8 hours ago, Gallanteer said:

Had this tonight with Blinded Pilot.

We didn't allow the reroll. Why?

Golden rule - the word 'cannot' is absolute and cannot be overidden by other card effects.

Blinded pilot uses the word cannot as does Magva. Those rules are therefore absolute and Han's text cannot override them.

Add to that, that the damage deck is an outside influence to your squad build and it should therefore take priority.

Add to that the text from the FAQ uses the text 'ineligible to be rerolled or modified' shows that Han's reroll IS a modification to the dice that blinded pilot counters with the word 'cannot'.

In the end its pretty straight forward and just remember the golden rules.

It's straight forward if you assume Han is a reroll and conclude Magva is not an effect that interacts with it. This part is not entirely clear. If Magva is an effect which cares about the fact it's a reroll then Han overrides this, explicitly from his card. On an initial reading that would appear to be how it works, Han's ability is explicitly not a reroll, so Magva's ability that interacts with rerolls would obviously have no effect here. But then you go back to the FAQ and you're left wondering what could possibly make a dice ineligible for Han. My only conclusion is that Han's ability is not a reroll but IS dice modification. So Han Solo cannot reroll dice for Blinded Pilot, as it;s dice modification, but he can reroll all the dice against Magva because it's not a reroll.

On 11/15/2018 at 9:06 AM, AramoroA said:

It's straight forward if you assume Han is a reroll and conclude Magva is not an effect that interacts with it. This part is not entirely clear. If Magva is an effect which cares about the fact it's a reroll then Han overrides this, explicitly from his card. On an initial reading that would appear to be how it works, Han's ability is explicitly not a reroll, so Magva's ability that interacts with rerolls would obviously have no effect here. But then you go back to the FAQ and you're left wondering what could possibly make a dice ineligible for Han. My only conclusion is that Han's ability is not a reroll but IS dice modification. So Han Solo cannot reroll dice for Blinded Pilot, as it;s dice modification, but he can reroll all the dice against Magva because it's not a reroll.

To that end if Han's ability is 'not a reroll'......

In an attack I could roll 3 reds that all come up blank. I use Han's ability which gets me 2 hits and a blank. I could then use a Target Lock to reroll the blank (a second reroll but not classed as one because of Han's ability)?

Yes, that's what Han's ability is supposed to do.

Along with being able to reroll non-attack/defence dice like devices and rocks.

The problem is how it interacts with stuff that normally blocks modification, as it's not clear whether it's intended to get around those restrictions or not.

I feel like the way to bypass this issue would have been to word the ability as follows.

"After you roll dice, if you are at range 0-1 of an obstacle you may re-roll all of your dice. After this, you may re-roll your dice again for the purposes of other effects."

It's a tiny wording change, but I think it covers all bases. You could even throw a "following the normal rules for modifying dice" on the end if you wanted to make it even clearer. It would do effectively the same thing (a free re-roll) only now it would still count as a re-roll, and so would be blocked by things like Magva.

That's obviously a slight nerf if your interpretation of the current rules is that it's not a re-roll but is a modification, and that Magva currently doesn't affect him, but it's at least clear what works and what doesn't.

There would have been a bunch of ways to write it unambiguously.

Which is kind of irrelevant because they were not used.