So I've not been playing armada for long and looking to buy my first large ships

My partner and I mostly play together so I want something relatively balanced but able to against friends fleets

For the empire I own the core set victory and arquitens aswell as imp squadrons 1and want to pick up the isd

For rebels I have the core cr-90. Nebulon b and rebel squadrons 1 and am thinking of getting either the liberty or home one ( really hard choice)

Are these enough ships for 400 points?

The lists I've come up with are these. I want to use the core ships but am happy to drop the victory if need be. I love all the squadrons so tried to incorporate all of them in somehow.

Name: Untitled Fleet
Faction: Imperial
Commander: Moff Jerjerrod

Assault:
Defense:
Navigation:

Imperial II (120)
• Moff Jerjerrod (23)
= 143 Points

Arquitens Command Cruiser (59)
= 59 Points

Squadrons:
• Howlrunner (16)
• 2 x TIE Fighter Squadron (16)
• 2 x TIE Interceptor Squadron (22)
• Major Rhymer (16)
• TIE Bomber Squadron (9)
• TIE Advanced Squadron (12)
= 91 Points

Total Points: 293

I thought either the arquitens or a victory So it would be around 100 points left over

For rebels

Name: Untitled Fleet
Faction: Rebel
Commander: General Dodonna

Assault:
Defense:
Navigation:

MC80 Battle Cruiser (103)
• General Dodonna (20)
= 123 Points

CR90 Corvette A (44)
= 44 Points

Nebulon-B Escort Frigate (57)
= 57 Points

Squadrons:
• Dutch Vander (16)
• Wedge Antilles (19)
• 2 x A-wing Squadron (22)
• B-wing Squadron (14)
• X-wing Squadron (13)
= 84 Points

Total Points: 308

I havent decided if my large ship should be liberty or home one. Home one would definitely be better for my squadrons but the liberty is just so cool!

For each fleet are these enough ships? Is 100 points to much for upgrades? I want both to be squadron heavy as I find that aspect of the game fun.

Help me with my lists please

398/400 Opening Salvo , Contested Outpost , Dangerous Territory
ISD-II, Jerjerrod , Gunnery Team, ECM, HTTs, Relentless 166
VSD-I, Boosted Comms, ACMs 84
Arquitens CL, DTTs, RBDs 64
Howlrunner, 2 TIE-I, 2 TIE-F, 2 TIE-B, TIE-A 84

The above fleet should do ok. You could take it to a local tournament. It isn't fully modernised but packs a punch. If you had lots of upgrade packs it would be nice to add Leading shots to the ISD and change HTTs for XI7s. External Racks and QBTs on the VSD-I. Strategic Advisers are good too for the flagship's officer slot.

For your next purchase think about a flotilla for the cheap activation and Comms Net. Rogues & Villains too helps squadron heavy builds giving intel to free them up to move elsewhere or attack ships. R&V is also a pack for both factions so good for the Rebels too.

For the Rebels I suggest buying the Home One pack. With only 3 ships at 400 points you will need a lot of squadrons and the liberty can only control 2. The Command cruiser can control 4 and so with the Nebulon helping out at least on turn 2 you will do better.

393/400, Most Wanted , Fire Lanes , Superior Positions
MC80C, Dodonna , ECM, Boosted Comms, Defiance, Engine Techs, Navigation Officer 156
Nebulon-B escort, 57
CR90B, Leia, SW7, 47
Wedge, Dutch, Tycho, Luke, 2 B-Wings, X-Wing, Y-Wing, A-Wing 133

I was thinking of adding a second cr 90 to my rebel fleet or a flotilla. Cr 90 are easier to get a hold of though. But for the empire I wasn't sure? Defs wanna get a gozanti carrier. But would an ISD 2 and acquitens and gozanti be viable? Or a gladiator? 2x arquitens thematicaly sounds fun or even an ISD and interdictor. Not really sure if I wanted to use the victory atm.

Name: Untitled Fleet
Faction: Imperial
Commander: Moff Jerjerrod

Assault:
Defense:
Navigation:

Imperial II (120)
• Moff Jerjerrod (23)
= 143 Points

Arquitens Command Cruiser (59)
= 59 Points

Arquitens Light Cruiser (54)
= 54 Points

Squadrons:
• Howlrunner (16)
• Major Rhymer (16)
• TIE Advanced Squadron (12)
• TIE Bomber Squadron (9)
• 2 x TIE Fighter Squadron (16)
• 2 x TIE Interceptor Squadron (22)
= 91 Points

Total Points: 347

Replacing 1x arquitenswith a gozanti drops me down to 321 points

Name: Untitled Fleet
Faction: Rebel
Commander: General Dodonna

Assault:
Defense:
Navigation:

MC80 Command Cruiser (106)
• General Dodonna (20)
= 126 Points

CR90 Corvette A (44)
= 44 Points

Nebulon-B Escort Frigate (57)
= 57 Points

CR90 Corvette B (39)
= 39 Points

Squadrons:
• Wedge Antilles (19)
• X-wing Squadron (13)
• Dutch Vander (16)
• 2 x A-wing Squadron (22)
• B-wing Squadron (14)
= 84 Points

Total Points: 350

Replacing to cr90 b would drop me to 330 points but love the idea of having the transports in there

Gozantis are viable with everything. I’d drop the TIE bomber squadron (no intel makes it a lot less useful) to give the Arquitens the Dual Turbolaser Turrets they come with and love. As soon as you get two copies of ECM and Leading Shots, each of the larges would very much appreciate them as well. Looks pretty balanced so far.

So I've been working on my lists for me and a friend to try out. I went heavy on squadrons and light on ships and this is what I have come up with

Name: Untitled Fleet
Faction: Rebel
Commander: General Dodonna
Assault:
Defense:
Navigation:
CR90 Corvette A (44)
• Leia Organa (3)
• H9 Turbolasers (8)
• Tantive IV (3)
= 58 Points
Nebulon-B Escort Frigate (57)
• Slaved Turrets (6)
• Redemption (8)
= 71 Points
MC80 Command Cruiser (106)
• General Dodonna (20)
• Ray Antilles (7)
• Boosted Comms (4)
• Redundant Shields (8)
• Home One (7)
= 152 Points
Squadrons:
• Wedge Antilles (19)
• X-wing Squadron (13)
• Tycho Celchu (16)
• A-wing Squadron (11)
• Keyan Farlander (20)
• B-wing Squadron (14)
• Dutch Vander (16)
• Y-wing Squadron (10)
= 119 Points
Total Points: 400

Name: Untitled Fleet
Faction: Imperial
Commander: Grand Moff Tarkin
Assault:
Defense:
Navigation:
Arquitens Command Cruiser (59)
• Admiral Chiraneau (10)
• Reinforced Blast Doors (5)
• Centicore (3)
= 77 Points
Imperial II (120)
• Grand Moff Tarkin (38)
• Weapons Liaison (3)
• Gunnery Team (7)
• Boosted Comms (4)
• XX-9 Turbolasers (5)
• Relentless (3)
= 180 Points
Gozanti Assault Carriers (28)
• Bomber Command Center (8)
• Boosted Comms (4)
= 40 Points
Squadrons:
• Howlrunner (16)
• 2 x TIE Fighter Squadron (16)
• 2 x TIE Advanced Squadron (24)
• Major Rhymer (16)
• TIE Bomber Squadron (9)
• 2 x TIE Interceptor Squadron (22)
= 103 Points
Total Points: 400

Im still not sure if I should add in a second cr90 and the victory but I wanted a little of everything without making the empire to powerfull