On 10/26/2018 at 6:43 PM, ErikModi said:Tramp, chill.
Seconded.
Which species, generally speaking, cannot or do not become Jedi?
@LordBritish There's definitely a red Nikto Jedi General in the Clone Wars cartoon, I would say there is no political barrier that the Jedi seekers would acknowledge when it comes to the children of the Force. They seem to view themselves as the sole Galactic caretakers fo the force sensitives. Because if they are not the dark side is always there waiting to claim the sensitives they miss.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ima-Gun_Di
Of course his name is pronounce Im a-gun Die
Edited by Eoen57 minutes ago, Eoen said:@LordBritish There's definitely a red Nikto Jedi General in the Clone Wars cartoon, I would say there is no political barrier that the Jedi seekers would acknowledge when it comes to the children of the Force. They seem to view themselves as the sole Galactic carmakers fo the force sensitives. Because if they are not the dark side is always there waiting to claim the sensitives they miss.
Exactly.
@Harlock999 There has to be male Devaronian at least at some point, since there is a Jedi temple on the planet.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Temple_of_Eedit
Edited by Eoen6 minutes ago, Eoen said:@Harlock999 There has to be male Devaronian at least at some point, since there is a Jedi temple on the planet.
Yep. The Nexus of Power sourcebook does state that female Devaronians were more common among the Jedi than males, but not because of any lack of Force sensitivity among males. Rather, the inherent wanderlust so common among male Devaronians made the rigid training regimens required for Jedi training more difficult to maintain. That didn’t mean that male Devaronians never became Jedi, however.
On 10/25/2018 at 7:02 PM, ErikModi said:the Yuuzhan Vong were disconnected from the Force, so neither could be Force-Sensitive at al l ,
About that
9 hours ago, Yaccarus said:About that
Yeah, I wasn't going to say how that arc ended.....
Mind, most times I try to pretend the Yuuzhan Vong never existed.
1 hour ago, Hchar said:Yeah, I wasn't going to say how that arc ended.....
Mind, most times I try to pretend the Yuuzhan Vong never existed.
The Yuuzhan Vong are why I prefer Disney Canon.
37 minutes ago, Eoen said:The Yuuzhan Vong are why I prefer Disney Canon.
I can accept an amphistaff with less brain melt than a flight-enabling helicopter lightsaber.
2 hours ago, Hchar said:Yeah, I wasn't going to say how that arc ended.....
Mind, most times I try to pretend the Yuuzhan Vong never existed.
I took a sabbatical around the time the Yuuzhan Vong were kicking off in the novels. Never read anything in the book line that included them. I enjoyed Legacy in the Dark Horse comics, and that kind of had some echoes of YV, but was entirely acceptable.
25 minutes ago, HappyDaze said:
...than a flight-enabling helicopter lightsaber.
That was truly silly and not part of my canon campaign.
As I see it, you are GM. If you want/don't want something, whether canon or not, then put it to the table if you think its going to shake the game up too much. If the players a cool with it then off you go!
I will never have a Jawa or Ewok Jedi in my games, and I love that they are not playable races (so far) so that kills that.
32 minutes ago, Andreievitch said:That was truly silly and not part of my canon campaign.
As I see it, you are GM. If you want/don't want something, whether canon or not, then put it to the table if you think its going to shake the game up too much. If the players a cool with it then off you go!
I will never have a Jawa or Ewok Jedi in my games, and I love that they are not playable races (so far) so that kills that.
We use the USM in our campaign, which does include unofficial stats for both of those species. One of the players is, in fact, playing a Force using Jawa.
8 hours ago, HappyDaze said:
I can accept an amphistaff with less brain melt than a flight-enabling helicopter lightsaber.
Exo-Galatic Aliens who conquered their Galaxy wiping out all other sentient life and the they just decided to pack up most of their civilization, and conquer their neighboring galaxy. How do you control two galaxy's when you need a generation ship to travel between them? What's their motivation, their nutzo religion. Are they just going to wipe out all life in the universe traveling from one galaxy to another like locusts?
What happens when the Vong from the first galaxy try to exert control over the leadership of the second one?
Helicopter sabers when combined with force leap and repulsor tech? Anti-gravity isn't so hard to believe when the mandalorians have jet packs that can perform as well as shuttle craft.
Edited by EoenOn 10/25/2018 at 8:29 PM, Edgookin said:Don't forget the Toydarians. They are specifically immune to force manipulation, which should preclude force sensitivity.
Says one shady Toydarian when one jedi failed a mind trick on them in one canonical reference. One wonders how, if the toydarin was incapable of Force-sensitivity, did it know that the jedi was trying such a trick? Makes one wonder.... I won't again get into this argument but in my mind there is reasonable doubt.
2 minutes ago, themensch said:Says one shady Toydarian when one jedi failed a mind trick on them in one canonical reference. One wonders how, if the toydarin was incapable of Force-sensitivity, did it know that the jedi was trying such a trick? Makes one wonder.... I won't again get into this argument but in my mind there is reasonable doubt.
The hand wave is a dead give away for the mind trick.
1 hour ago, themensch said:Says one shady Toydarian when one jedi failed a mind trick on them in one canonical reference. One wonders how, if the toydarin was incapable of Force-sensitivity, did it know that the jedi was trying such a trick? Makes one wonder.... I won't again get into this argument but in my mind there is reasonable doubt.
1 hour ago, Eoen said:The hand wave is a dead give away for the mind trick.
Being immune to Jedi Mind manipulation does not, in and of itself, preclude Force sensitivity. And, of course the “hand wave” is not necessary to use Influence either. Luke didn’t wave his hand when he used the power inRotJ, and Rey didn’t wave hers in TFA.
@Tramp Graphics
The
indicates its a joke.
7 minutes ago, Eoen said:@Tramp Graphics The
I know. ?
5 hours ago, Tramp Graphics said:Luke didn’t wave his hand when he used the power inRotJ
Actually he did; at least when he first activated it.
How about a Geonosian? I have a soft spot for the little buggers.
Double post.
2 hours ago, Vorzakk said:Actually he did; at least when he first activated it.
Nope. He he initially pointed his fingers at Bob Fortuna, but in the throne room, all he did was remove his hood.
2 hours ago, Demon4x4 said:How about a Geonosian? I have a soft spot for the little buggers.
Maybe. But their a hive species, its doubtful any of the drones have the will to use the force, also they’re extinct after the dark times.
The catalyst book suggests they are able to rise up the ranks of their society, which means they change pyshology as the arch duke looks a lot different than a drone.
15 minutes ago, Eoen said:Maybe. But their a hive species, its doubtful any of the drones have the will to use the force, also they’re extinct after the dark times.
The catalyst book suggests they are able to rise up the ranks of their society, which means they change pyshology as the arch duke looks a lot different than a drone.
It's stuff like this and the Vong mention that are the reason I'm thinking pretty much every sapient species in the galaxy is capable of becoming a Jedi (possibly even a few near misses as well if you consider dudes like Pic a "Jedi" or close enough).
The number of species that 100% across the species 100% across history had no members ever that were force sensitive in some way is probably so small you can count them on one hand. There's always going to be that one guy/gal that became a Jedi at some point.
There's lots of hurdles that specific species may have to overcome that would keep the number of true, actual, temple trained, brown robe wearing, Jedi low. But you're going to be hard pressed to find a species that is both sapient and not force connected in any way shape or for ever in their entire history.
Even then, unless there's some rock solid "these dudes can't be Jedi" decree on the books in the story group's manual, it's a good bet it's only matter of time before some novelist, cartoonist, or comicbook writer decides to make something about Chippy the sole Jedi of his species.
Regarding Toydarians, there is immunity (essentially a passive power) and there is resistance (a tendency away from weak-mindedness).
While I wouldn't call Watto "strong minded", per se, I would call him "single minded" where
deals
are concerned (hello little blue dice). Generations of tales about shrewd Toydarians unswayed by Jedi trickery could easily give rise to boasts of out and out immunity when, really, its more like Earth stories such as:
QuoteYou know, Sicilians are great liars. The best in the world. I'm Sicilian. My father was the world heavyweight champion of Sicilian liars. From growin' up with him I learned the pantomime. There are seventeen different things a guy can do when he lies to give himself away. A guy's got seventeen pantomimes. A woman's got twenty, a guy's got seventeen. But if you know 'em like you know your own face, they beat lie detectors all to ****. - from "True Romance"
Further, Toydarian King Katuunko was murdered by a Force Choke so, Watto's boast aside, any actually immunites to the Force itself would be limited at best.
Edited by Aluminium Falcon