13 hours ago, Ghostofman said:

It may have been, but I'm citing the finished rules. "Lightsaber Hilts" breakout box pg 177. The last sentence is literally:

I've read in the book that it also requires a mechanics check to build it, so I guess there is conflicting information in the books, but your right it does say that. I'm to tired to find it might be in Endless Vigil. Gotta be at work in 7 hours so gotta crash.

edit.... Its in the game master's tool kit. pg. 23 Says "Once the character obtains the materials, he can construct a lightsaber hilt by Succeeding on an Average Mechanics or Knowledge (Lore) check if the character does not have access to information on how to construct a lightsaber (such as via holocron or other data archive) the GM can either decide that he may not attempt to construct it, or he can increase the difficulty to Daunting."

In the end its up the the GM its his game, if he wants to make building a lightsaber really easy that requires no rolls its his choice. The book does say that lightsabers without crystals were easy to find and the materials as well but getting a crystal was the super hard prat. I mean finding the materials is an average streetwise check and building it is an average check on page 23.

These books have conflicting information in them so its no surprise we both were able to find different answers to this.

7 hours ago, Metalghost said:

I've read in the book that it also requires a mechanics check to build it, so I guess there is conflicting information in the books, but your right it does say that. I'm to tired to find it might be in Endless Vigil. Gotta be at work in 7 hours so gotta crash.

edit.... Its in the game master's tool kit. pg. 23 Says "Once the character obtains the materials, he can construct a lightsaber hilt by Succeeding on an Average Mechanics or Knowledge (Lore) check if the character does not have access to information on how to construct a lightsaber (such as via holocron or other data archive) the GM can either decide that he may not attempt to construct it, or he can increase the difficulty to Daunting."

In the end its up the the GM its his game, if he wants to make building a lightsaber really easy that requires no rolls its his choice. The book does say that lightsabers without crystals were easy to find and the materials as well but getting a crystal was the super hard prat. I mean finding the materials is an average streetwise check and building it is an average check on page 23.

These books have conflicting information in them so its no surprise we both were able to find different answers to this.

It is in Endless Vigil . Technically there are three different "rules sets" for building lightsabers. The most basic is what's found in the core book. The Game Master's Kit has another set of rules, that are a little more complex, and Endless Vigil has the third, and most expansive, providing the greatest number of options and variation in lightsabers. That is the one with the Mechanics check and can be found on pages 84-87.

10 hours ago, Metalghost said:

These books have conflicting information in them so its no surprise we both were able to find different answers to this.

Tramp is correct. It's not conflicting, it's 3 different options.

The core issue is that FFG wanted to ensure that anyone could "build a lightsaber" so they made 3 ways to do it.

Way 1: Anyone can cook. It's not a masterpiece, but nobody will ever not have access to a lightsaber of their very own.

Way 2: Traditionalist. Some Mechanics/Lore and time and you can cobble together something that is "yours."

Way 3: Techie. Tinker away till you have something unique.

So I have some more questions.

1. Reverse grip, is there a hilt type for this that makes it mechanically different or is it more in the narrative side of details?

2. I know I've got a topic right now about a star wars version of Aqua Man, but I want the most answers possible. So... Saber Trident???

3. Last, can four armed species dual wield two-handed weapons or four single handed?

6 hours ago, swordfishson said:

So I have some more questions.

1. Reverse grip, is there a hilt type for this that makes it mechanically different or is it more in the narrative side of details?

2. I know I've got a topic right now about a star wars version of Aqua Man, but I want the most answers possible. So... Saber Trident???

3. Last, can four armed species dual wield two-handed weapons or four single handed?

1. +1 advantage to any lightsabre tests made with cunning, so using Shien style. Also you look silly.

2. I guess you could fluff a sabrepike as having a cross guard slightly upturned to the sides, which would make it look sort of like a trident. 3 advantages on a crafting check to make a pole lightsabre and you got it.

3. Up to the GM I guess. I guess I would probably allow it.

14 hours ago, swordfishson said:

So I have some more questions.

1. Reverse grip, is there a hilt type for this that makes it mechanically different or is it more in the narrative side of details?

2. I know I've got a topic right now about a star wars version of Aqua Man, but I want the most answers possible. So... Saber Trident???

3. Last, can four armed species dual wield two-handed weapons or four single handed?

1. I'd say the Guard Shoto hilt could be flavoured this way too. Tonfa are wielded in reverse to a "normal" club. And it has its own unique mechanical specs.

2. Yea, pike-saber. I would fluff the trident part (crossguard mod, canted at a 45 degree angle). Same mechanics as those two things combined.

3. Sure. But you have apply dual(/multi) welding mechanics as applicable. Which in the case of wielding 4 sabers, single handed, would be +3 to Difficulty. Same Advantage requirements as always to trigger the second , third, and fourth 'saber hits. I'd probably also throw in a Setback to the initial attack, or even Upgrade the Difficulty once cause of the danger you're also putting yourself in (that's a LOT of plasma swirling around you, and a lot of dangling parts).

That'd be my 2 cred on the topics.