I'm wanting to run two starvipers. They can really be unpredictable with advanced sensors. But how do you get them two actions with advanced sensors? Coordinate of course. One of the vipers can get two actions before doing a maneuver. The Dalan can turn 90 degrees with actions. It still might be action starved at the end of the day. Any suggestions to make it better?

StarViper-class Attack Platform - •Dalan Oberos - 68
•Dalan Oberos - Elite Bounty Hunter (54)
Outmaneuver (6)
Advanced Sensors (8)

HWK-290 Light Freighter - •Palob Godalhi - 56
•Palob Godalhi - Tethan Resister (38)
•Squad Leader (4)
Tactical Officer (2)
•Moldy Crow (12)

StarViper-class Attack Platform - •Guri - 76
•Guri - Prince Xizor’s Bodyguard (62)
Outmaneuver (6)
Advanced Sensors (8)

Total: 200/200

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4 hours ago, Jonathan Gabel said:

I'm wanting to run two starvipers. They can really be unpredictable with advanced sensors. But how do you get them two actions with advanced sensors? Coordinate of course. One of the vipers can get two actions before doing a maneuver. The Dalan can turn 90 degrees with actions. It still might be action starved at the end of the day. Any suggestions to make it better?

StarViper-class Attack Platform - •Dalan Oberos - 68
•Dalan Oberos - Elite Bounty Hunter (54)
Outmaneuver (6)
Advanced Sensors (8)

HWK-290 Light Freighter - •Palob Godalhi - 56
•Palob Godalhi - Tethan Resister (38)
•Squad Leader (4)
Tactical Officer (2)
•Moldy Crow (12)

StarViper-class Attack Platform - •Guri - 76
•Guri - Prince Xizor’s Bodyguard (62)
Outmaneuver (6)
Advanced Sensors (8)

Total: 200/200

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I have a list with Dalan and Guri that I haven't tried yet, where I drop Palob for Lando in the Escape Pod with tactical officer. Guri gets afterburners and Virago (extra shield), and Dalan gets predator instead of outmaneuver. The list goes to 189p, which might be too much bid, but I really think Guri should move after all those I5...

I don't think Dalan Oberos's ability and I4 is worth paying for.

Squad leader is a bit limited in that you won't be able co-ordinate barrel rolls for both or calculate for Guri. The escape shuttle option may be better for this purpose.

10 hours ago, Oldpara said:

I don't think Dalan Oberos's ability and I4 is worth paying for.

Same. Save six points and get a Black Sun Assassin if you want a Talent slot for Outmaneuver, or get a 2 point cheaper blocking Black Sun Enforcer.

5 hours ago, Ikka said:

Same. Save six points and get a Black Sun Assassin if you want a Talent slot for Outmaneuver, or get a 2 point cheaper blocking Black Sun Enforcer.

This. I didn't tested it yet, but I think Black Sun Assassin has some legs. Ini3 and curved barell rolls makes him excellent cheap Ace against low Ini ships (Bombers mostly) and excellent blocker against other ships. Of course if we compare Assasins 48 pts to 50 pts Moldy Crow Palob power lvl difference is huge, but we're talking about themed Starviper-based list.

I've flown Dalan for a few times. Suprisingly his ability is useful, even if he has lower initiavive than enemy ships. It gives You unique option to change facing, something that no one can achieve. It moves blocking to another level, especially with Adv. Sensors onboard. Please bear in mind that his role is blocking and annoying, not purely dogfighting. This makes him a good team mate for any ace You are fancy fielding. As a result I'm not putting an offensive talent on him. I fancy Debris Gambit a lot or even Composure can be added as a level of "security" for those curved barrel rolls One thing I need to test is Daredevil. Now there is a plethora f movement possibilities available

Assassins are stripped down versions of Guri. I see them as budget dogfighters, which are at thier best with little upgrades (so no Adv. Sensors for them), ex. a cheap talent plus Fire Control System.

Two starvipers? Why not three?

Black Sun Assassin (48)
Predator (2)
Fire-Control System (3)

Black Sun Assassin (48)
Predator (2)
Fire-Control System (3)

Guri (62)
Outmaneuver (6)
Advanced Sensors (8)
Virago (10)

Total: 192

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On 10/24/2018 at 6:41 PM, Oldpara said:

I don't think Dalan Oberos's ability and I4 is worth paying for.

I agree. If his ability would turn the maneuver to a red one, you could at least recharge elusive. But the way it is written...

13 hours ago, flooze said:

I agree. If his ability would turn the maneuver to a red one, you could at least recharge elusive. But the way it is written...

Especially that with curved barrel roll you can turn 45' so half of the Dalan s ability without stress or with linked focus. Maybe 180' on every maneuver would be worth.

1 hour ago, Oldpara said:

Especially that with curved barrel roll you can turn 45' so half of the Dalan s ability without stress or with linked focus. Maybe 180' on every maneuver would be worth.

At that point it would be worth it, because then you have a dizzying array of k-turns and sloops to use.