Children of the Empire Spoilers

By Tonbo Karasu, in Legend of the Five Rings: The Card Game

15 minutes ago, Schmoozies said:

Toshimoko as the head instructor of the Kakita Dueling Academy should likely be a 5-coster. That said he should also one would expect feature heavily in a set themed around dueling.

I'm expecting Toshimoko in the Crane Clan Pack, with a new Stronghold built around dueling, honestly. Kuwanon is more likely to be the 4 coster in CotE, probably with a Military focus around attacking alone, like an upgraded Brash Samurai or Cautious Scout.

3 hours ago, BayushiFugu said:

There is always Shosuro Hametsu (poison master)

I've got you covered there :)

On 12/15/2018 at 9:57 AM, Tonbo Karasu said:

So, I was thinking about the 4-costers for the other clans. A couple leap out, but the others are a bit more difficult:

  • Crane - Doji Kuwanan
  • Lion - Matsu Tsuko or Kitsu Motso (Tsuko might be a 5 in the future)
  • Phoenix - Isawa Eju
  • Scorpion - Shosuro Hametsu (or Shosuro Hyobu?)
  • Unicorn - Utaku Kamoko or Shinjo Yasamura

Any opinions?

Guess who figured out how to use multiquote :D

1 hour ago, Kakita Shiro said:

Nah, I still think it's going to be Kuwanan. He, like all the other known 4-costers, were featured fairly heavily in the printed fiction. I suspect Toshimoko will appear in the Crane pack or possibly also in CotE, but as a 5-coster.

1 hour ago, Schmoozies said:

Toshimoko as the head instructor of the Kakita Dueling Academy should likely be a 5-coster. That said he should also one would expect feature heavily in a set themed around dueling.

1 hour ago, sndwurks said:

I'm expecting Toshimoko in the Crane Clan Pack, with a new Stronghold built around dueling, honestly. Kuwanon is more likely to be the 4 coster in CotE, probably with a Military focus around attacking alone, like an upgraded Brash Samurai or Cautious Scout.

Toshimoko has had more written about him than Yakamo, about the same as Hitomi , and those two are both coming up in Children of the Empire. We already have the 5-cost Kakita daimyo, despite what some people think about him personally. In some ways, Kuwanan is the opposite of Hotaru and I can imagine him being set up (by the writers) as an alternate to rally round, thus being a 5-cost.

We'll see.

I suspect that the Crane 4-cost will be Daidoji Uji, although my only proof to support that is that the guy is the first Crane Minicrate model , so it would seem odd to not introduce him more properly before that comes out.

2 minutes ago, Mangod said:

I suspect that the Crane 4-cost will be Daidoji Uji, although my only proof to support that is that the guy is the first Cra  ne Minicrate model , so it would seem odd to not introduce him more properly before that comes out.

I'm guessing we'll see at least 2-3 of these picks with the ClanPack as well, they're all good choices.

Uji could be a Conflict Character as well.

Edited by Soshi Saibankan
On 12/28/2018 at 2:03 PM, Mangod said:

Maybe that didn't happen in this setting? What was and wasn't carried over from O5R is in a permanent state of Schrödinger's Setting until someone from the story team speaks up.

Or maybe they just missed adding that trait, what do I know?

Problably, hitomi was the mirumoto daimyo and now she is a hatamoto. Do we know somethig about Yakamo being the son of Kisada?

22 hours ago, Ishi Tonu said:

As Daimyo she would probably get fewer opportunities to fight and instead, have to deal with the day to day minutia that the role entails. It seems to me that Kamoko not being Daimyo makes more sense.

Poor kamoko in OL5R, she was famous becase she had to stay at home attending bureaucratics, like Hitomi, Tsuko or Uji . 😂

54 minutes ago, Daigotsu Arashi said:

Problably, hitomi was the mirumoto daimyo and now she is a hatamoto. Do we know somethig about Yakamo being the son of Kisada?

Yakamo and his siblings are all called out as Kisada's children during the intro Crab fiction.

1 hour ago, Daigotsu Arashi said:

Poor kamoko in OL5R, she was famous becase she had to stay at home........

I rember her being more famous for

Turn 1: Kamoko

Turn 2: attack, no infantry, Kamoko breaks province

Edited by Ishi Tonu

Just realized there's no 5-cost in-clan characters in Children, I guess I'll have to wait for my 5-cost Shinobi ^^' From the Shadows might skew things a bit like it does for Aramoro.

It kinda of baffles me that they'll print 1/3 stats for Scorpion two costs (another one) but I suppose their Dynasty is supposedly bad, right? Then again, I just personally think 1/3 is the best statline for any two costs, one edge allows you to freely poke and the other allows you to threaten break on an undefended province.

OP updated with new info.

I think I called Hametsu :)

BTW, CotE has been delayed to February, instead of January.

I wonder if this will affect the release of the other Clan Packs and Cycles.

So good to be Scorpion, thrilled by the spoilers!

Kirei-ko is an answer we didnt have yet :)

Uhm, I'm sure that answer previously existed in For Shame (albeit some work) but especially with Fate Worse Than Death. But sure, I guess you meant an out of conflict bow. Waiting for a Scorpion attachment removal, as Call in Favours is pretty lame to use on Cloud The Mind.

Honestly, Cloud the Mind seems like a better answer than Kirei-Ko when thinking the gauntlet of things I'd rather stop than allow happen and bow re-actively. Other than Mitsu blocking a sacred sanctuary.

If it's not January, is it March? I believe there was mention that FFG February release were less likely because of the manufacturers?

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13 minutes ago, Hordeoverseer said:

Uhm, I'm sure that answer previously existed in For Shame (albeit some work) but especially with Fate Worse Than Death. But sure, I guess you meant an out of conflict bow. Waiting for a Scorpion attachment removal, as Call in Favours is pretty lame to use on Cloud The Mind.

Honestly, Cloud the Mind seems like a better answer than Kirei-Ko when thinking the gauntlet of things I'd rather stop than allow happen and bow re-actively. Other than Mitsu blocking a sacred sanctuary.

If it's not January, is it March? I believe there was mention that FFG February release were less likely because of the manufacturers?

Because it opens up the board to gain the edge in the conflict phase. You bow the guy they might have used later in the turn. And you can run For Shame! as well.

21 minutes ago, Hordeoverseer said:

Uhm, I'm sure that answer previously existed in For Shame (albeit some work) but especially with Fate Worse Than Death. But sure, I guess you meant an out of conflict bow. Waiting for a Scorpion attachment removal, as Call in Favours is pretty lame to use on Cloud The Mind.

Honestly, Cloud the Mind seems like a better answer than Kirei-Ko when thinking the gauntlet of things I'd rather stop than allow happen and bow re-actively. Other than Mitsu blocking a sacred sanctuary.

If it's not January, is it March? I believe there was mention that FFG February release were less likely because of the manufacturers?

The only issue with February releases is that most of the Chinese manufacturers shut down for a good chunk of the month for New Years. As long as production is wrapped up before mid-January it shouldn't effect release. However, based on how last minute this announcement and the normal lead times for manufacturing I would expect this delay is more on the shipping end than manufacturing side.

Regarding the Release Date of Children of the Empire, we only know that it has been delayed until after January. As @Schmoozies points out above, this appears to be a shipping issue and not manufacturing. Ironically, this might actually be a result of our current governmental shut down here, stateside. While the Customs and Border Patrol does not shut down entirely during an event like this, my research into the situation has revealed that their customer service center DOES go on furlough, as does the Consumer Product Safety Commission. In the case of the latter, anything behind held up for inspection is SUPPOSED to simply be released, but as anyone who has dealt with supply chain logistics within governments can tell you, Murphy is the only consultant who never takes a day off.

Yasuki Procurer feels a lot like Meishodo Wielder to me. A 2-fate 2/2 is a moderately useful body, but not for that cost. If you can get the discount, worth the buy. Probably easier to trigger the discount on, though? The dishonor hurts a little bit, but I think most people would pay an honor for 1 extra fate. Not sure if I'll end up playing him in my Crab decks, but respect for a courtier with 2 military :P

15 minutes ago, AradonTemplar said:

Yasuki Procurer feels a lot like Meishodo Wielder to me. A 2-fate 2/2 is a moderately useful body, but not for that cost. If you can get the discount, worth the buy. Probably easier to trigger the discount on, though? The dishonor hurts a little bit, but I think most people would pay an honor for 1 extra fate. Not sure if I'll end up playing him in my Crab decks, but respect for a courtier with 2 military :P

The fact that he in theory can be used for Dynasty characters (assuming you are comfortable conceding the passing fate) I feel makes it more valuable.

In any other Clan, he's meh. You have to understand that this is the first 2/2 Dynasty Crab character with a greater than 3 stat sum that doesn't have a restriction (like the yojimbo). Coupled with the rare courtier trait and zero glory, it's something to consider. that probably says more about Crab side dynasty than anything. At this point, the ability is just icing.

I'm sure the Lion chats will blow up when they finally get their 2/2 for 2 :D

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54 minutes ago, Hordeoverseer said:

I'm sure the Lion chats will blow up when they finally get their 2/2 for 2 :D

Honestly we've given up on ever seeing anything that isn't a 2/1 with maybe a conditional boost like our 2/1 +2 Pol if you are more honorable courtier.

Troll5r released some spoilers... kinda.

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Putting this here in case somebody want to have some fun trying to guess the original text before they release the full spoiler.

True Strike Kenjutsu: ......Honor and destroy the loser.

Smuggling Deal: .....choose an attachment on an opposing character. Move that attachment to another character participating in this conflict. Ready that character.

or

The ONI in my says:

"Pick up ashtray and kill father"

1 hour ago, Tabris2k said:

So this is what Yoritomo looks like without the fancy helmet. Neat.