Any tips on how to fly Emperial ships now? I used to do pretty well with them. Now I feel as if an enemy ship turns towards one of mine I'm losing it.

What exactly do you feel is going wrong? What style of play are you utilizing and what ships?

I don't know, they have been performing well for me.

Off the top of my head, try blocking more, the empire has amazing blockers

What specifically have you been running?

TIE Swarms.

Iden is your friend

Just a variety of ships. Some luck, it may be that I need to get used to them again. I haven't gotten used to the new x-wing dials yet so they surprise me from time to time.

I think I'll take more bomers.

I think you need to be more specific. This is a bit like "I tried to bake a cake, but couldn't figure it out". Which ships are you struggling with exactly? In what way was it difficult?

Run Punishers and Bombers and be done with it

On ‎10‎/‎26‎/‎2018 at 1:32 AM, ozmodon said:

I haven't gotten used to the new x-wing dials yet so they surprise me from time to time.

T-65 X-wings specifically, or 2.0 X-wing Miniature dials in general?

Yes. Dials are new.

Being "out-flown" and dial-surprised is going to be a thing for casual players for a while until they get enough games in to know how each ship functions on the table.

It's actually gonna get even more intense once our next 4 factions hit the field.

Just know your strengths and know your dials. The rest will come with time.

"When in doubt... FOCUS."

9 hours ago, Bucknife said:

Yes. Dials are new.

Being "out-flown" and dial-surprised is going to be a thing for casual players for a while until they get enough games in to know how each ship functions on the table.

It's actually gonna get even more intense once our next 4 factions hit the field.

Just know your strengths and know your dials. The rest will come with time.

"When in doubt... FOCUS."

sorry but the Empire needs better answers than Focus, because this weekend Vader and Soontir Focused a lot and it didn't stop them from dying. In fact in many games they both died with the token sitting there, it comes down to the fact that the designers let us down when the thought that token stacking was a problem and went and gave it to the Scum faction, and then they decided boost and Evade are too strong on Vader but lets give those actions to the Hawk, ffs i saw a hawk boost and Vader is sitting there thinking "what am i doing in this POS"

1 hour ago, Darth evil said:

 sorry but the Empire needs better answers than Focus, because this weekend Vader and Soontir Focused a lot and it didn't stop them from dying. In fact in many games they both died with the token sitting there, it comes down to the fact that the designers  let us down when the thought that token stacking was a problem and went and gave it to the Scum faction, and then they decided boost and Evade are too strong on Vader but lets give those actions to the Hawk, ffs i saw a hawk boost and Vader is sitting there thinking "what am i doing in this POS"

Vader and Soontir are both pretty strong right now. I'd evaluate how you are flying them if they are getting nuked off the board like that. Soontir is a budget ace now anyway, so he really shouldn't be a centerpiece of the list.

The HWK doesn't have evade or barrel roll, and the boost is red pending EU. Its a super strong ship right now, but its not completely broken.

Empire is in a great position at the moment.

1 hour ago, dsul413 said:

Vader and Soontir are both pretty strong right now. I'd evaluate how you are flying them if they are getting nuked off the board like that. Soontir is a budget ace now anyway, so he really shouldn't be a centerpiece of the list.

The HWK doesn't have evade or barrel roll, and the boost is red pending EU. Its a super strong ship right now, but its not completely broken.

Empire is in a great position at the moment.

they where getting nuked by Barrage Bombers with a Reaper toting Sloane, Trick Shot Dash who has no donut hole to hide in and carries Bistan or Han around,

2 hours ago, Darth evil said:

sorry but the Empire needs better answers than Focus, because this weekend Vader and Soontir Focused a lot and it didn't stop them from dying. In fact in many games they both died with the token sitting there, it comes down to the fact that the designers let us down when the thought that token stacking was a problem and went and gave it to the Scum faction, and then they decided boost and Evade are too strong on Vader but lets give those actions to the Hawk, ffs i saw a hawk boost and Vader is sitting there thinking "what am i doing in this POS"

5 hours ago, Darth evil said:

sorry but the Empire needs better answers than Focus, because this weekend Vader and Soontir Focused a lot and it didn't stop them from dying. In fact in many games they both died with the token sitting there, it comes down to the fact that the designers let us down when the thought that token stacking was a problem and went and gave it to the Scum faction, and then they decided boost and Evade are too strong on Vader but lets give those actions to the Hawk, ffs i saw a hawk boost and Vader is sitting there thinking "what am i doing in this POS"

I just won a smallish second edition format tournament going undefeated in the 4 rounds of swiss with an empire build... (was all rebel except for 2x empire builds and 2x scum builds... luke+wedge on every **** table)

get good? (i hate to be mean, but loosing is usually not because your faction is weaker than the others. 9/10 times its bad list building combined with bad decision making)

Empire feels fine to me. In casual games I have yet to lose a game running soontir he is a beast, and my personal opinion is that the generic inquisitor is the best ship in the game.

It feels like to me the empire is a high skill ceiling low skill floor faction, when you make a mistake with them it's much more punishing however they reward good flying, soontir is a great example of this.

9 hours ago, Darth evil said:

sorry but the Empire needs better answers than Focus, because this weekend Vader and Soontir Focused a lot and it didn't stop them from dying. In fact in many games they both died with the token sitting there, it comes down to the fact that the designers let us down when the thought that token stacking was a problem and went and gave it to the Scum faction, and then they decided boost and Evade are too strong on Vader but lets give those actions to the Hawk, ffs i saw a hawk boost and Vader is sitting there thinking "what am i doing in this POS"

When Vader has built in (With upgrades) Adv Sensors and PTL and a HWK is outflying you, you might be flying it wrong. Vader is very strong atm. He is very hard to block and he can K turn with full mods. He is very good.

I think every game I've played in 2.0, mostly with Empire, I was able to see after a defeat, where my manoeuvres had let me down. Or where my list was just not working together, putting too much work on pieces that were just not equipped to deal with it.

There's always a clutch point where your choice of manoeuvres led down a blind alley or dragged something out of position. If you can see that point, rewind to where it started and look at what your other options were. I normally spot my mistake and can see how I might've set up the situation better, or just avoided it.

One this wknd, where I got creamed, all boiled down to my 2nd turn, I knew what I wanted to do and had made the right choice there, but my 2nd set of dials had not set up the situation I was looking for properly. So 3rd and 4th turn, I was not at the range and angle I needed to be to come out on top. My opponent was smart, if he hadn't been, I might have got away with it and never seen my error.

There's strong options in Empire but it is easy to combine them badly and then just fly them into big trouble.

A clever player, who knows his list, knows where he's going and why, will win 2.0 games with any of the factions from what I've seen.

20 hours ago, Darth evil said:

Vader  and  Soon  tir  

Well I share you’re pain with Soontir. The TIE/in requires good skills to fly well. I lack them so stick to Strikers or Barrage Bombers. Vader... well he’s OK. Just takes up a lot of your list points wise. I find he works well with a mini swarm of TIE/ln.

56 minutes ago, Sasajak said:

Well I share you’re pain with Soontir. The TIE/in requires good skills to fly well. I lack them so stick to Strikers or Barrage Bombers. Vader... well he’s OK. Just takes up a lot of your list points wise. I find he works well with a mini swarm of TIE/ln.

He is a great ship (Mr. Fel), very fun to fly and preforms well.

I have not actually flown bombers in second yet, obsessed with interceptors, tie advanced V1, phantoms and the little old tie/ln some of those ln pilots are pure awesomeness.

5x interceptors is to much fun and very good, hard to put that down for a bomber that fly's like a potato.

13 hours ago, Archangelspiv said:

When Vader has built in (With upgrades) Adv Sensors and PTL and a HWK is outflying you, you might be flying it wrong. Vader is very strong atm. He is very hard to block and he can K turn with full mods. He is very good.

i never said a Hawk outflew me, i played 3 hawks in 4 games and destroyed 2 out of the 3, i'm simply saying that it is crazy to see that ship with boost and not the X1

It's gotta be a good indication the game designers have got it reasonably right when there's whining from each faction that they are underpowered and hard done by

On 10/28/2018 at 8:39 PM, Darth evil said:

sorry but the Empire needs better answers than Focus, because this weekend Vader and Soontir Focused a lot and it didn't stop them from dying. In fact in many games they both died with the token sitting there, it comes down to the fact that the designers let us down when the thought that token stacking was a problem and went and gave it to the Scum faction, and then they decided boost and Evade are too strong on Vader but lets give those actions to the Hawk, ffs i saw a hawk boost and Vader is sitting there thinking "what am i doing in this POS"

Wow.

You're really, really not using Vader's Target Lock ability to its fullest? What, focus is your target action with Vader? You need to do that, when you can barrel roll and TL or focus to your heart's content? For real?

Come on dude. Even I can fly an x1.

Don't be so sad.

Vader is good but expensive

Soontir is good but needs good flying

I think that is/should be the spirit of second edition "X is good but ..."

(Although I do feel tha the x1 is a little underwhelming at the end)

On 10/28/2018 at 8:08 PM, dsul413 said:

The HWK doesn't have evade or barrel roll, and the boost is red pending EU. Its a super strong ship right now, but its not completely broken.

HWK can pick up Evade for 2 points with Debris Gambit, and Engine Upgrade for 3 points may as well be stapled onto the card.