27 minutes ago, Ghostofman said:

Even then, unless there's some rock solid "these dudes can't be Jedi" decree on the books in the story group's manual, it's a good bet it's only matter of time before some novelist, cartoonist, or comicbook writer decides to make something about Chippy the sole Jedi of his species.

That's it, I want a Purrgil Jedi

2 minutes ago, Varlie said:

That's it, I want a Purrgil Jedi

I was trying to avoid that, but it's probably technically possible.

Wouldn't take much for some hack to make the argument that the Purrgil navigate by Instinctive Astrogation or Intuitive Navigation, or some other such Force ability, then argue that Purrgil are intelligent and that's why Ezra could communicate so easily with them, and then spin the tale of how some other goofy oversized species that was a Jedi decided to take a Purrgil as a Padawan... because reasons... and bam, Purrgil Jedi.

It's one of those things. I was kinda hoping that Disney would police up such nonsense like this that made the EU so goofy, but the Ewok Uber-hacker in the Solo coat-tail novel pretty much says it's only a matter of time before we get a totally new, equally silly EU.

Unfortunately, I agree completely with your post

14 minutes ago, Ghostofman said:

it's only a matter of time before we get a totally new, equally silly EU.

We're already there.

22 minutes ago, HappyDaze said:

We're already there.

While I understand your distaste for heli-sabers, that's nothing compared to the EU at large. A silly gadget here and there is nothing compared to the power of a stupid story with characters that keep popping back up as one hack tries to legitimize himself by referencing another hack.

That was the EU's real weakness. Author A would create something new in a fairly low-key way that's acceptable in his good-but-not-great story as a way to avoid referencing the films too much. Author B would write a mediocre story and reference A's thing, while building upon it in a way that's not really needed, but he needed someone/something that could address some issue he didn't have the skill to write out of. Author C would make garbage, and reference A's thing, in B's way, and then blow it totally out of proportion to fit his novel which was actually originally a terrible story he wrote for an entirely different setting and then merely adapted to Star Wars when he got the gig. Wookieepedia would make C "canon" and only a handful remember it as the A version that made any kind of GD sense.

2 hours ago, Aluminium Falcon said:

Regarding Toydarians, there is immunity (essentially a passive power) and there is resistance (a tendency away from weak-mindedness).
While I wouldn't call Watto "strong minded", per se, I would call him "single minded" where deals are concerned (hello little blue dice). Generations of tales about shrewd Toydarians unswayed by Jedi trickery could easily give rise to boasts of out and out immunity when, really, its more like Earth stories such as:

Further, Toydarian King Katuunko was murdered by a Force Choke so, Watto's boast aside, any actually immunites to the Force itself would be limited at best.

Except that Toydarians aren't immune to the Force as a whole, just to mind influencing powers; specifically, the Influence power.

3 minutes ago, Tramp Graphics said:

Except that Toydarians aren't immune to the Force as a whole, just to mind influencing powers; specifically, the Influence power.

Ah, thank you. So FFG went with "limited". Well there you go.

I didn't know that Toydarians were out there already. What book is that?

43 minutes ago, Aluminium Falcon said:

Ah, thank you. So FFG went with "limited". Well there you go.

I didn't know that Toydarians were out there already. What book is that?

It's not so much FFG that went "limited" so much as it's canon that Toydarians are immune to Jedi Mind tricks, as are Hutts, and a handful of other species. It's been in the lore, including Path of the Jedi , and TPM, among other sources, long before FFG got the license. Path of the Jedi specfically mentions a number of species which have resistance or full immunity to one or more Force powers.

For Toydarians' FFG stats, look in Enter the Unknown page 23. Their resistance/immunity to mind affecting Force powers is mentioned in their descriptive text. To quote:

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Physiology : Toydarians have smallinsh, squat bodies that perpetually hover over the ground, thanks to a pair of wings on their back and an abundance of natural gasses absorbed into their frames. Stubby protruding snouts dominate their craggy faces, and their spindly arms and legs end with three fingers and three toes respectively. One of their most interesting physiological features has to do with their brains; they are completely immune to any manipulations via the Force.

@Aluminium Falcon there's a sidebar in Ghosts of Dathomir about the Toydarian resistance to mind tricks.

37 minutes ago, Eoen said:

@Aluminium Falcon there's a sidebar in Ghosts of Dathomir about the Toydarian resistance to mind tricks.

Yep. It's on page 19 and reads:

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Toydarians and the Force

One of the most unusual aspects of Toydarians has nothing to do with their exterior appearance. Rather, it concerns the makeup of their brains. Toydarian brains contain a little known but very powerful feature that makes them completely immune to any mental manipulation via the Force. This does not, though, negate physical powers such as Move or Bind from affecting them.

PCs can recall this fact through an Average Knowledge (Lore) check, or Hard Knowledge (Xenology) check. Otherwise they may be in for an unpleasant surprise when they try to use Misdirect , or Influence on the natives of Toydaria.