RTL discard question

By eWabbie, in Descent: Journeys in the Dark

When playing RTL, which cards are discarded into the grave yard and permantly out of the game once used.

eWabbie said:

When playing RTL, which cards are discarded into the grave yard and permantly out of the game once used.

Not that many really.

First, the plot cards from unselected plots.
RtL pg8
The cards associated with the two Plots that were not chosen are placed in the graveyard box and removed from the campaign.

Second, Dead Lts
RtL pg16
if a hero kills the lieutenant, ...The lieutenant card is placed in the graveyard box,

Third, completed rumours (unless it says the heroes should keep the card).
RtL pg19
The reward is granted immediately when the conditions are met. The Rumor card is also then removed from the campaign (being placed in the graveyard box),

Last, any card that is specified as 'removed from the game', 'permantly removed' or 'placed in the graveyard'. This includes such things as one of the heroes rumour rewards (where they can remove two OL AVatar upgrades from the game), the Transport Gem if used, any cards removed by Focus etc.
It does not include things that have merely been 'destroyed', such as treasure items destroyed by crushing blow.

+1 for Corbon.

When we play we usually put dungeon cards in the graveyard to ensure we get no repeats in a single campaign, but that's not actually what the rules say. I believe it is theoretically possible for us to run out of dungeon cards playing this way, in which case we'd have to pull them all out and start again, but that hasn't happened to us as yet.

Steve-O said:

+1 for Corbon.

When we play we usually put dungeon cards in the graveyard to ensure we get no repeats in a single campaign, but that's not actually what the rules say. I believe it is theoretically possible for us to run out of dungeon cards playing this way, in which case we'd have to pull them all out and start again, but that hasn't happened to us as yet.

We play this way too - BUT - we also have been discarding the encounter and location cards as well. OBVIOUSLY, when we run out of certain encounter cards - we will pull them out and mix them back in - BUT - we want to get through and experience all the content we can - without the doubling of dungeons/locations/encounters... until we have to at least.

But Corbon - you mention "Destroyed" items via crushing blow - but the wording was funny, maybe only to me, are those treasures merely put back into the deck of treasure cards OR "destroyed" in the sense that they would be sent to the graveyard box?

SoylentGreen said:

But Corbon - you mention "Destroyed" items via crushing blow - but the wording was funny, maybe only to me, are those treasures merely put back into the deck of treasure cards OR "destroyed" in the sense that they would be sent to the graveyard box?

Items destroyed by Crushing Blow (and other similar effects) are sent to the respective discard pile for that treasure type (or the town items deck if applicable) and they will be reshuffled if/when the treasure deck runs out. (Town items are all one pile, as usual. It is not wise to Crushing Blow a town item unless you really need it gone RIGHT NOW.)

Steve-O said:

SoylentGreen said:

But Corbon - you mention "Destroyed" items via crushing blow - but the wording was funny, maybe only to me, are those treasures merely put back into the deck of treasure cards OR "destroyed" in the sense that they would be sent to the graveyard box?

Items destroyed by Crushing Blow (and other similar effects) are sent to the respective discard pile for that treasure type (or the town items deck if applicable) and they will be reshuffled if/when the treasure deck runs out. (Town items are all one pile, as usual. It is not wise to Crushing Blow a town item unless you really need it gone RIGHT NOW.)

Interesting. Just yesterday I put a frost destroyed weapon in the *totally dead* box. So I should shuffle it back into the copper treasures I'm getting out of this? My wife will be pleased, though since she called at work today to remind me I 'took her only good weapon for Jaes' I might sit on this info for now... demonio.gif

Winter324 said:

Steve-O said:

SoylentGreen said:

But Corbon - you mention "Destroyed" items via crushing blow - but the wording was funny, maybe only to me, are those treasures merely put back into the deck of treasure cards OR "destroyed" in the sense that they would be sent to the graveyard box?

Items destroyed by Crushing Blow (and other similar effects) are sent to the respective discard pile for that treasure type (or the town items deck if applicable) and they will be reshuffled if/when the treasure deck runs out. (Town items are all one pile, as usual. It is not wise to Crushing Blow a town item unless you really need it gone RIGHT NOW.)

Interesting. Just yesterday I put a frost destroyed weapon in the *totally dead* box. So I should shuffle it back into the copper treasures I'm getting out of this? My wife will be pleased, though since she called at work today to remind me I 'took her only good weapon for Jaes' I might sit on this info for now... demonio.gif

Yes.
Your wife plays? Man, you owe it to us normal folk to treat her real good...

To Soylent Green:
It does not include things that have merely been 'destroyed', such as treasure items destroyed by crushing blow.
Destroyed stuff is not removed from the game. Destroyed was in quotation marks because it was being used as a 'generic' word unlike the rest of the answer. Crushing Blow, for example, merely forces a discard and does not actually 'destroy' anything, as does Frost.
I'm sorry for the confusion.

SoylentGreen said:

Steve-O said:

+1 for Corbon.

When we play we usually put dungeon cards in the graveyard to ensure we get no repeats in a single campaign, but that's not actually what the rules say. I believe it is theoretically possible for us to run out of dungeon cards playing this way, in which case we'd have to pull them all out and start again, but that hasn't happened to us as yet.

We play this way too - BUT - we also have been discarding the encounter and location cards as well. OBVIOUSLY, when we run out of certain encounter cards - we will pull them out and mix them back in - BUT - we want to get through and experience all the content we can - without the doubling of dungeons/locations/encounters... until we have to at least.

Thanks. We put the dungeon cards and encoutner and location cards in the graveyard. I was curious of this was a rule or not. We will continue to do so to allow us to play all the cards and not repeat.