2 minutes ago, Matt3412 said:

why would you go back 3 months to find a post seems like your really reaching on that one.

Because it ostensibly disproves his point?

Just now, Madaghmire said:

Because it ostensibly disproves his point?

convenient

Just now, EbonHawk said:

convenient

I mean, when you say things that can be proven false, it does make it easy.

this is a game of lying fellas nothing proves anything not on day 1

It proves what I introduced it to prove, that I have previously attacked posts saying that roles in games we aren’t currently playing matter.

23 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

It proves what I introduced it to prove, that I have previously attacked posts saying that roles in games we aren’t currently playing matter.

and I've said hanging people who roll scum more often than a completely random vote is better before.. point?

I wouldn't and am not voting you because you roll scum a lot but because of how you've taken the comment, I've got eyes on others, as D1 is all about looking for any slips you can see, because it's better to vote with a little forethought than none, and it's better to vote with the odds than pick at random.

28 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

It proves what I introduced it to prove, that I have previously attacked posts saying that roles in games we aren’t currently playing matter.

and okay point me out if that's your thing but why the vote then?

the vote seems like you're trying to silence me from going after you again for that point this game, maybe cause you scum?

Also - Bayern Munich 1-0 up Lewandowski

45 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

Because it ostensibly disproves his point?

and no it doesn't, it proves you've done it before in a scum game of all things..

and are doing it again, I gamble as scum, using it as cover

1 minute ago, EbonHawk said:

and no it doesn't, it proves you've done it before in a scum game of all things..

and are doing it again, I gamble as scum, using it as cover

Seems.... weird?

If this was true, he literally spoon fed this info to you. I think he mentioned it was a scum game to get out in front of us finding it out and making it look like he was lying. I mean, he could be double double faking, but for D1 with no other corroboration I don't think I buy that Mad accidentally told us all this is how he acted in a scum game = he is scum this game. It could be an attempt to hide in plain site... but I think that is way more risky than Mad would play scum at least d1.

Just now, BrobaFett said:

Seems.... weird?

If this was true, he literally spoon fed this info to you. I think he mentioned it was a scum game to get out in front of us finding it out and making it look like he was lying. I mean, he could be double double faking, but for D1 with no other corroboration I don't think I buy that Mad accidentally told us all this is how he acted in a scum game = he is scum this game. It could be an attempt to hide in plain site... but I think that is way more risky than Mad would play scum at least d1.

Don't worry I do see this as well, just want to apply some pressure because it's Mad and he's good enough to not underestimate, hence my pushing... and to see who pushes Mad as well..

I think it would be risky of him, but as at that point I hadn't voted and had expressed a desire to dig some more over the next day or so for info to avoid a lets hang RNG (to which I offered my alternative to random votes) despite all of that he still choose to place his vote on me and bring the point up, which I would've gotten if I'd be voting him myself and pushing others to vote him personally as well which is odd...

hence the pressure

@Caldias can we get a vote count?

58 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

and okay point me out if that's your thing but why the vote then?

the vote seems like you're trying to silence me from going after you again for that point this game, maybe cause you scum?

Also - Bayern Munich 1-0 up Lewandowski

Because I believed you were hiding behind it as an opportunity to push a wagon that can easily be laughed off later as “Day 1 so random lulz”. Thats what I meant by “seems like he’s testing the water to see if the idea has legs” in my original post. You name three people based on nothing in-game, and see if you can get a wagon started. It looks like scum hunting, but really its just noise and no substance.

1 hour ago, EbonHawk said:

and no it doesn't, it proves you've done it before in a scum game of all things..

and are doing it again, I gamble as scum, using it as cover

Did what? The thing you literally just said I was scum for never doing before?

2 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

Because I believed you were hiding behind it as an opportunity to push a wagon that can easily be laughed off later as “Day 1 so random lulz”. Thats what I meant by “seems like he’s testing the water to see if the idea has legs” in my original post. You name three people based on nothing in-game, and see if you can get a wagon started. It looks like scum hunting, but really its just noise and no substance.

noise and no substance is just what you wrote above, and boy you're reaching... starting a wagon please ahahahahahahaha

I said hanging the high scum rollers which even if *you* dont like it, IS you, gnips, and Jab... which IMO is better than a truly RANDOM PICK..

AT NO POINT do I say this is what we should do, the opposite in face saying we should talk more so we can look out for slip ups to avoid having to go random.. for you Mad i'm surprised you can't see the difference..

3 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

Did what? The thing you literally just said I was scum for never doing before?

When did i say you never did what before?

You seem to be rather reaching in your argument on me, but that's because I think you're stuck into it now... I can't see how you can interpret anything I've said as building a wagon on you (pre your vote), and as I've explained many times the reasons for what I said and everyone else seems to be able to understand my POV but YOU.. yes it does rather raise some questions about who you are and where you were when Cal died...

10 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

based on nothing in-game

I mean obviously as it was like 6 posts into the first day, and what 4 out of 11 people were actually vocal... Hardly had a back catalogue of posts to quote and it was an opinion not an accusation i made hence I don't need to base it on anything ingame

7 hours ago, EbonHawk said:

OOOOOOO you're touchy this morning darling...

Never said that was my tact, but if we came down to just picking a number out of the hat, yes I'd hang you or Cal (if he were alive and jokes about in his own post) first... ya know why, not because as you say I don't understand probability, but because of the infinite improbability you and cal, and to a lesser extent jab/gnips drop scum (I hope you like that hitchhikers reference). This is something I've said in MANY MANY MANY games previous....

Yet this game you take exception, maybe you don't want it to gain any thought because you have different motives?

The early vote seems to make this look so

Right here. There is only one reasonable inference from this comment Ebon.

1 minute ago, Madaghmire said:

Right here. There is only one reasonable inference from this comment Ebon.

I literally have no idea what you're trying to say about me...

1 hour ago, EbonHawk said:

and I've said hanging people who roll scum more often than a completely random vote is better before.. point?

You may have said that before, but it's still objectively wrong. Roles are determined by RNG.

3 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

Right here. There is only one reasonable inference from this comment Ebon.

Also if you mean the shade at you, as it was after you came out hard voting me it means nothing in your defence...

If I'd said that before you voted me fair does, but it was only after you came out hard defending yourself and targeting me

1 minute ago, The Jabbawookie said:

You may have said that before, but it's still objectively wrong. Roles are determined by RNG.

Nope, shall I hang a new person, pick a number out the hat... no

By luck/chance you guys do roll scum often, and i would vote one of you personally (not telling others to) if it was a truly RNG vote D1, which I've stressed wouldn't happen if people talk so we can investigate and play a game about Talking...

If you can't see why I'd rather hang one of the high scum rollers over just a random pick then I don't understand...

I'll also point out I'm not voting Mad because he rolls scum alot but rather how big a thing he made over an observation I said at the start and hoped to avoid....

I know roles are RNG but Mad, You, and Gnips are good players so regardless of role history are still good D1 votes bc if you're scum you can be dangerous... is that more palatable for people over a role history, because both are true...

I also fail to see why it's a big deal after all, as said, if we talk we wouldn't ever be in a position where a vote would be RNG and you wouldn't be at risk, not would Mad.. so that said I wonder why it took it to heart enough to vote me....

He's made a mountain out of a mole hill.. and continuing to push a point on me about building a wagon on him... which I didn't do all I did was say IMO I wouldn't do a name out of the hat vote, that's my personal opinion on day 1 if people don't like that I DON'T CARE because I don't like RNG day 1 vote wagons for no reasons but I don't bang on about it

Arguing with you is infuriating.

You raise the question in the bolded comment above, why I would be bothered by the scum role probability track, and imply it must be because I’m scum.

I post a comment from another game showing that I have an established record of not considering and attacking that train of thought.

Now you’re saying you’ve never said I haven’t done that before. Which is why I’m bringing up the bolded comment above. You can’t have it both ******* ways. I can’t be scummy because I’ve never challenged this line of thought and also scummy because in the first circumstance I could find to post I happened to be scum. Its logically inconsistent.

9 minutes ago, The Jabbawookie said:

You may have said that before, but it's still objectively wrong. Roles are determined by RNG.

Just now, EbonHawk said:

Nope, shall I hang a new person, pick a number out the hat... no

By luck/chance you guys do roll scum often, and i would vote one of you personally (not telling others to) if it was a truly RNG vote D1, which I've stressed wouldn't happen if people talk so we can investigate and play a game about Talking...

If you can't see why I'd rather hang one of the high scum rollers over just a random pick then I don't understand...

I'll also point out I'm not voting Mad because he rolls scum alot but rather how big a thing he made over an observation I said at the start and hoped to avoid....

I know roles are RNG but Mad, You, and Gnips are good players so regardless of role history are still good D1 votes bc if you're scum you can be dangerous... is that more palatable for people over a role history, because both are true...

I also fail to see why it's a big deal after all, as said, if we talk we wouldn't ever be in a position where a vote would be RNG and you wouldn't be at risk, not would Mad.. so that said I wonder why it took it to heart enough to vote me....

He's made a mountain out of a mole hill.. and continuing to push a point on me about building a wagon on him... which I didn't do all I did was say IMO I wouldn't do a name out of the hat vote, that's my personal opinion on day 1 if people don't like that I DON'T CARE because I don't like RNG day 1 vote wagons for no reasons but I don't bang on about it

Jabba is objectively correct.

Just now, EbonHawk said:

Mad, You, and Gnips are good players so regardless of role history

Aw thanks.

1 minute ago, EbonHawk said:

which I didn't do all I did was say IMO I wouldn't do a name out of the hat vote, that's my personal opinion on day 1 if people don't like that I DON'T CARE because I don't like RNG day 1 vote wagons for no reasons but I don't bang on about it

I mean, you and Mads banging on about it means we don't have total RNG. Which is nice.

Fwiw, I no longer think Ebon is scum. I just want him dead.

2 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

Arguing with you is infuriating.

You raise the question in the bolded comment above, why I would be bothered by the scum role probability track, and imply it must be because I’m scum.

I post a comment from another game showing that I have an established record of not considering and attacking that train of thought.

Now you’re saying you’ve never said I haven’t done that before. Which is why I’m bringing up the bolded comment above. You can’t have it both ******* ways. I can’t be scummy because I’ve never challenged this line of thought and also scummy because in the first circumstance I could find to post I happened to be scum. Its logically inconsistent.

Where did I say you've never done it before? You've done it to other, not me though if I remember... so yes you did take exception to my comment..

Saying you've never said it before though, I didn't type those words