Rising From the Grave of September - Steel Command

By BiggsIRL, in Star Wars: Armada

What are your thoughts on using multiple Intel Officers in conjunction with The Senate?

50 minutes ago, BiggsIRL said:

7 minutes ago, Piratical Moustache said:

What are your thoughts on using multiple Intel Officers in conjunction with The Senate?

Lol just for fun

Fleet 360 (386/400)
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Victory II-class Star Destroyer (85 + 67)
+ Emperor Palpatine (35)
+ Intel Officer (7)
+ Gunnery Team (7)
+ Disposable Capacitors (3)
+ NK-7 Ion Cannons (10)
+ Quad Battery Turrets (5)
Victory II-class Star Destroyer (85 + 32)
+ Intel Officer (7)
+ Gunnery Team (7)
+ Disposable Capacitors (3)
+ NK-7 Ion Cannons (10)
+ Quad Battery Turrets (5)
Victory II-class Star Destroyer (85 + 32)
+ Intel Officer (7)
+ Gunnery Team (7)
+ Disposable Capacitors (3)
+ NK-7 Ion Cannons (10)
+ Quad Battery Turrets (5)

If you evade good bye evade. If you brace good bye brace. So you may redirect but when you do then chose that redirect to discard it. Lol.

Too bad none dares to say: too situational, close to poor. Id go Vader anytime my fleet needs its dmg boosted. Also, Vader removes the need for LS, OE, leaving those slots open for something else.

Am I going too far if I say Ozzel+2×IO>Palpatine?

2 minutes ago, Coldhands said:

Am I going too far if I say Ozzel+2×IO>Palpatine?

Yes.

The ability to clear out scatters on squadrons cannot be understated. Let’s see your Chokemaster and Intel Buddies do that ?

Just now, Drasnighta said:

Yes.

The ability to clear out scatters on squadrons cannot be understated. Let’s see your Chokemaster and Intel Buddies do that ?

It became my habit to have Mauler around with minimal escort(Dengar,Zertik,Tempest), and Warlord with Kallus, H9, Ruthless, ordenance pods. Obviously ozzel aint good with this. But leaves Palp situational, at best. Sloane fleets are declining in numbers in my are.

28 minutes ago, Coldhands said:

It became my habit to have Mauler around with minimal escort(Dengar,Zertik,Tempest), and Warlord with Kallus, H9, Ruthless, ordenance pods. Obviously ozzel aint good with this. But leaves Palp situational, at best. Sloane fleets are declining in numbers in my are.

All admirals are situational at best ?

1 hour ago, Piratical Moustache said:

What are your thoughts on using multiple Intel Officers in conjunction with The Senate?

I prefer more of a balanced list than that would allow. I think his best benefit is freeing up officer slots for more useful things than Intel Officer.

57 minutes ago, BiggsIRL said:

I prefer more of a balanced list than that would allow. I think his best benefit is freeing up officer slots for more useful things than Intel Officer.

Does Sheev strip only one token per round off a ship? If I target the Brace for Round 3 for example and my 2 ISDs shoot at a Liberty, does the Liberty lose both Brace tokens if it uses them?

That's one thing that wasn't entirely clear to me.

Just now, Piratical Moustache said:

Does Sheev strip only one token per round off a ship? If I target the Brace for Round 3 for example and my 2 ISDs shoot at a Liberty, does the Liberty lose both Brace tokens if it uses them?

That's one thing that wasn't entirely clear to me.

Whenever a named token is spent, it’s discarded instead.

Not once per ship.

Whenever.

A liberty with Walex could lose 3 brace tokens on that turn if it were not careful.

3 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

Whenever a named token is spent, it’s discarded instead.

Not once per ship.

Whenever.

A liberty with Walex could lose 3 brace tokens on that turn if it were not careful.

Thanks, that increases my interest in Palpatine as a Commander.

7 hours ago, BiggsIRL said:

Thanks for the article, and reminding us of Armada! Been so quiet on here recently...

I think using the ability to combo ships AND drop a Maarek double tap (other squads are available) all with IO can be very nasty. The combo/order of defence tokens would probably change depending on your opponent’s fleet.

vs. Big Heavy ships (no evades, few squads)

- Redirect (drill through shields)

- Brace (big hitter turn)

- Contain (when shooting into the hull)

vs. bomber aces (few combat ships, lots of brace squads)

- Brace (on alpha strike turn, to hit harder)

- Redirect (vs. ships)

- Evade (as they try to escape)

etc.

Question - would Jan Ors’ brace be affected by Palps’ ability?

4 hours ago, Piratical Moustache said:

Thanks, that increases my interest in Palpatine as a Commander.

To be fair, a liberty that has had to brace three times in a round is probably going to explode soon anyway!

1 minute ago, Ophion said:

To be fair, a liberty that has had to brace three times in a round is probably going to explode soon anyway!

But the explosion will be more spectacular!

2 hours ago, Mundo said:

Question - would Jan Ors’ brace be affected by Palps’ ability?

Question: Why wouldn’t it? :)

Hint: it’s a good question.

Based in the RAWest of RAW - it would IF she was using her braces on herself OR another unique squadron... but not on a generic, as ship or unique squadron is a trigger.

EDIT: The above is an example of me being wrong, and admitting it :)

Also, if team games, you can’t Sloane a Palp off, before anyone asks.

Edited by Drasnighta
1 hour ago, Drasnighta said:

Question: Why wouldn’t it?

Hint: it’s a good question.

Based in the RAWest of RAW - it would IF she was using her braces on herself OR another unique squadron... but not on a generic, as ship or unique squadron is a trigger.

I probably should dig out the physical Jan card to be sure, but I don't see "unique" mentioned on palp or the faq version of Jan. For that matter, I can't see a reason that the Intel officer has to choose a defense token belonging to the defender. Just "choose a defense token."

2 minutes ago, Baltanok said:

I probably should dig out the physical Jan card to be sure, but I don't see "unique" mentioned on palp or the faq version of Jan. For that matter, I can't see a reason that the Intel officer has to choose a defense token belonging to the defender. Just "choose a defense token."

No, dude, you are TOTALLY correct.

Palpatine is "Ship or Squadron".

I thought he was (erroneously) "Ship or Unique Squadron".

Doesn't MATTER who spends the Brace, wether its Jan or the Target.

Palp will Eat it if its been Declared that turn.

Simple.

As.

That.

#IStandCorrected

On the IO issue you mentioned? Its a known fact at this point - it allows Vader to eat his OWN tokens to power Devestator faster... :) You nominate any defense token on the board, and if its spent, its eaten - its just usually on the defender, and occasionally on Jan or Yourself if you're being tricky.

Edited by Drasnighta
27 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

Doesn't MATTER who spends the Brace, wether its Jan or the Target.

This is something that a lot of people seem to be missing... Jan only spends the defense tokens when she is defending.

jan-ors.png

Note how it is the defending squadron that is spending Jan's tokens, not Jan herself.

3 minutes ago, Astrodar said:

This is something that a lot of people seem to be missing... Jan only spends the defense tokens when she is defending.

jan-ors.png

Note how it is the defending squadron that is spending Jan's tokens, not Jan herself.

That only applies to accuracy I thought.

Tokens are still being spent it says.

Edited by TallGiraffe
Just now, TallGiraffe said:

That only applies to accuracy I thought.

From the RRG for Accuracy:

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Spend Accuracy (accuracy icon) Icons: The attacker can spend one or more of its (accuracy) icons to choose the same number of the defender’s defense tokens. The chosen tokens cannot be spent during this attack.

This specifies that accuracy icons can only target defense tokens belonging to the defender, so Jan's can not be targeted unless she is the defender (as clarified in the FAQ).

Jan's ability:

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While a friendly squadron at distance 1-2 is defending, it can spend your defense tokens.

Jan's ability is to allow nearby friendly squadrons access to her defense tokens. But the defending squadron is still the one spending the token. This is why Palpatine's ability would cause the discard.

21 minutes ago, Astrodar said:

From the RRG for Accuracy:

This specifies that accuracy icons can only target defense tokens belonging to the defender, so Jan's can not be targeted unless she is the defender (as clarified in the FAQ).

Jan's ability:

Jan's ability is to allow nearby friendly squadrons access to her defense tokens. But the defending squadron is still the one spending the token. This is why Palpatine's ability would cause the discard.

I know that

Its also only tokens spent during the "Spend Defense Token" step, so as above no Sloane during multi-player games, and no peeling off TRC evades.

41 minutes ago, BiggsIRL said:

Its also only tokens spent during the "Spend Defense Token" step, so as above no Sloane during multi-player games, and no peeling off TRC evades.

Nor Vader either.

****, we're still writing articles?!

Ummm....

Oops?

5 hours ago, Truthiness said:

****, we're still writing articles?!

Ummm....

Oops?

It's the royal "We".