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Daisy's Elder Sign effect reads: "+0. If you succeed, draw 1 card for each TOME you control."

per RRG: "A player controls the cards located in his or her out-of-play game areas (such as hand, deck, discard pile).

(Oddly, this definition does not include cards in your Play Area?? ie - Assets played).

SO..... how many TOMEs would Daisy control for her Elder Sign effect? Assets played? All Tomes she included in her deck, except Tomes in her assets area?

Just trying to be clear on definitions of terms and this is throwing me.

Tome is a keyword on certain Assets.

yes, I realize TOME is a keyword on certain assets. My question is about what TOMES to count? in hand? in asset play area? in discard pile? in deck? She gets to draw cards based on the # of TOMEs she controls.

What are the TOMEs that are "controlled"?

36 minutes ago, --JP said:

(Oddly, this definition does  not include cards in your Play Area?? ie - Assets played). 

If you read down two lines:

"Cards by default enter play under their owner’s control. Some abilities may cause cards to change control during a game."

So Assets you play that you own are under your control.

I am 100% sure it means the number of Tomes you have in your play area. A strict reading of the rules would say otherwise, but I am sure that is not the intent.

„Card abilities only interact with other cards that are in play, unless the ability specically references an interaction with cards in an out-of-play area.“

from the Rules Reference

—> Only tomes in Daisy‘s play area count.

You would be able to draw up to four cards off of the elder sign effect. Two hand slots plus two additional hand slots dedicated exclusively for tomes courtesy of Daisy's Tote Bag.

5 hours ago, Astrophil84 said:

„Card abilities only interact with other cards that are in play, unless the ability specically references an interaction with cards in an out-of-play area.“

from the Rules Reference

—> Only tomes in Daisy‘s play area count.

This is correct. It's sneaky because the answer is outside the definition on Control and Ownership. While you do control the cards in hand and in your deck, other cards cannot interact with them, unless they explicitly say they can.

thank you for the replies and the rules references

In a related question, Lola's weakness "Crisis of Identity" instructs you to discard all cards that you control of your current role. Does this mean that I don't need to throw out the cards from my hand/deck, just the ones from my play area?

8 minutes ago, ManateeX said:

In a related question, Lola's weakness "Crisis of Identity" instructs you to discard all cards that you control of  your current role. Does this mean that I don't need to throw out the cards from my hand/deck, just the ones from my play area?   

Only from your play area.

3 hours ago, Jobu said:

Only from your play area.

Or cards that you have attached to an encounter card (e.g. Shortcut [2] attached to a location), but not cards that you have attached to other investigators' cards (e.g. Custom Ammunition played on another investigator's firearm asset) because you no longer control them.

Happy 1,000th Post @Jobu !

3 hours ago, Assussanni said:

Happy 1,000th Post @Jobu !     

Where did that come from? Thanks!!!