10 minutes ago, GrimmyV said:

That would put the diameter at over 1km for just the core ship. It’s listed as under 700 m diameter in online sources. So about 2.5 meters for a 1/270 scale model, although I’d settle for half that scale

Fair, I was going from a mental image for my guestimate and not an actual pic. Looking at the image of a Lucrehulk Battleship, 2.5m seems to fit allot better. I am curious if you actually plan on playing a game with a 1.25 meter diameter, 1/540th scale core ship or using it as an table.

6 hours ago, GrimmyV said:

Flappy wings please. At least the side ones. I’d love for the ventral wing to move as well but that’s asking ALOT.

my favorite Republic ship.

Yes...its design does pose a very perplexing logistical issue.

My best guess for the full flappy version would be to put the stand off-center under one of the engine columns.

Ah. Someone will mod it that way for sure if we're lucky enough to get these on the table.

If they ever do make the Twilight, I will buy one just to cover it in glitter.

I'm really excited about the ships of that era, I have to say.

The Belbullab-22 starfighter has to be in there with Grevious on it

the problem is, Anakyn Skywalker was more Force powerfull than Darth Vader... How to rend it?

generally speaking, the argument here are valid: less shield (except for Y-Wing and ARC 170), more armour, less speed, more agility. We have the same difference that exist from fighters and bombers of the I World War and II World War. With the mixed age in the middle (not all powers in II WW have the best in the line, a lot of '20 and '30 years were still on duty and phased out during the war, exactly as was the case for a lot of starfighters and starships during the Rebellion). The Alliance work on antiques was to strenghten their firepower, strip armour to gain speed and maneuvrabilty, and to ad Astromech to reduce manpower. Repubblic Y-Wing hosted Astromech, gunner, pilot, and bomber crew - Alliance go with pilot and astromech only. And by the way during Clone War, Y-Wing is closer to medium bomber than to fighter-bomber or pure bomber roles, and it is twice the size of an X-Wing for this reason.

The true difference stand in the crew: Clones are best then average pilots in both Rebels and Empire starfighter commands. They are finely trained and were the same skill of Jango Fett, who was an ace capable of fight with success and experienced Jedi Master as Obi Wan Kenobi, with the Force at his side.

By the converse, the Droid, defect in skills, and were lacking in many ways - they amend this with numbers and missiles firepower (and with maneuvre impossible to biological beings).

Do not forget that the Sith were not on Confederacy in any official capacity. Ventress has a role but she was not a true Sith. So I do not think we will se any of the Sith Infiltrator at least they do the same on Darth Maul than they have done on Scum and Villany Conversion Kit.

There are a lot of subfaction in Clone Wars: Mandalorians, Hutt, Black Sun to name a few, a very fertile ground. We shall see... The galaxy are going to be bigger and better in the next future. And that is good for X-Wing Miniature Game.

3 minutes ago, CapitanGuinea said:

Do not forget that the Sith were not on Confederacy in any official capacity. Ventress has a role but she was not a true Sith. So I do not think we will se any of the Sith Infiltrator at least they do the same on Darth Maul than they have done on Scum and Villany Conversion Kit.

The Sith Infiltrator was never used by the Separatists let alone Maul, but Maul has been confirmed for the CIS and the Sith Infiltrator is the very first ship revealed for the CIS.

1 minute ago, Animewarsdude said:

The Sith Infiltrator was never used by the Separatists let alone Maul, but Maul has been confirmed for the CIS and the Sith Infiltrator is the very first ship revealed for the CIS.

citing C3p0... "Oh my"... That a grossolane mistake in the canon... We shall see the cards and how they implemented it... (by the way there were just one of that ship...)

7 minutes ago, CapitanGuinea said:

citing C3p0... "Oh my"... That a grossolane mistake in the canon... We shall see the cards and how they implemented it... (by the way there were just one of that ship...)

The Separatists lack a decent selection of large to medium ships, it is rather iconic, and Maul at the time of using it was allied with the Sith. Those would be the reasons I imagine it is being used by the CIS. And there were actually multiples of the craft, it was just a limited production run called the Star Courier and while at present the only one in the new canon is Maul's there were a few more used by other people in Legends. And considering that the Scimitar, Maul's version of the ship, was heavily modified I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't treat the title like Virago to an extent.

1 hour ago, Animewarsdude said:

The Separatists lack a decent selection of large to medium ships, it is rather iconic, and Maul at the time of using it was allied with the Sith. Those would be the reasons I imagine it is being used by the CIS. 

There is also this

3 hours ago, CapitanGuinea said:

the problem is, Anakyn Skywalker was more Force powerfull than Darth Vader... How to rend it?

generally speaking, the argument here are valid: less shield (except for Y-Wing and ARC 170), more armour, less speed, more agility. We have the same difference that exist from fighters and bombers of the I World War and II World War. With the mixed age in the middle (not all powers in II WW have the best in the line, a lot of '20 and '30 years were still on duty and phased out during the war, exactly as was the case for a lot of starfighters and starships during the Rebellion). The Alliance work on antiques was to strenghten their firepower, strip armour to gain speed and maneuvrabilty, and to ad Astromech to reduce manpower. Repubblic Y-Wing hosted Astromech, gunner, pilot, and bomber crew - Alliance go with pilot and astromech only. And by the way during Clone War, Y-Wing is closer to medium bomber than to fighter-bomber or pure bomber roles, and it is twice the size of an X-Wing for this reason.

The true difference stand in the crew: Clones are best then average pilots in both Rebels and Empire starfighter commands. They are finely trained and were the same skill of Jango Fett, who was an ace capable of fight with success and experienced Jedi Master as Obi Wan Kenobi, with the Force at his side.

By the converse, the Droid, defect in skills, and were lacking in many ways - they amend this with numbers and missiles firepower (and with maneuvre impossible to biological beings).

Do not forget that the Sith were not on Confederacy in any official capacity. Ventress has a role but she was not a true Sith. So I do not think we will se any of the Sith Infiltrator at least they do the same on Darth Maul than they have done on Scum and Villany Conversion Kit.

There are a lot of subfaction in Clone Wars: Mandalorians, Hutt, Black Sun to name a few, a very fertile ground. We shall see... The galaxy are going to be bigger and better in the next future. And that is good for X-Wing Miniature Game.

Anakin Skywalker is Darth Vader (spoilers, sorry) yet you are saying he was more powerful then? I'm not sure I buy that. I think perhaps his focus was changed when his body was marred but I think he likely still has the same potential, perhaps focusing some of it all times on the unbearable pain he likely suffered for the rest of this life.

I agree with most of what you say in your second paragraph. Especially the sentence: less shields, more armor, less speed, more agility. I'm still thinking that making the BTL-B Y-Wing's canon length as long as it was was a mistake done to allow for a stylistic choice rather than an intelligent technical choice. There's been lots of arguments on that so I'm not going to get into it again because there's solid reasons why the size could have changed... it just feels wrong.

I think you're overvaluing the clones a bit there. Yes, they came from Jango and so have the same potential. Most people don't reach full potential, though. I'd go asf ar to say Jango didn't even reach his full potential. While clones are "the same guy" that doesn't actually make them equal. I'm not saying the clones aren't awesome, they definitely are, and maybe on average are better than Rebel or Imperial pilots, but not wholly.

The Scimitar was seen used by multiple agents both in canon and legends. General Grievous was one in canon (Darth Maul - Son of Dathomir, Part 4, yes it's Dark Horse comics but it's considered canon as part of TCW series). Outside of the CIS, there was also later Chanath Cha during the Imperial era. I'd say it's possible Sidious sent other agents out with this ship for deeds in the shadow. In Legends, Plagueis also had the ship. That'd be entertaining to see in the game. The ship is also not actually a one-of in canon. It's a modified version of a different ship. They could have a scenario where a title gives all the bells and whistles (cloaking device, probe droids, etc) while the base version is a pretty standard courier ship (which could easily have been used by the CIS). In Legends, Republic Sienar Systems did sell ships to the CIS as well. While it's not straightforward, there are ways to explain it AND you really had to have wanted this ship in game right? Without splintering into a thousand factions, giving it to the CIS was the easiest and most reasonable path to get it in.

The sub-factions you mention will all be in Scum unless they were aligned with CIS (in which case they might only be CIS, only Scum, or both).

3 hours ago, Animewarsdude said:

The Sith Infiltrator was never used by the Separatists let alone Maul, but Maul has been confirmed for the CIS and the Sith Infiltrator is the very first ship revealed for the CIS.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Scimitar

Which is also knows as .... the Sith Infiltrator. The same ship he used to track Anakin, Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan and Padme to Tatoonie in TPM. Just like the Millenium Falcon is a YT-1300, the Black One is a T-70 X-Wing etc. etc.

4 hours ago, Animewarsdude said:

The Sith Infiltrator was never used by the Separatists let alone Maul, but Maul has been confirmed for the CIS and the Sith Infiltrator is the very first ship revealed for the CIS.

35 minutes ago, Cgriffith said:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Scimitar

Which is also knows as .... the Sith Infiltrator. The same ship he used to track Anakin, Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan and Padme to Tatoonie in TPM. Just like the Millenium Falcon is a YT-1300, the Black One is a T-70 X-Wing etc. etc.

Wait, I missed that statement. Yeah, the Scimitar is a Sith Infiltrator (or Modified Star Courier, even more correctly).

45 minutes ago, Cgriffith said:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Scimitar

Which is also knows as .... the Sith Infiltrator. The same ship he used to track Anakin, Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan and Padme to Tatoonie in TPM. Just like the Millenium Falcon is a YT-1300, the Black One is a T-70 X-Wing etc. etc.

I know, I called it the Sith Infiltrator and said in another post that it would likely have Scimitar as a Virago like title.

11 minutes ago, Animewarsdude said:

I know, I called it the Sith Infiltrator and said in another post that it would likely have Scimitar as a Virago like title.

Or Sith Infiltrator as the title since, like the Scum Aggressor, the Star Courier was a full production yet very expensive design. The Scimitar and IG-2000 are just the iconic examples of those chasses.

The fact that after the mutilation Anakyn loses a lot of power was stated by George Lucas. Before he was potentially twice the power of Darth Sidious. After he was only 80% of his power in the Force. It is stated in the commentary track of Episode III. There it is stated that Luke (and Leia) were only one half of original power level of Anakyn. The Chosen One was extraordinary in every sense

14 minutes ago, CapitanGuinea said:

Anakin

Hate to be the guy nitpicking but please stop spelling that with a y.

Commentary track source is interesting. I think it's arguable that the 20% drop was because of what I stated, keeping himself focused enough through the pain to actually function.

Lucas related the fact to the lost of body parts, with their load of midichlorians. It is also stated plainly in more parts of Expanded Universe that to be a full master in the Force one has to be mostly... whole... and organic. So the cyborg Darth Vader was not fully able to develop his true power.

3 minutes ago, CapitanGuinea said:

Lucas related the fact to the lost of body parts, with their load of midichlorians. It is also stated plainly in more parts of Expanded Universe that to be a full master in the Force one has to be mostly... whole... and organic. So the cyborg Darth Vader was not fully able to develop his true power.

I find that distinction kind of weird, when we've got things like Kel Dor Jedi exist, basically requiring them to have something inorganic attached to them almost all the time. It also means Luke was unable to access the full potential of the force. This would also include Anakin before becoming Vader, as he lost one of this arms in AOTC. I get that George said it but... ugh, another thing that just feels wrong. It's not actually in canon, at least, so I can willfully ignore it for it now.

So, native Red Jam on Republic ARC-170 or a new sensor upgrade that lets you perform a free Jam or gives a Jam action to your action bar?

6 minutes ago, Animewarsdude said:

So, native Red Jam on Republic ARC-170 or a new sensor upgrade that lets you perform a free Jam or gives a Jam action to your action bar?

Tactical Scrambler covers what he described.

1 minute ago, Hiemfire said:

Tactical Scrambler covers what he described.

But I want something shiny and new! Come on FFG, start releasing Tactical Scramblers with foil art!

It's not canon, but I think the way I would read Anakin's power drop isn't necessarily that he's lost potential, but that he's simply a broken man as Vader. It's probably contradicted in other sources, but from what is on screen in the movies, Vader is just not the man he used to be, and I don't mean morally. The old Anakin wouldn't just be an enforcer for his superior. That's the sort of thing he chafed under as a jedi, but that's what we see Vader being in the movies. The events that caused him to fall to the dark side also left him with nothing left to care about, and he only seems to put the bare minimum of effort into anything. His interest in Luke is the most invested he ever gets, and that ultimately leads to him rethinking his choices.

In X-Wing though, I'm not sure how much that matters. A lot of pilot abilities aren't so much about power or even what they do on screen. I think it is likely though that an Anakin ability will come across as more active, and that could make it feel more powerful even if it strictly isn't, as Anakin is known for a lot of daredevil stunts.

On ‎10‎/‎16‎/‎2018 at 10:51 PM, Bucknife said:

REPUBLIC (speculation):

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Y-wing : 2/2-1-7-2, front arc+mobile arc but no turret upgrades, 30-50pt range, 5 squad max.

...

I'll take a stab at the Y-wing. Well first it is not a Y-wing (as the Rebel and S&V Y-wings) but an Armored Y-wing.

Y-wing 2 0 2 6 Ship Trait: Armored Plating When this ship takes damage from an attack, reduce that damage by 1 to a minimum of 1 . Front arc, turret and gunner/astromech slot options. Dial same as the stiff 1st edition dial with only blue maneuver are the speed 1 and 2 straights. Actions same as Y-wing.

So basicly this ship forgoes agility for a permanent reinforce. Also it has a stiffer dial than its lighter cousin.

So if they were to release a core set for the New Republic/Confederacy of Independent Systems (CIS) which two small fighters do we believe would be in the core set?

One Delta-7 and two Droid tri-fighter??

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Droid_tri-fighter

By the way what type of stats we think the thing will get?