I've been out of the loop for a couple of months, time to upgrade what I have for Imps. I am still yet to actually play a game haha.
I have 2 starters, Veers, AT-ST.
What should the next 2 purchases I make for Imps be? 1x Snowies and 1x scouts? Is boba as useful as say Veers?
TIA
Whats next for me?
Boba for sure
Then I’d go scouts
Boba with his command cards are great. He would be a my number 3 pick with what you currently have. Go with a unit of scouts and a unit of snows. The snow suppliment your primary objective grabbimg and provides an effective activation flamethrowers are great. The scouts provides a squad and a strike team. Use the strike team as a sniper and keep them out of range of enemies. The 4 man squad is a little pricier but courage 2 and 2 black dice on attack are nice.
Boba does nothing to help in a atst veers list. He is super effective in a trooper heavy list.
Edited by The captn
If you want some heavier, trooper based firepower, grab an E-WEB for your Support unit.
On 11/4/2018 at 10:13 AM, Supertimland said:I've been out of the loop for a couple of months, time to upgrade what I have for Imps. I am still yet to actually play a game haha.
I have 2 starters, Veers, AT-ST.
What should the next 2 purchases I make for Imps be? 1x Snowies and 1x scouts? Is boba as useful as say Veers?
TIA
I would say snowies since they’re amazing - ive seen flamethrower squads one-shot units in heavy cover (partly due to good rolls). But since you have 2 core sets I would say Boba and Scouts. After that probably more speeders and another set of scouts.
On 11/4/2018 at 1:13 AM, Supertimland said:I've been out of the loop for a couple of months, time to upgrade what I have for Imps. I am still yet to actually play a game haha.
I have 2 starters, Veers, AT-ST.
What should the next 2 purchases I make for Imps be? 1x Snowies and 1x scouts? Is boba as useful as say Veers?
TIA
Probably Scouts and Snows. Boba's different than Veers entirely. Think of him as a substitute for your AT-ST.
I vote for Boba and 2 snowtroopers.
Boba is good and can replace your ATST as a center piece, good offense, defense, and bounty for close games.
2 Snowtroopers for a total of 6 core and they are great to complement Vader, and the flamer is nasty.
Not to derail the thread, but what do you use Boba for? Double suppression? He can hit 2 units but with black dice, i can't see him doing tons of damage. 37% chance of rolling a blank on a black die, he should average a hit most of the time. Is it his cards? The flamer one looks pretty nasty. I don't know if you want him in range one all that often or long though
Edited by buckero01 hour ago, buckero0 said:Not to derail the thread, but what do you use Boba for? Double suppression? He can hit 2 units but with black dice, i can't see him doing tons of damage. 37% chance of rolling a blank on a black die, he should average a hit most of the time. Is it his cards? The flamer one looks pretty nasty. I don't know if you want him in range one all that often or long though
His cards are all good.
He can deal out a lot of punishment. Try to focus fire (Arsenal 2) on the same mini.
He removes all cover for whatever he shoots at.
Also he has pierce.
Between sharpshooter 2 and pierce 1 if you can get two weapons to bear on the same target it’s a bad day for them.
2 hours ago, ScummyRebel said:His cards are all good.
He can deal out a lot of punishment. Try to focus fire (Arsenal 2) on the same mini.
He removes all cover for whatever he shoots at.
Also he has pierce.
Between sharpshooter 2 and pierce 1 if you can get two weapons to bear on the same target it’s a bad day for them.
My experience with black dice is what gives me worry. I hit about 25% of the time with them. I've checked all the sides, I know I should do better, but somehow seem to miss all day long with them.
On 11/4/2018 at 2:13 AM, Supertimland said:I've been out of the loop for a couple of months, time to upgrade what I have for Imps. I am still yet to actually play a game haha.
I have 2 starters, Veers, AT-ST.
What should the next 2 purchases I make for Imps be? 1x Snowies and 1x scouts? Is boba as useful as say Veers?
TIA
Boba doesn’t count for the required commander slot, and his command cards mean that only he gets ordered. That being said, his command cards are pretty useful (jet pack rocket can be pretty devastating at range 3 combined with his e3: blast+Sharpshooter 2+Impact 2+pierce 1=Virtually guarantees damage against a target)
I’d say the snowtroopers and scouts are worth it, even just for the variety/cards.
If you are looking to buy exactly 2 things, I would recommend 1x snowtroopers and either an e-web or scouts.
Snowtroopers give you an alternative to Stormtroopers, and since you always have to use a bunch of corps units the snowtroopers will probably see the table quite a bit.
As for the other selection, I think the e-web and the scouts both offer you something you don't necessarily have. The scouts with the sniper offer some good long range support and activation advantage. The E-web is another cheap activation.
Since your collection includes Vader and the ATST, getting some cheap units that give you activation advantage lets you take those units and gets more of your collection on the table. I think if you take Boba you are resigned to leave some of your units on the bench.
You know, I'm really torn on this one.
On one hand, I want to suggest Snowtroopers x2. I really think they do an amazing job complimenting the regular Stormtroopers as your DLT unit can be used primarily for longer ranged support while the Snowtroopers advance toward further forward objectives.
But I also think Scout Troopers x2 would be a boon for less expensive activations. Running Snipers x2 would allow your Stormtroopers to lead the assault while they provide long range cover fire. You could even toss in a Scout Trooper unit for more Objective control since they have huge close range damage potential.
However, if you buy one of each you kind of get the best of both worlds. Biggest drawback to one of each is that current results are tending to show that running multiple sniper teams is more effective than one solo team.
So in the end, I guess I'm not much help but you really can't go wrong on any choice. ![]()
Everyone makes good points and it is a hard decision- but if I had to choose to only pick up two- I personally would go for one snow and one scout like you suggested in your OP. My reasoning is that since you already have a real solid base army with two cores, Veers and an AT-ST, you can start mixing and matching to see what units and play style you really like.
Having one of each snow and scout lets you have a more diverse collection of minis, it gives a wider range of upgrades, and it allows you to test both out. Because after playing a few times you could think "hmm I could have used another snow (or scout) here in this situation, etc". So I think having that wider range of options to test out will let you hone your army in on your play style and give you an idea of what you want to pick up next.
The snow troopers are a really solid corps option, I love them and almost always run two. Although slow- the ability to move, shoot, then move is great and when optioned with the flamer, they can act as a cleanup crew and remove wounded units. So pairing these guys with stormtroopers has a nice give and take. If you also decide to go with a more infantry based army, you'll want more corps and trooper units so being able to throw these guys in will let you fill up your corps slot without taking all stormies.
The scouts are a great deal because you essentially get two units in one, a normal scout unit and a strike team that you could play at the same time, giving you an extra activation out of that set. I think the general consensus is having more than one scout unit to be able to play more strike teams but for right now, having one to try out won't hurt.
A good case could be made to pick up Boba but I would hold off on him for a minute if you have yet to play a game, you're definitely going to want to use your AT-ST for awhile because it's so fun, easy to use and looks awesome on the table. Plus as an expensive model, leaving it home on the shelf or in storage doesnt feel too good ? Luckily Boba is a cheap unit to buy so you can really get him whenever.
Lastly, since you already have two speeder bike support units, E-webs are probably good to pick up later down the road for a cheaper support option- two of those is a little over the point cost of one speeder bike unit so running a pair wouldn't be too hard.
I would highly recommend 2 sets of Snowtroopers, honestly. I find they are pretty excellent as a complement to your existing Stormtroopers. The base for most of my army is 3 Stormtrooper squads with a DLT and 2 Snowtrooper squads with a Flamethrower, extra Snowtrooper, and Impact grenades. With what you already have, you can use these 5 with Vader and 2 speeder bikes for a Vader list, or add a 4th Stormtrooper (so 6 corps) and run Veers and Weiss ATST or Veers and Bikes. You can craft a number of lists if you buy 2x Snowtroopers.
Scout Troopers are probably the new toy that will be in most competitive lists - particularly the Strike teams. So they would be a good pickup. Again though, you want 2 if not 3.
Boba is a great buy, but Boba isn't going to give you the added variety you need when you still don't have a whole lot of options. So while he is fun, I would suggest you build out your trooper options first, since you definitely need more to field competitive lists.