if we no lynch, scum kills only 1 person, doc keeps cop alive, wouldn't that mean a 4 vote hammer? thereby giving us an edge by not allowing me to get turbo'd and not voting me off today to stop it?

But guys... if I had been scum I would want so many points for the sheer levels of time and effort I’ve put into a masquerade of this scale!!

Just now, EbonHawk said:

if we no lynch, scum kills only 1 person, doc keeps cop alive, wouldn't that mean a 4 vote hammer? thereby giving us an edge by not allowing me to get turbo'd and not voting me off today to stop it?

gnips would this work, if jabba scans broba, cv scans jabba we get 1 scum then the next one the next day we win

No then we would kill scum / +night kill

4 left we alive / we would then have to kill scum

We would have to be perfect from here on out just like we have to be now

1 minute ago, EbonHawk said:

gnips would this work, if jabba scans broba, cv scans jabba we get 1 scum then the next one the next day we win

If we no-lynch today, then there will be 7 of us at day's end. I will die tonight, which leaves 6 of us alive next morning. 6 means 4 to hammer. Ebon will then need 3 votes to hammer, meaning that assuming there are indeed only 2 scum they will be unable to quick hammer him and will tip their hand doing so.

I think this can work.

Just now, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

If we no-lynch today, then there will be 7 of us at day's end. I will die tonight, which leaves 6 of us alive next morning. 6 means 4 to hammer. Ebon will then need 3 votes to hammer, meaning that assuming there are indeed only 2 scum they will be unable to quick hammer him and will tip their hand doing so.

I think this can work.

this is game history in the making, but I think this is the best option now...

just because if town fail in getting in first we lose, this gives us an advantage by keeping control of our own lynch.. plus the 100% chance of getting at least one cop result we can win so

##vote no vote

##unvote

(while I double check the logic)

1 minute ago, Matt3412 said:

No then we would kill scum / +night kill

4 left we alive / we would then have to kill scum

We would have to be perfect from here on out just like we have to be now

Yeah, I hadn't considered the next day.

So, assuming we no lynch today, the next day we are 6, and either Jabba and LP have both been cleared, meaning we vote Broba/Matt, or one of them has been found to be scum, meaning that we vote him. We are nearly guaranteed to find a scum tomorrow. If Jabba is scum and LP is town, then we may have to recheck LP to confirm that, but at least we would have Jabba.

Which means the next day, CV is NKed. Ebon, Matt, and two of LP/Jabba/Broba are alive. With 4 alive it makes 3 to hammer, meaning scum can't go it alone and we can guess which one it is.

Of course, this whole thing falls apart if Ebon is scum, but. . .

7 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Yeah, I hadn't considered the next day.

So, assuming we no lynch today, the next day we are 6, and either Jabba and LP have both been cleared, meaning we vote Broba/Matt, or one of them has been found to be scum, meaning that we vote him. We are nearly guaranteed to find a scum tomorrow. If Jabba is scum and LP is town, then we may have to recheck LP to confirm that, but at least we would have Jabba.

Which means the next day, CV is NKed. Ebon, Matt, and two of LP/Jabba/Broba are alive. With 4 alive it makes 3 to hammer, meaning scum can't go it alone and we can guess which one it is.

Of course, this whole thing falls apart if Ebon is scum, but. . .

GNIPs MVP everybody!!

11 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Yeah, I hadn't considered the next day.

So, assuming we no lynch today, the next day we are 6, and either Jabba and LP have both been cleared, meaning we vote Broba/Matt, or one of them has been found to be scum, meaning that we vote him. We are nearly guaranteed to find a scum tomorrow. If Jabba is scum and LP is town, then we may have to recheck LP to confirm that, but at least we would have Jabba.

Which means the next day, CV is NKed. Ebon, Matt, and two of LP/Jabba/Broba are alive. With 4 alive it makes 3 to hammer, meaning scum can't go it alone and we can guess which one it is.

Of course, this whole thing falls apart if Ebon is scum, but. . .

If i was scum I deserve the game, but as it is after being confident on jabba/broba all game.. taking a no vote succpers their plans and gives us the vital control over the lynch tomorrow with the chance to win the game

Uhhh... hi everyone?

51 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Yeah, I hadn't considered the next day.

So, assuming we no lynch today, the next day we are 6, and either Jabba and LP have both been cleared, meaning we vote Broba/Matt, or one of them has been found to be scum, meaning that we vote him. We are nearly guaranteed to find a scum tomorrow. If Jabba is scum and LP is town, then we may have to recheck LP to confirm that, but at least we would have Jabba.

Which means the next day, CV is NKed. Ebon, Matt, and two of LP/Jabba/Broba are alive. With 4 alive it makes 3 to hammer, meaning scum can't go it alone and we can guess which one it is.

Of course, this whole thing falls apart if Ebon is scum, but. .

Your forgetting that ebon dies at 1 less.

Meaning when at 4 if we fail or no kill

Ebon gets killed the next day day 3x and we lose

No we need to hold and force them to vote and see who votes for who this is the best option we will learn something

I do not agree with a No vote

Well that's a development. I've been trying to process a no lynch because my gut says no to it.

I'd say I'm on the fence

1 minute ago, Matt3412 said:

Your forgetting that ebon dies at 1 less.

Meaning when at 4 if we fail or no kill

Ebon gets killed the next day day 3x and we lose

No, I allowed for that. Tomorrow hammer is 4, so even 2 scum cannot kill Ebon (who would need 3). Day later, we are at 4, 3 to hammer. Ebon needs 2, but presumably we have killed a scum the day before, so the one lonely scum wouldn't be able to do it. If we haven't killed a scum, then scum win by default and there is no need to vote for Ebon anyway.

Voting today only brings the end one day closer with the chance of killing town and ruining it.

We're at lylo right now. We'd be at lylo tomorrow too, but with 2 more scans. That's the only effective difference.

I'd be on board.

4 minutes ago, Matt3412 said:

I do not agree with a No vote

the no vote stops me getting turbo'd and allows us to actually win this game

I'll follow GNIPS, having scanned him and all that.

2 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

No, I allowed for that. Tomorrow hammer is 4, so even 2 scum cannot kill Ebon (who would need 3). Day later, we are at 4, 3 to hammer. Ebon needs 2, but presumably we have killed a scum the day before, so the one lonely scum wouldn't be able to do it. If we haven't killed a scum, then scum win by default and there is no need to vote for Ebon anyway.

Voting today only brings the end one day closer with the chance of killing town and ruining it.

This!! we need to hope CV gets a scum result through and we get 1 scum tomorrow then we're on a home straight

7 minutes ago, Matt3412 said:

Your forgetting that ebon dies at 1 less.

Meaning when at 4 if we fail or no kill

Ebon gets killed the next day day 3x and we lose

this doesn't make sense if we no vote the opposite would happen

1 minute ago, EbonHawk said:

this doesn't make sense if we no vote the opposite would happen

Correct I got turned around

I'll

##vote no vote

Likewise.

##vote no vote

no vote is L-1?