BB8 Black One Poe 5 acton round?

By Rocket_Cat, in X-Wing Rules Questions

Quick question here: Poe with BB8 and Black One dials in a blue manuever and executes it. He takes the SLAM action but before executing the SLAM, he BB8 barrel rolls linked focus, then executes a blue slam maneuver, into a TL / poe ability boost.

Sound possible by the rules?

Edited by Rocket_Cat

I think so.

Can only do that once though, and then only 1 bb8 in rounds after.

It's alot invested into one mega turn.

But I can't think of any other triple reposition ships.... Nasty.

Edited by Icelom

Might have to have the BB8 barrel roll > red focus before the first maneuver instead of having it trigger off the SLAM, the stress from the Focus might cancel out the SLAM and render none of the actions done.

12 minutes ago, Rocket_Cat said:

... he BB8 barrel rolls linked focus ...

Slight flaw with your plan here:

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The T-70 has a Focus into linked Roll, not the other way around. Probably exactly to stop BB shenanigans.

given theres a generic BB now which gives roll, its probably a focus into a roll specifically to stop this.

Even though these hyper-action economy that MUST happen in a specific order are almost never worth it. Especially when BB has charges so you'd only want to use him if you think you absolutely need to. Worst feeling ever is getting in a scenario where you REALLY need that ability but you already used it up on jank maneuvers instead of save-my-butt situations.

I'm wondering where the TL comes from if Poe used his Perform Action step to SLAM.

What I'm seeing as possible:

1) Reveal blue maneuver

2) BB-8 Boost

3) Poe ability Focus

4) S-foils linked barrel roll

5) Blue maneuver clears stress

6) Perform action: SLAM

This gets you Poe's one-time-only stress-free Three Repositions + Focus turn.

Additional notes:

1) Your S-foils are locked into the closed position for the turn (BB-8's timing window is after S-foils, so no Supernatural Luke reposition + open foils shenanigans)

2) As otherwise noted, you can't mess much with the order, excepting that you can save the barrel roll + focus for last at the cost of remaining stressed.

3) You CAN add a fifth action to the end of the chain, assuming he has the ability to equip Advanced SLAM. However, this assumes that you would be willing to sink points into a mod you will use to gain exactly one action over the course of the entire game, and would rather do that than equip something more useful.

Edited by nexttwelveexits
22 minutes ago, nexttwelveexits said:

I'm wondering where the TL comes from if Poe used his Perform Action step to SLAM.

What I'm seeing as possible:

1) Reveal blue maneuver

2) BB-8 Boost

3) Poe ability Focus

4) S-foils linked barrel roll

5) Blue maneuver clears stress

6) Perform action: SLAM

This gets you Poe's one-time-only stress-free Three Repositions + Focus turn.

Additional notes:

1) Your S-foils are locked into the closed position for the turn (BB-8's timing window is after S-foils, so no Supernatural Luke reposition + open foils shenanigans)

2) As otherwise noted, you can't mess much with the order, excepting that you can save the barrel roll + focus for last at the cost of remaining stressed.

3) You CAN add a fifth action to the end of the chain, assuming he has the ability to equip Advanced SLAM. However, this assumes that you would be willing to sink points into a mod you will use to gain exactly one action over the course of the entire game, and would rather do that than equip something more useful.

Does this not fall over at step 4? Poe's ability Focus make the focus action red, meaning he can't perform the linked barrel roll.

39 minutes ago, Elbastido said:

Does this not fall over at step 4? Poe's ability Focus make the focus action red, meaning he can't perform the linked barrel roll.

Yep! You're right

There is so many thing that do not even work in the initial suggestion, please anyone coming disregard it...

Also worth mentioning that BB8 can trigger from the blue 1-straight from the ion maneuver on the turn after using Black One.

53 minutes ago, muribundi said:

There is so many thing that do not even work in the initial suggestion, please anyone coming disregard it...

Lol yeah definitely wrote this on my last legs before sleep last night. Totally recognized my failings as I was falling asleep :P

(Now fully rested): Though with Afterburners we could see: Reveal 3-speed blue maneuver. 1) BB8 Barrel roll, 2) Poe Ability focus or TL, 3) execute blue maneuver, clear stress 4) Perform action SLAM, 5) execute maneuver... 3 talon for instance(?!), 6) Afterburners boost.

Triple reposition at I6 with single mods and a Talon Roll. Seems good if expensive.

Yes, all of these work now :) But, probably no relevant a lot, if you still need positioning after the Talon Roll SLAM, you probably could have just done it on the other side, or done a 90 turn instead... There may be corner case where you need so much but probably really rare.

And by the way sorry, my previous comment was harsher then I meant. It is just that some people end up confused really fast, and untangling your original statement was not usefull anymore... was easier to say: Warning Ignore the original post !

6 minutes ago, muribundi said:

Yes, all of these work now :) But, probably no relevant a lot, if you still need positioning after the Talon Roll SLAM, you probably could have just done it on the other side, or done a 90 turn instead... There may be corner case where you need so much but probably really rare.

And by the way sorry, my previous comment was harsher then I meant. It is just that some people end up confused really fast, and untangling your original statement was not usefull anymore... was easier to say: Warning Ignore the original post !

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