What happens if my opponent doesn't have any card in his hand?

Then your character will bow, as you revealed the card with the lowest cost.

Also, could you please remove the [Ruling] from your topic.
I'm trying to keep that for keeping track of official developer rulings that I receive from FFG.

Wouldn't my opponent bow since he showed nothing?

Since in maths, nothing has a numerical value of zero?

3 minutes ago, timezero said:

Wouldn't my opponent bow since he showed nothing?

Since in maths, nothing has a numerical value of zero?

No, your opponent didn't reveal a card at all. Not even a card with no cost (which might or might not count as the card with the lowest count). From the card's text:

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Each player who reveals the lowest cost card bows his or her chosen character.

13 minutes ago, timezero said:

Wouldn't my opponent bow since he showed nothing?

Since in maths, nothing has a numerical value of zero?

Also, non-existent does not inherently have a numerical value of zero. There's a difference between having a value of zero and not having a value at all.*

*This would change if a rule was added to the RRG to have the game treat this situation as revealing a card with value of 0, but I don't expect that to happen.

A developper ruling on that would be really appreciated. I created a situation for my opponent to have no card in hand and I get punished for it, that makes absolutely no sense at all.

In ALL other games, this discussion wouldn't even happen. My opponent would be considered to show a cost of 0

7 hours ago, timezero said:

What happens if my opponent doesn't have any card in his hand?

Did you send this question to the rules question link or just post it here. i only ask as they rules team doesn't actively monitor this forum for question so you should submit it on this form as well.

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/contact/rules/

4 minutes ago, timezero said:

A developper ruling on that would be really appreciated. I created a situation for my opponent to have no card in hand and I get punished for it, that makes absolutely no sense at all.

In ALL other games, this discussion wouldn't even happen. My opponent would be considered to show a cost of 0

I mean, you only get punished for it if you choose to play a card with entirely predictable results in that situation. Your opponent did not reveal a card, so they cannot possibly have revealed a card with the lowest cost.

Analogy:

My friend and I have a basket of apples. My friend eats and apple and I do not. The question is asked: who ate the smallest apple? The fact that I didn't eat any apples does not qualify me as having eaten the smallest apple.

4 hours ago, Schmoozies said:

Did you send this question to the rules question link or just post it here. i only ask as they rules team doesn't actively monitor this forum for question so you should submit it on this form as well.

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/contact/rules/

Someone has, and has submitted it to my webform to collect the rulings.

I just have to get through a short backlog before uploading the question/answer here and on 5RDB.

3 minutes ago, Bayushi Shunsuke said:

Someone has, and has submitted it to my webform to collect the rulings.

I just have to get through a short backlog before uploading the question/answer here and on 5RDB.

Good to hear

13 hours ago, Schmoozies said:

Did you send this question to the rules question link or just post it here. i only ask as they rules team doesn't actively monitor this forum for question so you should submit it on this form as well.

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/contact/rules/

I did send the question. We'll wait for the official answer then. Both sides have good arguments for them.

The real question would be: is the intended behavior what is written on the card?

FFG has not a good record in that department.

As I posted above, we already have a developer ruling.
But to ensure consistency in the rulings given, when you get your answer, can you please submit them to https://form.jotform.co/82138997823875

It's the same logic as dash skills against Outwit or Rout: since the value is undefined it cannot be compared, therefore is neither greater than, less than, equal to or anything else.

8 hours ago, Tonbo Karasu said:

It's the same logic as dash skills against Outwit or Rout: since the value is undefined it cannot be compared, therefore is neither greater than, less than, equal to or anything else.

It's not. A dash is treated as 0 for numerical comparison, because the Rules Reference says so.

On 10/23/2018 at 10:07 AM, timezero said:

A developper ruling on that would be really appreciated. I created a situation for my opponent to have no card in hand and I get punished for it, that makes absolutely no sense at all.

In ALL other games, this discussion wouldn't even happen. My opponent would be considered to show a cost of 0

I'm pretty sure that in all other games this is the opposite of correct. MTG has cards like Stronghold Gambit, which will always put your creature into play when your opponent has no hand, and Hearthstone has the Joust mechanic which always wins when your opponent has no minions left in their deck (even when you would reveal a 0 cost like Wisp).

btw what happens when both reveal equal value? Both bow?

9 minutes ago, Yogo Rye X said:

btw what happens when both reveal equal value? Both bow?

https://fiveringsdb.com/card/offer-testimony

If both players reveal a card with the same cost, both characters will bow. ('Each player' indicates multiple players can be affected)