Redline double locking a target

By Pewpewpew BOOM, in X-Wing Rules Questions

I find nothing that prevents Redline from putting 2 locks on a single target. Is there something I am missing?

Nope. He can indeed maintain 2 locks on the same target.

12 minutes ago, Pewpewpew BOOM said:

I find nothing that prevents Redline from putting 2 locks on a single target. Is there something I am missing?

1 minute ago, DR4CO said:

Nope. He can indeed maintain 2 locks on the same target.

Disturbingly I went through both the RR and Rule Book and could not find anything contrary to this. There are a few places that state a ship spends a lock that it has to use the effect covered which implies that Redline (unlike ships running R3 Astromech which specifies that the locks have to be on different targets) can have more than one on a single target... Like I said, disturbing...

It's only disturbing if you assume it's a bug and not a feature. He could do it in 1st Edition, after all.

Me: "No. That's clearly wrong. It's right in the rules reference under locks. ... Right?"

*Looked it up*

"Oh. My. God."

Well, one of my lists just got better. Thanks fellas!

This was a feature of his 1.0 self. I was reading a Vessery post and folks ID’d Redline as a good wingman, but nobody pointed out the double lock so I figured I would double check.

8 minutes ago, DR4CO said:

It's only disturbing if you assume it's a bug and not a feature. He could do it in 1st Edition, after all.

It's disturbing because I'll likely be on the receiving end of it. Maintaining dice mods for Redline is extremely easy.

Edited by Hiemfire

It's also a lot less useful to have two locks one one guy than in 1e, as Red line gets a free lock with every action and you don't have to spend them to fire.

Edited by thespaceinvader
19 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

It's also a lot less useful to have two locks one one guy than in 1e, as Red line gets a free lock with every action and you don't have to spend them to fire.

Unless you're talking advanced sensors on Redline he's looking at prot with reroll-4k or 3 hard-prot with reroll on the same target.

Yeah but he gets the reroll by having and spending one lock. He doesn't need both on the same target unless he expects to spend two turns shooting the same guy without taking any actions at all in between.

Yeah, I'm not sure I see many reasons double lock a ship if you have the ability to lock two of them. I guess if you think you'll need locks on the same target for two turns in a row, expect to be spending one of them on the first turn of that two turn sequence, and anticipate a red maneuver or something else that prevents you from taking an action and, for free, regaining the lock then it could be worth while. But that's kind of an edge case compared to doubling up on your target options in case your opponent pulls some jank and makes your primary target no longer possible/ideal to shoot at.

the only thing that prevents doublelocks is the droid itself, and in 1.0 the crew.

Redline never prevented it.

Redline DID lose the "acquire a lock after acquiring a lock" thing, but i'll take his current form for that any day lol (do ANYTHING -> get a lock)

I had friends deny me this one because it said so 'in the rule book' last week. Thanks for this clarification. Having two locks on a ghost he was following with two proton torp charges would have been awesome.

On 11/23/2018 at 5:07 AM, johnstevens said:

I had friends deny me this one because it said so 'in the rule book' last week. Thanks for this clarification. Having two locks on a ghost he was following with two proton torp charges would have been awesome.

You should get them to show EXACTLY where it says Redline can't have 2 locks on the same target.

On 11/22/2018 at 7:07 PM, johnstevens said:

I had friends deny me this one because it said so 'in the rule book' last week. Thanks for this clarification. Having two locks on a ghost he was following with two proton torp charges would have been awesome.

I think your friends might have a moment like @jftanner did:

On 10/16/2018 at 8:16 PM, jftanner said:

Me:     "  No. That's clearly wrong. It's right in the rules reference under locks. ... Right?"

*Looked it up*

"Oh. My. God."          

 

Well, one of my lists just got better. Thanks  fellas   !