18 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

It's the speed of the train's growth. You seem eager to end him, based on light evidence (D1 argument) with D2 barely begun.

Hold off voting for now. We don't want to risk Mad getting turboed, especially not this early in the day.

Even assuming thats a full town train, I doubt they’d turbo me at this point. Too early game for such an incriminating action.

##unvote adequate defense

40 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

This might be the first unprompted early reveal I’ve ever been completely ok with, tactically. Kudos.

Thanks bro :')

Here are the people that have only voted for confirmed town[on day 1 its gone to *** since then] Maybe there is something useful here

-LTD (both dead)

-Lord Preyer

-Constantine Valdor

Me being town but not confirmed obviously expands this list

-the JabbaWookie (Me + D1K)

-GhostofNobodyInParticular

The most interesting part is the 2 that have established a pattern of multiple votes on town.

LTD

The JabbaWookie [I have much less suspicion of you currently due to me not being confirmed and i'm acting not very rationally]

LTD has now also voted for Mag another person that might i say is seeming more town as of late.

However LTD kicked off the train this morning immediately with some known momentum out there i.e. myself.

i'm feeling like i got a little played i concede

1 hour ago, Madaghmire said:

Even assuming thats a full town train, I doubt they’d turbo me at this point. Too early game for such an incriminating action.

I agree, which is what leads me to Jab/Broba off train, as I'm seeing town for you, gnips, LTD and matt, that doesn't leave much left

7 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

I agree, which is what leads me to Jab/Broba off train, as I'm seeing town for you, gnips, LTD and matt, that doesn't leave much left

Why town on LTD, Gnips? Nips has played his game so far, which is to day, very deliberate. I wouldn’t say anything he’s done has me running either way on him. His comments today in my defense, while appreciated, are more or less common sense town comments. They could be exactly what they appear to be, and they could be distancing, if we assume theres at least one scum on my train. That could be CV, and that could be LTD.

Matts analysis of LTD’s game so far has to at least raise your eyebrows, I think. Furthermore, I’m looking at his argument for voting me, and contrasted with my defense, specifically that I at days beginning was a solid lynch candidate, and I could see him being the scumductor of that train.

All that said, my highest suspicion player right now is CV for the follow. I’m bringing up these arguments simply to devils advocate the process of elimination argument, which I think has the most value to town if its subjected to brainstorming this early in the game, since we are still operating on relatively little information.

31 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

Why town on LTD, Gnips? Nips has played his game so far, which is to day, very deliberate. I wouldn’t say anything he’s done has me running either way on him. His comments today in my defense, while appreciated, are more or less common sense town comments. They could be exactly what they appear to be, and they could be distancing, if we assume theres at least one scum on my train. That could be CV, and that could be LTD.

Matts analysis of LTD’s game so far has to at least raise your eyebrows, I think. Furthermore, I’m looking at his argument for voting me, and contrasted with my defense, specifically that I at days beginning was a solid lynch candidate, and I could see him being the scumductor of that train.

All that said, my highest suspicion player right now is CV for the follow. I’m bringing up these arguments simply to devils advocate the process of elimination argument, which I think has the most value to town if its subjected to brainstorming this early in the game, since we are still operating on relatively little information.

On Gnips I see him playing a town game IMO, could be wrong but I usually sense a little something from him when he's afoot.. I don't see him pulling the Pod kill, I do see Borba/Jabba capable of such

LTD while he's 60/40 for me, he seems more town than he has done when playing scum recently.. Like I said my gut tells me they're both town

CV while I thought he could be town day start his vote was very suspicious

26 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

On Gnips I see him playing a town game IMO, could be wrong but I usually sense a little something from him when he's afoot.. I don't see him pulling the Pod kill, I do see Borba/Jabba capable of such

LTD while he's 60/40 for me, he seems more town than he has done when playing scum recently.. Like I said my gut tells me they're both town

CV while I thought he could be town day start his vote was very suspicious

I'll explain on D3 if I survive N2 :/ trust me on Mad's vote pls.

Just now, Constantine Valdor said:

I'll explain on D3 if I survive N2 ? trust me on Mad's vote pls.

You don't need to explain, I think I know...

Stop throwing bread I'm not a duck but this does change things...

In a game of 11 I find 3 scum a bit too much, maybe 2 scum, 1 3rd party?

Either way I would like to hear from @Madaghmire now

4 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

You don't need to explain, I think I know...

Stop throwing bread I'm not a duck but this does change things...

In a game of 11 I find 3 scum a bit too much, maybe 2 scum, 1 3rd party?

Either way I would like to hear from @Madaghmire now

Great minds think alike

Depends on what his results say. He could be telling the truth and still have reason to vote me, but I’m not scum.

6 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

Depends on what his results say. He could be telling the truth and still have reason to vote me, but I’m not scum.

So a 3rd party role? that could show up for a cop as odd but still not be a danger to town.. depending of what he was told/you are

19 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

Depends on what his results say. He could be telling the truth and still have reason to vote me, but I’m not scum.

I would like to point out that this doesn't mean you aren't a threat, just not scum.

1 minute ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

I would like to point out that this doesn't mean you aren't a threat, just not scum.

I’m a reasonable choice if town has nowhere else to go, but I’m suboptimal. I do not have a night or day action. I’m a third party lyncher, so I’m a threat to a single individual, and I’m legitmately unsure of their affiliation. As such, I’ve just been playing as though I was vanilla town.

And no, its not Ebon. That was just a legit philosophical difference. Yes, they are still alive. No, I wont tell you who it exactly it is, because I’m not sure if that would make it impossible for me to win, since any argument I bring against them would now have to weighed with extreme skepticism. Should town choose to leave me alive to pursue my condition, I imagine they will still have to weigh my arguments against this information, but since I intend to keep playing it as though I rolled vanilla town, town will still gain the benefit of seeing those arguments.

Also, I’d like to point out that Nips didn’t seem to question whether or not I’m third party. Oversight?

23 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

So a 3rd party role? that could show up for a cop as odd but still not be a danger to town.. depending of what he was told/you are

Yeah thats what I’m saying, I don’t know what his results look like, and I don’t know how Cal would have me come up under investigation.

2 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

Also, I’d like to point out that Nips didn’t seem to question whether or not I’m third party. Oversight?

I'd wager with the target of Gnips

15 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

Also, I’d like to point out that Nips didn’t seem to question whether or not I’m third party. Oversight?

No. It was merely pointing out that your statement didn't mean you weren't a threat. The phrasing of your statement sounded a bit lawyer-y*, and I was pointing that out.

*As in 'You told me you wouldn't harm a hair on his head!' 'Yes, *pluck* this hair!'

22 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

I’m a reasonable choice if town has nowhere else to go, but I’m suboptimal. I do not have a night or day action. I’m a third party lyncher, so I’m a threat to a single individual, and I’m legitmately unsure of their affiliation. As such, I’ve just been playing as though I was vanilla town.

And no, its not Ebon. That was just a legit philosophical difference. Yes, they are still alive. No, I wont tell you who it exactly it is, because I’m not sure if that would make it impossible for me to win, since any argument I bring against them would now have to weighed with extreme skepticism. Should town choose to leave me alive to pursue my condition, I imagine they will still have to weigh my arguments against this information, but since I intend to keep playing it as though I rolled vanilla town, town will still gain the benefit of seeing those arguments.

Also in light of my own role as Hateful town I buy this from Mad... makes town

Just now, EbonHawk said:

Also in light of my own role as Hateful town I buy this from Mad... makes town

*makes sense as town lol

I would from Broba on my vote for him, not a peep from him all day and barely anything yesterday...

He says he was busy, busy enough to not vote, but not busy enough to not push the vote?

@BrobaFett you're wanted

what if con is just making this up?

Just now, Matt3412 said:

what if con is just making this up?

Then he guessed extremely well.

you right everything seems to be adding up