Children of the Empire Spoilers

By Tonbo Karasu, in Legend of the Five Rings: The Card Game

Well, that's updated the first post.

There are a couple of interesting implications from this - Lion and Phoenix probably have Holdings, but the Unicorn probably don't. The predicition of 5 Dynasty 4 conflict is still holding up fairly well.

So, I just remembered a ruling that if Unicorn triggers Endless Plain's ability, it counts as the opponent breaking the province. Which means Unicorn can now break their own Endless Plain to honor and ready Kamoko. Worth it?

16 minutes ago, Kaito Kikaze said:

So, I just remembered a ruling that if Unicorn triggers Endless Plain's ability, it counts as the opponent breaking the province. Which means Unicorn can now break their own Endless Plain to honor and ready Kamoko. Worth it?

Honestly? Yes, because it also has a shot at killing one of their bodies, but only in a Seeker of Water deck for greater equity.

Any Phoenix looking to play Gift of Amaterasu?

I love the art on it, but I don't think I'd want to play it. If it cost 0, I'd try it out, but not as it stands. I do like playing Path of Man, but 1 is too much just to honor a character.

3 hours ago, AradonTemplar said:

I love the art on it, but I don't think I'd want to play it. If it cost 0, I'd try it out, but not as it stands. I do like playing Path of Man, but 1 is too much just to honor a character.

Play Inquisitive Ishika, use it on a Fire conflict, boom! Free. 😉

20 hours ago, Kaito Kikaze said:

Play Inquisitive Ishika, use it on a Fire conflict, boom! Free. 😉

So you have to have Inquisitive Ishika in play, have Gift of Amaterasu on hand, be at a fire conflict, and win said conflict by 5 or more... to honor one character.

Seems easy.

Edited by Tabris2k
2 minutes ago, Tabris2k said:

So you have to have Inquisitive Ishika in play, have Gift of Amaterasu on hand, be at a fire conflict, and win said conflict for 5 or more... to honor one character.

Seems easy.

Phoenix comborific strategy at its finest, lol.

Yeah, as much as I like my Ishika, Inquisitive Ishika's never justified her cost to me. Maybe when we get more spells I can make a deck that will consistently get 2-3 discounts from her, but the underlying problem is that paying for conflict cards is not good, and a deck that consistently utilizes Inquisitive Ishika's ability is a deck that suffers more when you don't have her in play.

But I guess if I'm playing Path of Man, I can just jam one of these next to it, play them with one paying for the other, and try and just snowball every game. Swing hard, honor dudes, keep swinging hard.

On 12/26/2018 at 10:14 PM, Coyote Walks said:

Utaku Kamoko - Better than Shono. And that is saying alot. It would be nice if the Unicorn Champions had the Champion keyword.

Kamoko is no clan champion? She's "just" a Battle Maiden.

Duplicate, sorry.

Edited by ichaos1985
13 hours ago, Soshi Saibankan said:

Any Phoenix looking to play Gift of Amaterasu?

I could see it as a 1 of, because winning by 5 or more is pretty easy, but chances are high that I will cut it after some games.

On 12/15/2018 at 9:57 AM, Tonbo Karasu said:

So, I was thinking about the 4-costers for the other clans. A couple leap out, but the others are a bit more difficult:

  • Crane - Doji Kuwanan
  • Lion - Matsu Tsuko or Kitsu Motso (Tsuko might be a 5 in the future)
  • Phoenix - Isawa Eju
  • Scorpion - Shosuro Hametsu (or Shosuro Hyobu?)
  • Unicorn - Utaku Kamoko or Shinjo Yasamura

Any opinions?

Well, I called Lion and Unicorn and was in the ballpark for Phoenix (wrong Master).

I'm going to modify my Crane suggestion - with all the duelling, it's going to be Toshimoko.

2 hours ago, ichaos1985 said:

Kamoko is no clan champion? She's "just" a Battle Maiden.

Isn't she the Utaku daimyō? Not that she needs it to kick butt...

19 minutes ago, Khudzlin said:

Isn't she the Utaku daimyō? Not that she needs it to kick butt...

According to the traits she isn't the Utaku Daimyo. Given that CotE is a recap, it has to be her mother at that point.

Edited by Ignithas
23 minutes ago, Ignithas said:

According to the traits she isn't the Utaku Daimyo. Given that CotE is a recap, it has to be her mother at that point.

Her mother was killed by a lion samurai when she was a child. She chose her mother's name in her gempukku. So yeah ,she is the Utaku daimyo

1 hour ago, Daigotsu Arashi said:

Her mother was killed by a lion samurai when she was a child. She chose her mother's name in her gempukku. So yeah ,she is the Utaku daimyo

Maybe that didn't happen in this setting? What was and wasn't carried over from O5R is in a permanent state of Schrödinger's Setting until someone from the story team speaks up.

Or maybe they just missed adding that trait, what do I know?

Any idea of anybody's getting strongholds in Children? I feel kinda bad about Unicorn having 3 stronghold options (assuming you still consider their original a legit option) while most clans still only have one. I know the rest of the clans' packs are coming out in 2019, but that could be a long wait.

1 hour ago, twinstarbmc said:

Any idea of anybody's getting strongholds in Children? I feel kinda bad about Unicorn having 3 stronghold options (assuming you still consider their original a legit option) while most clans still only have one. I know the rest of the clans' packs are coming out in 2019, but that could be a long wait.

No, a stronghold should be number 1, and that’s already the spoiled Air province.

4 hours ago, Daigotsu Arashi said:

Her mother was killed by a lion samurai when she was a child. She chose her mother's name in her gempukku. So yeah ,she is the Utaku daimyo

There have been numerous changes to the titled characters in the setting so far, so I take this to mean that Kamoko isn't the daimyo, rather than there being a mistake.

41 minutes ago, Tonbo Karasu said:

There have been numerous changes to the titled characters in the setting so far, so I take this to mean that Kamoko isn't the daimyo, rather than there being a mistake.

As Daimyo she would probably get fewer opportunities to fight and instead, have to deal with the day to day minutia that the role entails. It seems to me that Kamoko not being Daimyo makes more sense.

Edited by Ishi Tonu
7 hours ago, Tonbo Karasu said:

Well, I called Lion and Unicorn and was in the ballpark for Phoenix (wrong Master).

I'm going to modify my Crane suggestion - with all the duelling, it's going to be Toshimoko.

I hope for a Shinobi that interacts with poisons (costing one less or recycle). Or an effect if the target is equiped with a poison attachment

5 minutes ago, Soshi Saibankan said:

I hope for a Shinobi that interacts with poisons (costing one less or recycle). Or an effect if the target is equiped with a poison attachment

There is always Shosuro Hametsu (poison master)

10 hours ago, Tonbo Karasu said:

Well, I called Lion and Unicorn and was in the ballpark for Phoenix (wrong Master).

I'm going to modify my Crane suggestion - with all the duelling, it's going to be Toshimoko.

Nah, I still think it's going to be Kuwanan. He, like all the other known 4-costers, were featured fairly heavily in the printed fiction. I suspect Toshimoko will appear in the Crane pack or possibly also in CotE, but as a 5-coster.

Edited by Kakita Shiro
4 minutes ago, Kakita Shiro said:

Nah, I still think it's going to be Kuwanan. He, like all the other known 4-costers, were featured fairly heavily in the printed fiction. I suspect Toshimoko will appear in the Crane pack or possibly also in CotE, but as a 5-coster.

Toshimoko as the head instructor of the Kakita Dueling Academy should likely be a 5-coster. That said he should also one would expect feature heavily in a set themed around dueling.