[MAFIA] And then there were. . .? - Ended

By GhostofNobodyInParticular, in Star Wars: Armada Off-Topic

so @PodRacer do you still want to vote for me?

or do you have a real vote because your explanation seemed like a joke.

Hmmmm

let me think about it...

1 minute ago, PodRacer said:

Hmmmm

let me think about it...

there is a chance of a jester in this game

14 hours ago, Caldias said:

Here are my thoughts:

The Clon Voters

So for me, I think Ebon is looking pretty shady. He's been fairly aggro on myself, Bertie, and Jabba for what I don't feel is a very compelling argument. I reread the Jabba/Bertie/Me posts as objectively as I could and I am not seeing how it could be read as some rehearsed screed. I was merely responding to Bertie's speculation, then he responded back. With that and somehow not checking the night kill before accusing LTD, well, it all adds up to be a bit suspicious.

I think Bertie could go either way. His post of listing suspects seems to contribute but it really adds up to nothing as he just accused everyone, depending on what group you fall on, which doesn't really do much to narrow the field. He also doesn't really offer much in the way of reasons for his suspicions that could be scummy to me.

Pod doing the vote-and-scoot is kind of weird. He could possibly have information based off his role? Or he could just be Podding around. Or could be scum. Even odds town/scum for me

I agree that Matt is probably the most town due to his posts seem to be genuinely looking for scum.

Jabba doesn't seem that scum to me, either, and mostly is responding to Ebon's accusations. He hasn't done anything to make me think he is scum, but also hasn't really done any reads other than defending against Ebon. Would like to hear more from him

The Non-Voters

Constantine Valdor is high on my list of suspects. He had fair enough reasons for not being around, but when he checked in he barely contributed and then bolted again.

Mads gave a decent reason for not voting and has good reads, but he always has a good reason/good reads for everything regardless of his role. He's a 50/50 scum or town for me.

Here is the tl;dr:

  • Ebon - likely scum
  • Constantine Valdor - likely scum
  • Bertie - 50/50
  • Mads - 50/50
  • Pod - 50/50
  • Matt - likely town
  • Jabba - likely town

10 hours ago, Constantine Valdor said:

Mechanics are always annoying but important

I'm suspicious about Cal, and either you or Pod or both of you :D

10 hours ago, PodRacer said:

I'm kinda tonguetied. I'm not feeling like BW is too scummy rn, I also don't have any good leads of my own.

plus as confirmed town I don't really have the usual urgency to prove myself town.

I think I'd like to switch my vote to Matt.

##unvote

##vote matt

6 hours ago, Caldias said:

FWIW, this puts you at 50/50 for me now, and especially as there is no counter claim. I still think you distorted what I said, which is a scum thing to do, but maybe it was unintentional/due to a misread. Assuming you really are the cop, and Pod is cleared, that does narrow the field some.

With that, I'm willing to vote on Bertie. I will wait a bit, though, just in case a cop counter claim comes.

Upon reread, the above posts stood out to me;

Cal still pushing Ebon/Pod in the first post, despite Ebons claim/verification of pod. Now in fairness, I also missed this on initial reading, but on reread I’m not really sure wtf is wrong with me, so I don’t know that Cal did. He seems to recant in fourth post I dropped tho, but not sure it scum retreating from untenable position, or cautious town play, either of which are plausible given the source.

CV also pushes Ebon/Pod, and also Cal? Strange bedfellows, I would like to know more.

I think Pod may have answered while I write this, but I also want to know why matt

My reads:

@PodRacer is being weirder than normal. Quiet voting without explanation isn’t like him.

@Caldias and @Madaghmire have both been their usual selves: both seeming to be helpful, Cal is quiet. I won’t trust either of them because they’re very good liars, Mads to the point where he’s on the bottom of my scum list simply because we won’t know otherwise until we kill him.

@Bertie Wooster is giving off definite scum vibes. Poor justification for his actions and reads where he sabotages his own reasoning are a big red flag.

@EbonHawk is still on my watch list. His defense and conspiracy theory still come off a little too strong in my mind. But Ebon doesn’t do things by half measures, and I don’t feel truly confident he’s scum rn.

@Matt3412 feels very town. Actively contributing, nothing really out of place. You’re in my good books for now, Matt... but I’ll be watching!

@Constantine Valdor is also going on the town list, because I believe his excuse and there are shadier people out there. Even in a vacuum there are players I’d vote on first.

The good: Matt3412, CV

The bad: Bertie Wooster, Mads

The grey: Ebon, Pod, Cal

4 minutes ago, The Jabbawookie said:

My reads:

@PodRacer is being weirder than normal. Quiet voting without explanation isn’t like him.

@Caldias and @Madaghmire have both been their usual selves: both seeming to be helpful, Cal is quiet. I won’t trust either of them because they’re very good liars, Mads to the point where he’s on the bottom of my scum list simply because we won’t know otherwise until we kill him.

@Bertie Wooster is giving off definite scum vibes. Poor justification for his actions and reads where he sabotages his own reasoning are a big red flag.

@EbonHawk is still on my watch list. His defense and conspiracy theory still come off a little too strong in my mind. But Ebon doesn’t do things by half measures, and I don’t feel truly confident he’s scum rn.

@Matt3412 feels very town. Actively contributing, nothing really out of place. You’re in my good books for now, Matt... but I’ll be watching!

@Constantine Valdor is also going on the town list, because I believe his excuse and there are shadier people out there. Even in a vacuum there are players I’d vote on first.

The good: Matt3412, CV

The bad: Bertie Wooster, Mads

The grey: Ebon, Pod, Cal

very very interesting

so @The Jabbawookie you don't believe ebon's claim?

2 minutes ago, Matt3412 said:

so @The Jabbawookie you don't believe ebon's claim?

it would appear not..

and I wouldn't put it past scum to throw someone under the bus if there was 3 of them ala Jabba and Bertie pushing onto Cal....

I just don't buy Mads as scum IMO but I know all too well from previous games I could b wrong on him

Just now, Matt3412 said:

so @The Jabbawookie you don't believe ebon's claim?

I don’t know. Like I said, I don’t have Ebon as scum, but his breadcrumbs have been painfully obvious and consistent from the start. If it’s a decoy I applaud you, Ebon. If you’re real, scan me anytime so we can at least get on the same page about my innocence. That’s really a good point; it would be incredibly gutsy for scum to try forcing our cop into hiding, so that makes Ebon seem even townsite.

*townier

24 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

Upon reread, the above posts stood out to me;

Cal still pushing Ebon/Pod in the first post, despite Ebons claim/verification of pod. Now in fairness, I also missed this on initial reading, but on reread I’m not really sure wtf is wrong with me, so I don’t know that Cal did. He seems to recant in fourth post I dropped tho, but not sure it scum retreating from untenable position, or cautious town play, either of which are plausible given the source.

CV also pushes Ebon/Pod, and also Cal? Strange bedfellows, I would like to know more.

I think Pod may have answered while I write this, but I also want to know why matt

When I was pushing on Ebon, it was before he claimed cop. I saw the bread loafs, but wasn't sure if it was a serious claim or just more joking around with Pod Racer. Once he legit claimed and came out with information I started believing him more, esp with no counter claim still.

18 minutes ago, The Jabbawookie said:

My reads:

@PodRacer is being weirder than normal. Quiet voting without explanation isn’t like him.

@Caldias and @Madaghmire have both been their usual selves: both seeming to be helpful, Cal is quiet. I won’t trust either of them because they’re very good liars, Mads to the point where he’s on the bottom of my scum list simply because we won’t know otherwise until we kill him.

@Bertie Wooster is giving off definite scum vibes. Poor justification for his actions and reads where he sabotages his own reasoning are a big red flag.

@EbonHawk is still on my watch list. His defense and conspiracy theory still come off a little too strong in my mind. But Ebon doesn’t do things by half measures, and I don’t feel truly confident he’s scum rn.

@Matt3412 feels very town. Actively contributing, nothing really out of place. You’re in my good books for now, Matt... but I’ll be watching!

@Constantine Valdor is also going on the town list, because I believe his excuse and there are shadier people out there. Even in a vacuum there are players I’d vote on first.

The good: Matt3412, CV

The bad: Bertie Wooster, Mads

The grey: Ebon, Pod, Cal

A victim of my own success. Hard to defend, I am very awesome, I doubt any of you will believe I’m not super mega awesome.

At this point, my three most town reads are Ebon, Pod (by virtue of Ebons verification) and Matt.

Bertie has made more than a few mistakes. As I’ve stated, I feel like a lot of it could be honest errors. But his self contradiction is an issue, and hes the only person where I can build a case involving tangible evidence versus intuitive conjecture. Also, there have been three more or less certified town votes on him, and there hasnt been that “get him over the hump” scum push I’d have expected if he were town. At the very least, I feel confident this isnt a scum wagon. I’ll throw my vote in as well.

##vote Bertie Wooster

28 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

At this point, my three most town reads are Ebon, Pod (by virtue of Ebons verification) and Matt.

Bertie has made more than a few mistakes. As I’ve stated, I feel like a lot of it could be honest errors. But his self contradiction is an issue, and hes the only person where I can build a case involving tangible evidence versus intuitive conjecture. Also, there have been three more or less certified town votes on him, and there hasnt been that “get him over the hump” scum push I’d have expected if he were town. At the very least, I feel confident this isnt a scum wagon. I’ll throw my vote in as well.

##vote Bertie Wooster

So the mood of the day is hang Bertie?

## vote Bertie Wooster

28 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

At this point, my three most town reads are Ebon, Pod (by virtue of Ebons verification) and Matt.

Bertie has made more than a few mistakes. As I’ve stated, I feel like a lot of it could be honest errors. But his self contradiction is an issue, and hes the only person where I can build a case involving tangible evidence versus intuitive conjecture. Also, there have been three more or less certified town votes on him, and there hasnt been that “get him over the hump” scum push I’d have expected if he were town. At the very least, I feel confident this isnt a scum wagon. I’ll throw my vote in as well.

##vote Bertie Wooster

Interesting point and one I did not notice myself

@Bertie Wooster - L-1 Role please

##unvote

##vote Bertie

:^|

/hammer

Not hammer, L-2 right? And I'll be one of those two, but not before he talks.

It is Hammer, everyone stop posting

Unless I missed something, that's Hammer!

Man, something about that guy just really makes the senators suspect him. It's normal for politicians to double-talk, but who self-contradicts when laying out points and admits it? It's gotta be he, right?

@Bertie Wooster has been lynched. He was a town aligned PGO (you guys just love to lynch 'em this game, huh? 2/2!)

Vote Count:

  1. @The Jabbawookie
  2. @Caldias
  3. @Bertie Wooster - (2) Pod, Ebon, Matt, Mad, Con, Pod
  4. @PodRacer
  5. @EbonHawk - (0) Matt
  6. @Matt3412 - (0) Pod
  7. @Madaghmire
  8. @Constantine Valdor

Night Two has begun. It will end in 24 hours.

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Day Three!

A loud explosion wakes everybody, and the senators rush out of their rooms to discover emergency bulkheads around one of the bedrooms. It appears that an explosive decompression occurred in it.

@EbonHawk has been killed. He was a town-aligned Loyalty cop.

Vote Count:

  1. @The Jabbawookie
  2. @Caldias
  3. @PodRacer
  4. @Matt3412
  5. @Madaghmire
  6. @Constantine Valdor

4 to hammer.

Day will end in 48 hours.

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