago, Thevshi said:

I am not so sure, looking at those images and the T-47 model, the Legion model does not look like it would properly fit two people at the scale the infantry minis are in. It is not scaled down a lot, but it looks like it is a little bit.

Reminder that the T-47 pilots are lying almost horizontal to the ground while in the vehicle.

6 hours ago, Indy_com said:

Reminder that the T-47 pilots are lying almost horizontal to the ground while in the vehicle.

The images Caim linked to do not show the pilots lying that flat. They are pretty much sitting up. The main issue I see with the model is the cockpit is too narrow compared to miniatures of troops, while the images linked above show the cockpit is quite wide compared to a person.

7 hours ago, aniron said:

Well, they'll have to make it a larger base then, won't they? ?

While possible, I think it is unlikely. There are other vehicles that would fit on the pre-existing bases, especially given the names FFG applied to the existing bases (small, medium, large, huge). Also, the base would be twice the diameter of the "huge" base.

1 hour ago, Thevshi said:

The images Caim linked to do not show the pilots lying that flat. They are pretty much sitting up. The main issue I see with the model is the cockpit is too narrow compared to miniatures of troops, while the images linked above show the cockpit is quite wide compared to a person.

They are reclined. Here's a few more reference photos from a different thread:

For the CIS i will see:

Support: Droideka squad

Heavy: Armoured Assault Tank

I have a hard time seeing a squad of destroyer droids. More than likely we'll see a unit of 1.

I could see them as a pair as well, but no more.

I would like to see the Vulture droid in walking mode as a heavy, possibly paired with a weapons upgrade that allows it to deploy a support unit of buzz droids. I imagine you would have to keep the unit of buzz droids off the table until they were shot. The weapons card could read something like, "Deploy 1 unit of buzz droids to this card instead of the deployment area. When making an attack place the buzz droids from this card in melee for a crit, in range 1 for a hit, or in range 2 for a miss."

On 11/14/2018 at 3:20 PM, Jman444 said:

Anything else you would include?

What is with this droid?

LR-57 combat droid: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/LR-57_combat_droid

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