2 hours ago, Hiemfire said:

So it swaps the reposition abilities in relation to the T-65 (T-70 has boost native without the config card) and gives it the ability to fire 3 in bullseye when closed. Is it viable to open the S-Foils when your T-65 has torps?

Not the fact that it can fire its primary out of its bullseye arc, the fact that it can equip a cannon which is a secondary attack and thus not affected by the closed s-foils limitation. IE if they release a decent cannon upgrade the T-70 can take that uses its front arc fully, why bother with the opening your s-foils? Of course with the T-70's base cost and the cost of strong cannons there it might not be as cost efficient, but if you ARE taking a cannon I don't see why bother opening the wings when it just means losing some reposition ability.

On 10/3/2018 at 2:10 PM, RebelProfundity said:

Looks absolutely wonderful, really excited about both the FO and Resistance factions.

Anyone want to volunteer to make an alt art for Paige Tico with this picture or something similar?

If it hasn't been done already, here you go!

nothing fancy just used this: http://x-wing-cardcreator.com/upgrades/

1 hour ago, Animewarsdude said:

Not the fact that it can fire its primary out of its bullseye arc, the fact that it can equip a cannon which is a secondary attack and thus not affected by the closed s-foils limitation. IE if they release a decent cannon upgrade the T-70 can take that uses its front arc fully, why bother with the opening your s-foils? Of course with the T-70's base cost and the cost of strong cannons there it might not be as cost efficient, but if you ARE taking a cannon I don't see why bother opening the wings when it just means losing some reposition ability.

Poe can be flown like Soontir Fel now.

Poe with Pred, HLC, R4 astromech. If Fel can get his focus often enough, why not Poe? And arguably Poe is more resilient. Though he'll probably be more expensive.

1 minute ago, Animewarsdude said:

IE if they release    a decent cannon upgrade the T-70 can take               that uses its front arc fully, why bother with the opening your s-foils   ?        

Why bother opening the S-foils with a T-65 that has Proton torps?? It has the same action bar as the T-70 other than the linked action...

Just now, Hiemfire said:

Why bother opening the S-foils with a T-65 that has Proton torps?? It has the same action bar as the T-70 other than the linked action...

Because 2 charges and required target lock versus some cannon that just requires something to be in arc?

Just now, Animewarsdude said:

Because 2 charges and required target lock versus some cannon that just requires something to be in arc?

Lock doesn't require the S-Foils to be open. My point is that you can already do the same secondary weapon shenanigans to an extent with the T-65, aside from Poe's pilot skill. The only real difference between the two configuration cards when they are on the ships are the bullseye arc 3 red primary for the T-70 and the Focus>boost vs focus>barrel roll...

Anyone think there may be a Jedi Master Luke Skywalker crew in the Resistance Kit? It'd be nice and very thematic. Or even a General Leia Organa (Leader of the Resistance) crew that’d be a nice sendoff to Carrie Fisher.

Both 1 force and dealing with either evades, coordinate or focus type actions possibly.

Just now, Cgriffith said:

Anyone think there may be a Jedi Master Luke Skywalker crew in the Resistance Kit? I’d be nice and very thematic. Or even a General Leia Organa (Leader of the Resistance) crew that’d be a nice sendoff to Carrie Fisher.

Both 1 force and dealing with either evades, coordinate or focus type actions possibly.

Luke crew no, Leia crew probably.

Just now, Hiemfire said:

Luke crew no, Leia crew probably.

Why do you think Luke will not be included? He was very prominent in The Last Jedi.

6 minutes ago, Cgriffith said:

Why do you think Luke will not be included? He was very prominent in The Last Jedi.

He wasn't ever on a ship in TLJ...

6 minutes ago, Hiemfire said:

He wasn't ever on a ship in TLJ...

Reasonable. But fluff hopefully wins out.

5 minutes ago, Cgriffith said:

Reasonable. But fluff hopefully wins out.

Wouldn't fluff winning out mean that what I think in this case would be right. IE no Luke crew? It would be a game balance/mechanic win if he is included as a crew option.

1 hour ago, Hiemfire said:

Lock doesn't require the S-Foils to be open. My point is that you can already do the same secondary weapon shenanigans to an extent with the T-65, aside from Poe's pilot skill. The only real difference between the two configuration cards when they are on the ships are the bullseye arc 3 red primary for the T-70 and the Focus>boost vs focus>barrel roll...

Taking a Target Lock doesn't require the S-foils to be open, but does mean you can't boost or barrel roll that round unless you previously locked a target in the prior round(s). The T-70 version, if you take a cannon means that you open up your choice of action more, as it doesn't require you taking a Target Lock action to fire it.

43 minutes ago, Hiemfire said:

He wasn't ever on a ship in TLJ...

He walked on the Falcon long enough for R2 to ***** at him.

14 hours ago, player3010587 said:

Dear God, we have a fun conversation about plastic crack and the salt comes in about the source material. I was "meh" on TLJ, but absolutely loved the content it produced for the game. Furthermore, I want to enjoy my republic ships (despite disliking the first 2 prequels), and the unbecoming whining will only worsen by then. Star Wars fans have hated Star Wars more than anyone else since 1999.

Seriously, right? Why can't people just... Be happy? Good lord. But, seems proper discussion has continued.

And quite frankly, this bomber looks amazing.

15 hours ago, Sithborg said:

I am failing to see how this is more powerful than Vessery.

Because it works off defence dice? Because it's totally actionless and doesn't require at least one other ship to spend at least one action getting their own target lock first? Because it almost certainly isn't going to cost 88 points just to get on the board?

It's like Vessery, Tarn Mison and FCS all rolled into one with the only drawback being the requirement to spend a blank die (the horror!).

5 minutes ago, GuacCousteau said:

Because it works off defence dice? Because it's totally actionless and doesn't require at least one other ship to spend at least one action getting their own target lock first? Because it almost certainly isn't going to cost 88 points just to get on the board?

It's like Vessery, Tarn Mison and FCS all rolled into one with the only drawback being the requirement to spend a blank die (the horror!).

The main difference is that Vessery is nigh unkillable unless you manage to block him. The Falcon (likely the only Resistance crew carrier for a good long while) will very quickly melt under sustained fire.

2 minutes ago, Okapi said:

The main difference is that Vessery is nigh unkillable unless you manage to block him. 

He's also nigh unplayable in 2e thanks to his cost and the lack of decent Imperial ships with target lock.

Not really my point though, I wasn't trying to do a one on one comparison - obviously that's impossible as you can't remove Vessery from his chassis. I was just responding to the idea that this card wasn't more powerful than Vessery's effect, i.e his ability. If Vessery's ability was Rose's, he'd be absolutely unstoppable. The effect itself is incredibly good.

You're right that it's probably going to be limited by the ships that can take her, but as an upgrade card not a pilot, that means she is forever going to be a balance consideration for the Resistance moving forward. It only takes one wrong ship to get a crew slot for her to really start breaking things.

She also needs to be expensive.

Guys remember, chances are she's OP and has to be overcosted to compensate to make sure she isn't on tables to make very, very angry fans happy.

>Implying Disney has even been trying to listen to the angry types and ever will

7 minutes ago, GuacCousteau said:

He's also nigh unplayable in 2e thanks to his cost and the lack of decent Imperial ships with target lock.

Not really my point though, I wasn't trying to do a one on one comparison - obviously that's impossible as you can't remove Vessery from his chassis. I was just responding to the idea that this card wasn't more powerful than Vessery's effect, i.e his ability. If Vessery's ability was Rose's, he'd be absolutely unstoppable. The effect itself is incredibly good.

You're right that it's probably going to be limited by the ships that can take her, but as an upgrade card not a pilot, that means she is forever going to be a balance consideration for the Resistance moving forward. It only takes one wrong ship to get a crew slot for her to really start breaking things.

She also needs to be expensive.

That's true of all upgrade cards though, and probably partly the reason why there isn't an agility 3, token stacking crew carrier in the game. That might also be why the Reaper, which is certainly faster and more agile looking than a Lambda or a Party Bus, still only rolls 1 green die.

13 hours ago, Forgottenlore said:

I’d be down with a Republic (Stock) 1300.

I always thought Lucas should have put a 1300 in the prequels, but make IT all smooth and chromed when brand new, just to really emphasize just how much modification had been done to the falcon.

... Is this a Solo reference?

7 hours ago, Hiemfire said:

1 agility most likely. Not having any defense die base seems a little out of character for what we've seen of 2.0 so far. Though if it does have 0 agility hull and shield upgrades are dirt cheap for it.

While I think you’re right that it will be 1, I think 0 is more in line with the film, and two of the existing factions have 0 agi ships in 2.0 so it’s not that big of a stretch.

31 minutes ago, ScummyRebel said:

While I think you’re right that it will be 1, I think 0 is more in line with the film, and two of the existing factions have 0 agi ships in 2.0 so it’s not that big of a stretch.

The Decimator and VCX both have Reinforce, is the game-mechanics difference.

11 minutes ago, SpiderMana said:

The Decimator and VCX both have Reinforce, is the game-mechanics difference.

This is absolutely correct and will almost certainly mean the bomber does indeed get 1 agility.

But when you compare what the Ghost can do in Rebels vs what the bomber does in TLJ, it does seem incredibly silly for the bomber to be statted as more agile than the Ghost.

I guess they're expressing that difference in the dial? The Ghost at least gets 1 hard turns and can k-turn.

But still. That bomber shouldn't be dodging anything. Gameplay >>> fluff, I guess.

1 hour ago, GuacCousteau said:

This is absolutely correct and will almost certainly mean the bomber does indeed get 1 agility.

But when you compare what the Ghost can do in Rebels vs what the bomber does in TLJ, it does seem incredibly silly for the bomber to be statted as more agile than the Ghost.

I guess they're expressing that difference in the dial? The Ghost at least gets 1 hard turns and can k-turn.

But still. That bomber shouldn't be dodging anything. Gameplay >>> fluff, I guess.

The sheer size/shape of the Ghost is why it doesn’t have any “agility.” It’s much more agile in the way it flies, as you point out, but it’s such a large target. The Bomber has a relatively slim profile from the front, at least. Plus, while I have yet to see Rebels, I’d guess the Ghost pulls some moves it would never realistically manage if it were in Live Action. It’s just part of being a cartoon.

And lets be real, what’s silly is how easily the Bombers die in the movie. Activating bombs being a separate button-push from dropping them is silly. And the plot-convenience of a TIE wing hitting the bottom of an open Bomber right then was silly. And that ship veering into all of the other bombers but one was silly. And I just wanted more fighter-ship scenes, dangit! ?

5 hours ago, RampancyTW said:

... Is this a Solo reference?

Um... no. Just me wishing that the 1300 in the prequels had been all smooth and shiny so that it made it look like Han’s modifications had been way more extensive than anyone thought.