1 hour ago, Toph said:

Because a token stacking defender is easily half your list for a single gun that moves fairly predictably

Gib 80 point token stacking A-Wing pls.

1 hour ago, Wiredin said:

so, raise price of A-wings by 10, give me free evades

Something like this is kind of interesting, heck it could be a straight copy of the Defender ship ability. The problem is the A-wings are already released and trying to retrofit something like it on to them is going to frustrate people.

Maybe a mod that gives a white evade linked off a boost. Would need to be expensive, to keep it balanced. And yes A-wings would need a mod slot. But then I think they should get a mod slot anyways, and there should be a mod to help get a target lock at the coat of focus to tackle the A-wing's issues from another direction.

6 minutes ago, GeneralVryth said:

Something like this is kind of interesting, heck it could be a straight copy of the Defender ship ability. The problem is the A-wings are already released and trying to retrofit something like it on to them is going to frustrate people.

Maybe a mod that gives a white evade linked off a boost. Would need to be expensive, to keep it balanced. And yes A-wings would need a mod slot. But then I think they should get a mod slot anyways, and there should be a mod to help get a target lock at the coat of focus to tackle the A-wing's issues from another direction.

Technically, it could be a configuration.

2 minutes ago, CaptainIxidor said:

Technically, it could be a configuration.

Yeah, but then how do you distribute it? Put multiple in a the A-wing re-release? If people had to buy 1 expansion for each copy they would be pissed. And it also falls in to the 1.0 fix issue.

That's why I would go the mod route, Interceptors could benefit from something similar. Also, most low init ordinance carriers have similar issues with the initial lock.

thats what I was saying earlier make it a talent card, A-wing only. When you perform a blue maneuver perform evade action. 5-10 points. done

4 minutes ago, Wiredin said:

thats what I was saying earlier make it a talent card, A-wing only. When you perform a blue maneuver perform evade action. 5-10 points. done

Why does it need to be A-wing only? That's what creates the distribution problem. It can be designed in such a way it benefits the A-wing more than other ships without locking it to it, while also allowing other ships with issues in that niche to get a boost as well.

12 minutes ago, GeneralVryth said:

Why does it need to be A-wing only? That's what creates the distribution problem. It can be designed in such a way it benefits the A-wing more than other ships without locking it to it, while also allowing other ships with issues in that niche to get a boost as well.

E-wings with R4 astromech is why. but then again... that just takes it right into defender territory and maybe worth it's points.

3 minutes ago, Wiredin said:

E-wings with R4 astromech is why. but then again... that just takes it right into defender territory and maybe worth it's points.

Bingo. The R4 only applies to your specific suggestion anyway. What we are really talking about is a higher end defensive upgrade, whether it's a talent or mod. In essence the defensive equivalent to outmaneuver. A reduced price for high agi stealth device could also help for a similar reason.

Ultimately there are lots of ways to skin this cat (heck maybe simple point adjustments will be enough). I am just advocating for an elegant fix, which means no frustrating distribution model asnd something that slots in nicely as competitive option instead of a must have option.

Tallie was the most upsetting star wars character death.

prove me wrong.

1 hour ago, Wiredin said:

Tallie was the most upsetting star wars character death.

prove me wrong.

I'll just assume he died...

Is Heroic faction-specific? If not, pretty sure that's going on every single ship I fly.

1 minute ago, JJ48 said:

Is Heroic faction-specific? If not, pretty sure that's going on every single ship I fly.

It is the Resistance only talent like how the FO has Fanatical, Rebels Selfless, Scum Fearless, and Imperials Merciless.

Just now, Animewarsdude said:

It is the Resistance only talent like how the FO has Fanatical, Rebels Selfless, Scum Fearless, and Imperials Merciless.

Ah, I see. Each faction getting a unique talent is cool, but it's a little disappointing at the same time. Heroic is exactly what my lists need.

2 minutes ago, JJ48 said:

Ah, I see. Each faction getting a unique talent is cool, but it's a little disappointing at the same time. Heroic is exactly what my lists need.

Yea, but aside from cost Heroic and Fanatical might see some play. I've only seen Fangs using Fearless and have only seen one Punisher and Jonus list use Merciless.

3 minutes ago, Animewarsdude said:

Yea, but aside from cost Heroic and Fanatical might see some play. I've only seen Fangs using Fearless and have only seen one Punisher and Jonus list use Merciless.

that's because we need a points rebalancing to get more ships on the table in general

I've had a **** of a time playing Fearless Sabine Shadowcaster with Mux, murdering or rolling even the highest initiative pilots onto rocks before they could fire

Problem is she costs near as much as Boba and that's just unacceptable

2 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

that's because we need a points rebalancing to get more ships on the table in general

I've had a **** of a time playing Fearless Sabine Shadowcaster with Mux, murdering or rolling even the highest initiative pilots onto rocks before they could fire

Problem is she costs near as much as Boba and that's just unacceptable

Maybe she's not too expensive, but rather Boba's too cheap.

Then again, I'm also of the opinion that having one Scum ship on the table is too many, so it's probably just as well that the costs aren't my call.

Heroic just makes your full blank outs feel less bad. I'll use them on A-wings, but never on an X-wing or the like.

Selfless B-Wings are pretty annoying tho...

21 minutes ago, Animewarsdude said:

Yea, but aside from cost Heroic and Fanatical might see some play. I've only seen (1) Fangs using Fearless and have only seen one Punisher and Jonus list use (2) Merciless .

13 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

that's because we need a points rebalancing to get more ships on the table in general

I've had a **** of a time playing (1) Fearless Sabine Shadowcaster with Mux, murdering or rolling even the highest initiative pilots onto rocks before they could fire

Problem is she costs near as much as Boba and that's just unacceptable

(1) Mandalorians being the only ones making use of the signature Scum Mandalorian Talent... Not surprised. Every friggin one gets a defensive bonus when close to the enemy. Try it on something that doesn't get free Evade, Re-rolls or extra focus tokens for being nose to nose with someone shooting at them... "Fearless" is an insult. ?

(2) Ruthless

2 minutes ago, Hiemfire said:

(1) Mandalorians being the only ones making use of the signature Scum Mandalorian Talent... Not surprised. Every friggin one gets a defensive bonus when close to the enemy. Try it on something that doesn't get free Evade, Re-rolls or extra focus tokens for being nose to nose with someone shooting at them... "Fearless" is an insult. ?

(2) Ruthless

1) Would have actually been neat if FFG made 'subfaction' talents for Scum that incentivized certain ships and playstyles like Mandalorian, Black Sun, Hutt Cartel, etc.

2) Shows how rarely I've seen it, haha

1 hour ago, Animewarsdude said:

It is the Resistance only talent like how the FO has Fanatical, Rebels Selfless, Scum Fearless, and Imperials Merciless.

Maybe Rebublic Loyal and Seperatist Devious?

1 hour ago, ficklegreendice said:

that's because we need a points rebalancing to get more ships on the table in general

I've had a **** of a time playing Fearless Sabine Shadowcaster with Mux, murdering or rolling even the highest initiative pilots onto rocks before they could fire

Problem is she costs near as much as Boba and that's just unacceptable

thats a super cool idea tho.... I'm going to have to try Sabine Boba now... with stealth device Sabine can have a minimum of 4 green dice if target is in the turret.... thats so funny

3 minutes ago, Wiredin said:

thats a super cool idea tho.... I'm going to have to try Sabine Boba now... with stealth device Sabine can have a minimum of 4 green dice if target is in the turret.... thats so funny

Shadowcaster title is a bit janky, but Perceptive Copilot overcharges her pilot skill. Fearless Sabine with Perceptive Copilot and Stealth Device is 87 pts.

1 hour ago, Wiredin said:

Heroic just makes your full blank outs feel less bad. I'll use them on A-wings, but never on an X-wing or the like.

Selfless B-Wings are pretty annoying tho...

Yeah, but you don't have my dice. Most ships I fly end up blanking completely at least half the time I roll for them.

1 hour ago, JJ48 said:

Yeah, but you don't have my dice. Most ships I fly end up blanking completely at least half the time I roll for them.

I have a feeling my friend will be borrowing my Resistance ships to try out that card...

Granted, when he has mods he doesn’t tend to need them. And when he promised he’d finally watch the rest of Clone Wars and Rebels if his dice rolled crits, he started to get one natural crit with every roll, usually accompanied by blanks/focus. ?

2 hours ago, JJ48 said:

Yeah, but you don't have my dice. Most ships I fly end up blanking completely at least half the time I roll for them.

Sounds like my best friend. Even a pile of melted dice doesn't seem to stave that off... Don't ask.