I play against han with r2-d2, ezra, chewie, lone wolf. It's impossible to kill him, he just can't die. I played with vader, echo and rhymer and after I killed the bwing I went for him(rhymer had died) and each time he attacked me he rolled all hits and all mine were most blanks(which have been coming out on all my 2nd edition).

I think r2 is extremely cheap, because he makes han have much more than 13 hitpoints.

Any suggestion?

If anything, Han is cheap. Some questions though: How often were your dice modified? How often were their dice modified? If you really did roll all blanks, and they did roll all hits, is that Han, or your dice?

10 minutes ago, "Quickdraw" said:

Any suggestion?

Seismic Charges. He can't reroll at range 0-1 of an obstacle if there are no obstacles.

Other than that, focus fire to take him down as quickly as possible. RD-D2 crew only repairs at most 1 HP a round. Focus fire so he doesn't have many rounds to live and repair damage.

Before coming here to complain about dice and call for a nerf answer the following questions:

1) what did I do wrong? Was I giving up modifiers by repositioning too much? Did I approach Han from opposite sides, allowing him to use Ezra to make a bonus attack?

2) what did my opponent do right? Did their maneuver and action choices allow them to continue making fully modded attacks against my ships? How did they maneuver so they didn’t have to spend an action to change turret arc?

3) were the rolls actually above/below average? Use a probability calculator to check expected damage.

4) has anyone else noticed this card seems overpowered, or is it just me? What might account for the difference?

This actually sounds fun, im going to try Han with Ezra, Chewie, R2D2, Lone Wolf, and a rigged cargo chute (just in case I need that extra bit of obstacle) Plus a kitted out Wedge as a companion and have either of them hunt across the board

I've heard Kylo Ren is pretty great at killing Han.

My general experience has been that if my opponent rolls mostly hits and I roll mostly blanks, I usually lose.

1 hour ago, WAC47 said:

Before coming here to complain about dice and call for a nerf answer the following questions:

I'm not looking for a nerf, that's why I asked if I was doing something wrong or I just have to play better(because I refuse to believe that one can loose a battle because of luck, if you play well, you win).

I think R2-D2 (crew) is fairly priced, what's making the combo work here is being paried up with Chewie who can repair crits, so you should only need to worry R2-D2 manages to flip a damage card twice in a row, which statistically he shouldn't be doing all that often. It's really not a cheap build though 127 points is a whacking great big chunk of points. Ezra is literally just there to provide a force token, which is great and all, but 18pts? I'd be tempted to spare some points with Bistan or Hotshot gunner and then be able to take an 80pt Supernatural Luke.

I mean, with the Ezra build you can still take a decent 60pt Wedge, but you don't have enough points for anything else then, and Wedge sort of hits diminishing returns past the 60pt mark, but do you REALLY wan't to put even more points onto the Falcon?

What was he running Han with?

29 minutes ago, "Quickdraw" said:

I'm not looking for a nerf, that's why I asked if I was doing something wrong or I just have to play better(because I refuse to believe that one can loose a battle because of luck, if you play well, you win).

Wrong universe. Same truth.

59 minutes ago, Slugrage said:

Wrong universe. Same truth.

Shaka, when the walls fell

55 minutes ago, MasterShake2 said:

Shaka, when the walls fell

Temba, his arms wide

4 hours ago, "Quickdraw" said:

I play against han with r2-d2, ezra, chewie, lone wolf. It's impossible to kill him, he just can't die. I played with vader, echo and rhymer and after I killed the bwing I went for him(rhymer had died) and each time he attacked me he rolled all hits and all mine were most blanks(which have been coming out on all my 2nd edition).

I think r2 is extremely cheap, because he makes han have much more than 13 hitpoints.

Any suggestion?

What was your built exactly, who had initiative and how did you place initially?
Did you try to use Rhymer as a blocker for Han?

5 hours ago, Derpzilla88 said:

I've heard Kylo Ren is pretty great at killing Han.

Too soon.

3 minutes ago, Dr Zoidberg said:

Too soon.

Beat me to it!

Sounds like you got unlucky. But also major strategic point: KILL THE REGEN FIRST. Every time. If a strong regen ship with good defences is left in the endgame it becomes very tough to take down. Han is just that.

47 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

But also major strategic point: KILL THE REGEN FIRST.

I recently faced Luke with a plain R2 in a 400 point match. I still don’t know if I did the right thing targeting him first, as it seemed to take forever to get him, but once he was gone I still had enough fire power left to squeak a 13 point margin of victory.

For me Luke is the exception. Unless you've got a lot of guns on him he's just so unlikely to go down, so soak his torps and hope you out point him.

2014 called, they want their thread back.

8 hours ago, Marinealver said:

2014 called, they want their thread back.

Well, they already basically have their Han back, so that seems fair

16 hours ago, Derpzilla88 said:

I've heard Kylo Ren is pretty great at killing Han.

Aside from memes, in 1.0, Kylo on even his PS11 (for the moment) Dad is not even a fair fight. Autothrusters were a godsend in dark times.

Huh, I don't really get how the new fat Han is as bad as the 1.0 one. Its much easier to push damage through, has to stay near obstacles without touching them, and doesnt have 360 degree arc anymore. Ive only faced a flavor of it once in 2.0, but it seemed much more tame than in ye olde days.

Sure he can regen One shield per round, however with 1 agility you should be able to push through way more than one despite his re-roll ability.

I thought that Ezra gunner wouldn’t worked in the Falcon? Isn’t it’s only attack a turret attack ?

Played again with another squad and won. I took the defender which always works out for me but I didn't want to use him. On the previous games I was playing with vader and echo fully loaded, and something else. This time I went with rexler, echo and a cheap aggressor. My phantom went with zero damage and everyone else dead.

I admit the force was with me because I had some lucky dice.

His second ship was a B-wing.

I forgot to tell, I play in a bigger mat with double asteroids (which are still more than there should be to make it equivalent).