Grimgrieve the Twisted and his ability...

By seba74, in Runebound

Dear Runbounders,

I played recently the Scepter of Kyros - the adventure variant with the giants and I noticed some obscurity (something which is not clear to me) on Grimgrieve's the Twisted card. I mean his ability. It reads: ''If a Hero is knocked out or an Ally is killed during this Challenge, discard all wounds from this Challenge''. If it's about an ally killed it makes sense because the fight is being continued by the hero but if the hero is knocked out the fight ends and according to the rules all wounds should be removed from the challenge anyway. I thought that I maybe haven't understood the rules and checked it again, it reads: ''(...) remove all wound counters from the Challenge card and place it on the undeffeated challenge track.'' Ok then, maybe when the giant is in a town it doesn't heal? No - ''If a hero is knocked out facing a Giant Lord in a town, discard the Giant Lord's experience counters as well as any wounds or exhaustions it took during the combat.''

I think that it is just a misprint on the card or mistake (again sad.gif ), fortunately not dangerous one

Do you know any situation when the undeffeated challenge remain with its wounds?

seba74 said:

Dear Runbounders,

I played recently the Scepter of Kyros - the adventure variant with the giants and I noticed some obscurity (something which is not clear to me) on Grimgrieve's the Twisted card. I mean his ability. It reads: ''If a Hero is knocked out or an Ally is killed during this Challenge, discard all wounds from this Challenge''. If it's about an ally killed it makes sense because the fight is being continued by the hero but if the hero is knocked out the fight ends and according to the rules all wounds should be removed from the challenge anyway. I thought that I maybe haven't understood the rules and checked it again, it reads: ''(...) remove all wound counters from the Challenge card and place it on the undeffeated challenge track.'' Ok then, maybe when the giant is in a town it doesn't heal? No - ''If a hero is knocked out facing a Giant Lord in a town, discard the Giant Lord's experience counters as well as any wounds or exhaustions it took during the combat.''

I think that it is just a misprint on the card or mistake (again sad.gif ), fortunately not dangerous one

Do you know any situation when the undeffeated challenge remain with its wounds?

Checked right now and you're right about everything. I don't know a situation when this can occur, since Challenges always discard Wounds if the Hero is knocked out. Strange thing is that Griemgrieve the Twisted has only 3 Wounds, which is rather poor for a Giant Lord; surely there's some misprint or mistake about how the card was written, but I don't know how should it look like. There's no official answer in the FAQ.

Personally I don't mind when the rules are written in such a way as to cover all possibilities, even impossible ones. =)

The_Warlock said:

Strange thing is that Griemgrieve the Twisted has only 3 Wounds, which is rather poor for a Giant Lord; surely there's some misprint or mistake about how the card was written, but I don't know how should it look like.

I hope that the 3 lives for the giant lord are not a misprint. I checked the cards and found anoher giant lord who has also only 3 lives - Bael the Ready. Additionally another blue challanges with 3 lives - Relentless Assassin and Hybrid Skystrikers.

I am very far from spereading any defeatism (I like RB very much) and the idea that the monsters conquer the cities and use the artifacts is interesting but there is also some shortcoming in the scenario of Scepter of Kyros noticeable - how could the giants use the stuff of the humans, their weapons and armors (I mean the size of course)? I know - it is a boardgame and in the magic world of Terrinoth everything is possible.

Anyway, thanks for your posts. It is always very helpful.