Good afternoon everyone, I’m considering the following list based on either ships I love to fly and those I never got the chance to in 1.0. Here’s my list:

Fenn Rau - I6 (68 pts)

• Swarm Tactics - 3 pts

Old Teroch - I5 (56 pts)

• Fearless - 3 pts

4-LOM - I3 (49 pts)

• Elusive - 3 pts
• Advanced Sensors - 8 pts
• 0-0-0 - 3 pts
• Mist Hunter - 2 pts

TOTAL POINTS: 195 (5 pt bid)

The thought is that Fenn doesn’t need much to make him hit like a truck and then Old T gets up close and personal to strip tokens. The ideal situation is to try and keep 4-LOM close and take full advantage of Swarm Tactics and bump him to I6. Being a medium base, he has the possibility of staying closer to Fenn and taking full advantage on ST. I know there are better Talents for Fenn (ie. Outmaneuver) but this option sounds fun to always keep my opponent guessing. Can this list do well? Any thought or critiques would be greatly appreciated.

A friend of mine has been running that 4-LOM and it's really fun! If you can get it up close for the first engagement that build is really good control. Tbh I would throw Fearless on Fenn as I think you'll get more use out of it and Fenn would prefer to flank and get to the late game than have to stick by the G1-A.

My issue with Fangs is they tend to take damage from random like R3 potshots, and they REALLY hate barrage rockets, so changing Teroch to Palob might be a thing, but double fangs is fast and fun and Fenn still hits like a truck!

22 minutes ago, FriendofYoda said:

A   friend of mine has been running that 4-LOM and it's really fun! If you can get it up close for the first engagement that build is really good control. Tbh I would throw Fearless on Fenn as I think you'll get more use out of it and Fenn would prefer to flank and get to the late game than have to stick by the G1-A.  

Very good points. I have definitely considered adding Palob. I wasn’t sure which list to post but my very close second is Fenn with Fearless , 4-LOM staying the same and Palob as the following:

Palob Godalhi - I3 (38 pts)

• Elusive - 3 pts
• L3-37 - 4 pts
• Engine Upgrade - 3 pts
• Moldy Crow - 12 pts

NEW TOTAL POINTS = 196 (4 pt bid)

I’m not sold on needing EU, dropping it would give me a 7 pt bid and I’m not sure if Elusive is the right call in this list but it does give a little room for adjustment.

Lando crew is very good on Palob, that plus trick shot and a 5 point bid maybe?

Adv Sensor and Lando on 4Lom is all he needs!

i like the addition of swarm tactics to Fenn. You get a chance to one shot some I5 or less pilots. Basically everything except wedge, vader and other enemy Fenns.

Im a fan of Squadleader 1337 on Palob, specially with 4lom (since they share the jam action), or just plain Debrie Gambit.

@FriendofYoda , @7suns , @Da_Brown_Bomber , and @Muppetfluffer thank you for the comments. So after some tweaking I came up with this:

Fenn Rau - I6 (68 pts)

• Swarm Tactics - 3 pts (Or swap for fearless for no points difference)

Palob Godalhi - I3 (38 pts)

• Debris Gambit - 2 pts
• L3-37 - 4 pts
• Engine Upgrade - 3 pts
• Moldy Crow - 12 pts

4-LOM - I3 (49 pts)

• Elusive - 3 pts
• Advanced Sensors - 8 pts
• Lando Calrissian - 8 pts 

TOTAL POINTS: 198 (2 pt bid)

I could drop EU and/or Elusive for a 5-8 point bid but not sure I need to do that. I could also substitute Old Teroch w Fearless for Palob with no change to the total points and potentially have one round of two I6 shots followed by an I5. Any critiques on the new list?

rethinking swarm tactics. its reliant on having a ship close to fenn to abuse it. those other two guys are kinda slow and will have trouble hanging with fenn after 1st engagement. they could also hold him back early game and limit how you use him unless you execute a perfect flanking manuever with Fenn. Fearless isnt reliant on another ship and supports aggressive flying, thats what Fenn is best at.

I personally like Predator/Outmaneuver on Fenn Rau more. There's similar damage added on all of them (Predator is 0.75 damage if you're willing to spend focus, for 66% of the cost; Outmaneuver does cost more, but it works on the full arc and at any range, too...), but I'd much rather fly Fenn to be out-of-arc rather than in-arc. Old Terroch needs to be in arc, so Fearless seems best to me, but I prefer to get out on Fenn if I can.

A lot of these ships are strong (Fenn, Terroch, 4-LOM, Palob), so any way they fit together probably does OK. I keep hearing that Scum and Fenn Rau really need big bids, however. A lot of nice upgrades can possibly be cut.

And to toss another ship in here to complicate things, Kavil seems strong these days. Something like 63 points total for Expert Handling, Dorsal Turret, Proton Torpedoes, R4 Astromech, Han-gunner is going to be pretty solid. Double-mod Proton Torps at Init 5, 4-dice range 1 Dorsal Turret shots with at least Focus, etc etc. Not quite as good as Redline, but still. I'm sure any of these Aces tossed together will do at least decent.

18 hours ago, Da_Brown_Bomber said:

rethinking swarm tactics. its reliant on having a ship close to fenn to abuse it. those other two guys are kinda slow and will have trouble hanging with fenn after 1st engagement.

Agreed on being slow. I don't want to force an upgrade that will hinder more than help.

@theBitterFig , thanks for the comments. I guess it's a good problem to have several ships that can work together. It really seems to highligh how Scum squadrons can be a hodgepodge. If I add Outmaneuver to Fenn, Old T with Fearless, and take Kavil that would give me a 4 point bid. Do you think that's enough? If I take Predator that turns into an 8 point bid. There's also the choice of Lone Wolf for the end game and a 6 point bid.

So! Many! Choices!

I have no idea what's best, or how much of a bid is enough. That's part of what's fun. I was going to fly Kavil, but forgot the token and flew Palob instead. That said, my list used Kad Solus with Elusive. Defensive rerolls work best with focus tokens, and Kad will pretty much never be without focus tokens. My Outmaneuver Fenn owned, Palob got 86'd in one round (a 4-dice Jan Ors shot, and a 5-Dice Dash shot, plus lots of blanks), and Kad contributed. That seems like it's probably an apt description of Kad Solus in any list. "And Kad contributed." It's not that I'm unimpressed by HWKs. My HWKs have died wicked fast when I've flown them. I think it's just that my opponent rightly feared them enough to crush them immediately, as well as being a more predictable target than an arc-dodgy Fang.

With 4lom you take a TL with AdSe, then get a calculate from your res manover. So landopoints can be spent in a more optimal way imo.

otherwise Bitterfig sums it up.

I always use predator on Fenn.

I play with 8-11pts bid when I have fenn since he tends to be useless if he cant keep range1. So then the points can b spent better.

But bids depend on your local meta.

Hwks tends to get severly punished when they overstep. So they dont leave any room for mistakes.

The boost and place behind rocks has been key in the games i got em to survive.

If your green dice like you then Elusive is ok, but if you drop Lando I would go with Outmaneuver on 4 Lom. I know Elusive plays well with 4 Loms ability, but Outmaneuver makes 4Lom a huge threat that they will have to deal with.

On 10/23/2018 at 8:55 AM, theBitterFig said:

A  nd   to toss another ship i  n here to complicate things, Kavil seems s  trong these days. Som  ethin  g like 63 points total for Expert Handling, Dorsal Turret, Proton  Torpedoes, R4 Astromech, Han-gunner is going to be pretty solid. 

@theBitterFig , got a game on with Fenn , Old T, and Kavil and I was very impressed. All three of the pilots caused my opponent to second guess his moves the whole game. Was fortunate and pulled off two range one out of arc shots with Kavil after Old T stripped tokens. Fenn did Fenn things and I may be sold on Outmaneuver on him. I will have to consider my bid but the 4 point bid was just enough for this game. Appreciate the advice.