New OP article up today + kit contents

By hargleblarg, in X-Wing

Battle of Yavin seems to highly favor imperials. Between supernatural vader and tie swarms, the empire has several viable list archetypes to take to competition. Meanwhile, I don't think Hanfalcon or the y-wings offer a lot competitively, so it feels like rebels will be leaning heavily on X Wings.

Double Tap Y-Wings might be competitive at some point but yeah, maybe not. It'd be funny to see something like a 5 y-wing list win, though.

I agree that Rebels likely will rely heavily on X-Wings, with maybe 1 Y-Wing supporting.

It also says, "among other ships" so we may be seeing some stuff that exists in canon before Yavin show up.

I wonder if the quickbuild tourney will only allow the quickbuilds that have physically been printed, just wave 1 ships. I imagine that would probably be the case. It doesn't strictly say that but it makes sense. I wonder how those will work in follow up waves.

7 minutes ago, CaptainIxidor said:

Double Tap Y-Wings might be competitive at some point but yeah, maybe not. It'd be funny to see something like a 5 y-wing list win, though.

I agree that Rebels likely will rely heavily on X-Wings, with maybe 1 Y-Wing supporting.

It also says, "among other ships" so we may be seeing some stuff that exists in canon before Yavin show up.

I wonder if the quickbuild tourney will only allow the quickbuilds that have physically been printed, just wave 1 ships. I imagine that would probably be the case. It doesn't strictly say that but it makes sense. I wonder how those will work in follow up waves.

Stuff that exists before yavin? Which in this new canon means auzitucks, a wings, b wings, u wings and basically everything else short of e and k wings.

PAGE NOT FOUND error. Looks like they took it down.

Anybody save any screenshots?

I'm curious as to how the full art Iden Versio quick-build prize card has given her access to a Target Lock action and how she has Proton Torpedoes equipped.

The different formats all look fun and the prizes for each look pretty cool. I don't really care for the quick-build tournament prizes, as I don't see myself using them outside of said tournament, but at least they're full art. All the full art stuff is looking great.

Edited by Derpzilla88

Nice typo on the Fang Fighter...

1 minute ago, TyrusVox said:

Nice typo on the Fang Fighter...

Not just the marksmenship, but the markswomenship and the markschildrenship too

Am I the only one getting an error from FFG's website for just this page?

Edit: NVM, I guess my wifi doesn't like that particular URL for some reason.

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3 minutes ago, Derpzilla88 said:

I'm curious as to how the full art Iden Versio quick-build prize card has given her access to a Target Lock action and how she has Proton Torpedoes equipped.

It would be more interesting/challenging for her to have proton torpedoes without target lock action :) It'll still be somewhat usable. Sometimes ;)

10 minutes ago, TyrusVox said:

Nice typo on the Fang Fighter...

I was just coming here to point that out.

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I think the patronage card is a pretty nifty idea. Buy where you play!

19 minutes ago, Derpzilla88 said:

I'm curious as to how the full art Iden Versio quick-build prize card has given her access to a Target Lock action and how she has Proton Torpedoes equipped.

The different formats all look fun and the prizes for each look pretty cool. I don't really care for the quick-build tournament prizes, as I don't see myself using them outside of said tournament, but at least they're full art. All the full art  stuff is looking great.

Its almost like when Iden was getting ready to launch some technicians come over and just hand her a couple Proton Torpedoes.

I think the quick builds are more concerned about fun builds as opposed to tournament legal builds. Who doesn't want to roll 4 red die with a tie at range 2 or 3?

17 minutes ago, reqent said:

I think the quick builds are more concerned about fun builds as opposed to tournament legal builds. Who doesn't want to roll 4 red die with a tie at range 2 or 3?

But does Iden fire her proton torpedos if another Iden is in the enemies list?

7 minutes ago, wurms said:

But does Iden fire her proton torpedos if another Iden is in the enemies list?

Absolutely. Force that Iden trigger. It's not likely you'd ever have more than 2 opportunities to launch Iden's torps anyway.

Is the Skull Squadron's APT getting 2 charges a typo or an intentional feature?

11 minutes ago, Transmogrifier said:

Is the Skull Squadron's APT getting 2 charges a typo or an intentional feature?

Given that quick builds break the rules, I'd rule it intentional unless started otherwise

Can we stop with this quick build, thematic, and wave only bull please? At this point I almost wish I didn't buy into 2.0 because I just want to play standard tournaments without banlists. I thought the whole point of going to electronic point values and such was to make it so any issues with balance could be resolved quickly and we could play standard tournaments to our hearts content. I don't want to be restricted to stupid quick builds, thematic lists, or a small subset of the ships that are playable. If I want thematic or fun stuff I'll play casually at the store or at home with friends and make our own rules up. I don't need FFG to do that for me. I do need FFG to release an actual tournament ruleset though. Coruscant was a complete joke with the required crowdsourced upgrades crap.

This is of course assuming the Wave Championship is ships up to that wave only, which seems implied but not implicitly stated.

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7 minutes ago, Hoffburger said:

Can we stop with this quick build, thematic, and wave only bull please? At this point I almost wish I didn't buy into 2.0 because I just want to play standard tournaments without banlists. I thought the whole point of going to electronic point values and such was to make it so any issues with balance could be resolved quickly and we could play standard tournaments to our hearts content. I don't want to be restricted to stupid quick builds, thematic lists, or a small subset of the ships that are playable. If I want thematic or fun stuff I'll play casually at the store or at home with friends and make our own rules up. I don't need FFG to do that for me. I do need FFG to release an actual tournament ruleset though. Coruscant was a complete joke with the required crowdsourced upgrades crap.

This is of course assuming the Wave Championship is  ships up to  that wave   only, which  seems  implied  but not implicitly stated. 

I'm one of those people who likes quick builds, and thematic tournaments, but you're right. It's very annoying to know that 2nd ed is here, but we can't just build lists and fly them without making sure that what we've built isn't on some kind of ban list. the official 2nd Ed format really isn't all that fun for me (I run Rebels so my options feel a little underwhelming atm) and extended just isn't supported by my LGS yet. Then there's the problem of the to be released factions, FO in particular would be almost unplayable if they had to put up with the same 2nd Ed format restrictions the other factions are struggling with now. (seriously just one ship? I don't even run them and that annoys me)

Formats are good, and I do want them to be in this game, but they really need to iron out what those formats should be, and how restrictive is too restrictive, or not restrictive enough. Battle of Yavin and other iconic battles is a good idea, but just looking at that format on the app, there are very odd inclusions. literally every tie advanced pilot but Vader is removed for flavor reasons, with every rebel ship getting a similar but more restrained treatment, but at the same time the empire has all their Lambda pilots, and all their Tie/ln pilots. I just don't understand what they're doing. if you want it to be thematic, awesome do it, but this isn't thematic. it's playing at being thematic but stopping short, apparently to allow for more squad building options or something, even though the whole point of this format is to mimic a very specific battle from the movies.

Also gotta agree with you on Coruscant. Completely useless as anything but a marketing ploy. if you wanted to see what's competitive on the Empire, then good for you, but everyone else gets the shaft.

4 hours ago, hargleblarg said:

Battle of Yavin seems to highly favor imperials. Between supernatural vader and tie swarms, the empire has several viable list archetypes to take to competition. Meanwhile, I don't think Hanfalcon or the y-wings offer a lot competitively, so it feels like rebels will be leaning heavily on X Wings.

Triple proton carriers is a reasonably solid list for rebels. Luke is easily their best pilot in this format, but keep an eye out for wedge, dutch and garven

16 minutes ago, Hippie Moosen said:

(I run Rebels so my options feel a little underwhelming atm)

Popular opinion seems to be that this will be the case regardless of format. We simply can't be sure without seeing what they have in mind for Hyperspace. Don't worry, neither the FO or the Resistance will be limited to only one legal ship. They will simply include the strong majority of the Resistance and FO conversion kits in even their more restrictive formats. Even the preview articles have suggested as much. All other conversion kits were hopefully designed with restricted Hyperspace events and World Championships in mind.

The restrictive formats are there to allow newer players without extended collections to compete.

Edited by Kanawolf

STAAAHP trying to make quickbuilds happen!!! They are fine for little Timmy trying out his new toys, but loot for players playing competetive X-wing?

I wondering if they made it 'too many ways to play.'