Man the High Elves deck is mega tough. The combos it can do makes it the best race in the game now.

Strangely I'm not feeling (or seeing) the HE love, myself. They seem okay but I believe that there are at least 3-5 other decks that are better - perhaps I just need more time playing them but they don't seem that great to me. I still want more cards to work with!!

Yeah I was going about this Ulthuan expansion really hyped for the high elves. They seemed like they would be awesome. But I have not seen them do well so far. It's probably the fault of my deck building, but they are just not hanging well against other decks. Decks that have units like Deathmaster in them. The elves can't do anything once he gets out there. For all their control if deathmaster gets out there with some skaven there's like nothing they can do.

The dark elves solo deck runs pretty well I'm seeing, and a dark elf skaven decks are awesome. But I haven't figured out the high elves yet.

But the HE has the better chicks! mmm...Ylliriel...mmmm....

PS I must admit that Mortella (DE) doesn't look bad either...but she would drink my blood

Talk about the metagame....

i have to admit i'm having trouble getting a working deck for either d/e or h/e they just can't get started well enough.... I admit it maybe down to my deck design

gamjuven said:

Blessing of Isha can be played on the Deathmaster and he wont be able to use his ability as he can no longer be corrupted. High Elves also have Flames of the Phoenix which can set a Chaos/Skaven non-rush deck back pretty far.

darkdeal said:

I feel that Blessing of Isha is to narrow to play in a deck, as it is a dead card in many machups. Flames of the Phoenix still good.

I still feel that HE is very powerfull, but I'm far from extensive testing yet for them.

The HE are pretty powerful now and can push back almost any rush deck. I'm glad Order has a powerful race now and the Orc Rush Decks will have to adjust for this new threat or be stomped by it. I definately think we will be seeing the High Elves making it far in the upcoming tournaments.

darkdeal said:

Deathmaster...... enter the Zealot Hunter and that just one card to handle him.

ZH should probably be in far more decks than I've been seeing him in. Skaven are awesome and mixing and splashing in Destruction decks is not that uncommon.

As to Isha, I will disagree, there are a lot of effects that corrupt that I don't want my big guns being targeted by and that Isha neuters Skaven who are very powerful and popular I don't consider it a wasted slot in a HE deck. Heck when Corruptionis a major concern in my non-HE decks I'll sometimes run a pair.

That said Sniktch is dealt with very easily with the Repeat Bolt thrower. I'm guessing by the time this cycle is through indirect damage HE decks that heal and cancel damage done to their units and capitals is going to be a major concern. Anyone with a machine gun is to be feared, and a few more indirect damage effects and HE may not have to actually attack much to do a fair amounts of damage.

Dormouse, I'm unsure why you think that the Repeater Bolt Thrower will easily or consistently handle Sniktch? Most of the time that you use it, he's not going to put the Indirect Damage on Sniktch at all. Maybe I'm missing something?

One other note, I do like Zealot Hunter's abilities vs. combo decks but the problem is that all too often he takes too long to play (if you play him too soon and are running dual-factions, his Forced ability can nail you instead, ugh - but if you wait to play him against a Rush deck, it may already be too late by the time you CAN use him safely). Even worse is that against a pure Orc Rush deck, he's totally useless.

They just neutered him a bit too much, I think. There seems to be several cards like that in this regard that either have too many drawbacks to be as utilitarian as I'd like (just my opinion, of course) OR that have little annoying ticky-tack limitations slapped on that make those cards just a lot less useful than they could or should be. Of course this is an issue that will be less aggravating as more and more cards pour into the card pool (and it's just my opinion, of course).

i think dormouse meant that RPT handles Sniktch by killing other Skavens, thereby reducing Snicktchk's power (to remove higher-HP units).

if skaven player doesn't assign to Skaven units, the damage is probably going to go to their capital. so win-win./

Ah, there ya go. Okay..thanks for explaining, I just needed to follow the trail a bit further to understand properly.

Have you considered playing Blessing of Isha ON Sniktch? Problem solved and with a style . )

MichalKP said:

The problem is that blessing is dead in another matchups. I think better is Marius

Blessing of isha also solved " the Mortella BIG problem"

It is also effective on our units against Chaos and/or DE deck.