What do you think is more efficient? Builds will most likely be as following

Darth Vader (70)
- Supernatural Reflexes (12)
- Fire-Control System (3)
-- Gesammt (85)

Whisper (52)
- Juke (4)
- Darth Vader (14)
- Collision Detector (5)
-- Gesammt (73)

Whisper in almost any situation.

7 minutes ago, SOTL said:

Whisper in almost any situation.

For sure.

That Whisper build is pretty awesome

I'm not even sure that Collision Detector is 100% neccessary. Fun? Yes. But without it you can take a Juking Rexler and still have 41 points left over for Iden or Saber Squadron.

38 minutes ago, Mward1984 said:

I'm not even sure that Collision Detector is 100% neccessary. Fun? Yes. But without it you can take a Juking Rexler and still have 41 points left over for Iden or Saber Squadron.

You might want to re-read Iden's ability.

Whisper, far more useful and Vader crew perfect for control !

1 hour ago, TBot said:

You might want to re-read Iden's ability.

Or something else then.

Howlrunner works in any context that you're using Iden in.

4 hours ago, Ignithas said:

What do you think is more efficient? Builds will most likely be as following

Efficiency wise definitely Whisper with Vader and Juke. For mere 70 points (nonetheless Vader’s Base cost) you get a ship that has action efficiency, the ability to strip green tokens or pass damage easily, when cloak almost be unhittable.

Whisper

Vader pilot is probably the better option most of the time, but the phantom w/ him as crew is just way more fun.

The Vader card on Whisper bothers me a bit. With Juke it's virtually 1 or two guaranteed damage. If you sacrifice your token then Juke will leave you with a cancelled evade, and if you had no token Vader does a damage and then oh look it's Juke again.

9 hours ago, Mward1984 said:

Or something else then.

I've been choosing Wampa, but Seyn Marana seems popular and good as well. That collision detector is really tempting though. Seen a few Whispers really miss it, especially on a more crowded table against a swarm.

I've been running Sai w/ Vader, 000, ST321 with Whisper/Juke/Krennic and Redline/Tragedy Stimulator/Propedoes, Probombs, Seismics, and a missile (that's about to change). OP goes to Sai. I love the list, and it has obscene action efficiency. If it's a crowded table, I tend to run whisper on the outskirts, and let Redline and the shuttle chew through the middle and break up the chaff.

I got ROLLED by a Whisper Vader at my first Tourney on Sunday. I think my mistake was focusing down Soontir first... Vader just killed me.

Vader crew on Major Vermeil!

4 hours ago, C3gorach said:

Vader crew on Major Vermeil!

With Juke.

Depends on the degree of bidding insanity in your meta. I'm seeing double digit bids at I5 across all three factions. In that kind of environment, just go Vader over Whisper and free yourself of the aggravation.

8 hours ago, JasonCole said:

Propedoes

This is now my favourite abbreviation.

1 hour ago, Cuz05 said:

This is now my favourite abbreviation.

If you use the word too often you probably will be visited by the police.

3 hours ago, Cuz05 said:

This is now my favourite abbreviation.

Over Tragedy Stimulator?

6 hours ago, AgencyBurglar said:

Depends on the degree of bidding insanity in your meta. I'm seeing double digit bids at I5 across all three factions. In that kind of environment, just go Vader over Whisper and free yourself of the aggravation.

I feel like Whisper is fine either way. If she shoots first she’ll have double evades, if she shoots second she’ll arc dodge.

1 hour ago, JasonCole said:

Over Tragedy Stimulator?

Well, that never gets old. But I will be propedoing more than I will be stimulating tragedy.

I keep swapping in and out Prockets on him too. The big issue is that every game I have them, with a few exceptions, I don't end up using them. Then when I dump them in favor of something else, I end up with a bullseye double modded shot cursing myself that I don't have that sweet sweet 5 die attack.