I love that pilots and upgrades can be adjusted on the fly with modifications to points costs and upgrade slots in the squadron builder app. However, I do think that the game will still always have cards that really should be rereleased due to misprints or poor wording. There are also cards that I'm sure the designers would wish they could tweak rather than just jacking up (or slashing) the points cost.

I think a good solution to this would be to release yearly errata packs once or twice a year. They would contain all of the cards that were changed that year. So if it's the year 2021 and you get into the game, you would know to get a pack of the '18, '19, and '20 errata cards in order to be fully up to date. Or they could just number them.

The other alternative would be to simply have a note in the squad builder if a card has been modified, and keep a master list of all cards that have been changed. It would be a simple matter for players to print the high-def card directly from the builder app (and slide it into a sleeve with an original copy of the card at tournaments).

1. I hope they aren't going to be errata'ing enough cards a year to fill out a card pack substantial enough to warrant selling on a store shelf. Hopefully it's kept down to 1-4 cards a year. Wizkids sells card packs for their Star Trek attackwing game for $9.99 and they have 11-15 cards in them.

2. If FFG is profiting from selling their corrections to their own mistakes, they might be incentivized to keep making those mistakes, or at least to not bother to try harder to prevent those mistakes.

3. FFG already sends kits to stores with cards in them, they're called store kits, why not just use those to rerelease errata'd cards? They already do this for other games like Imperial Assault. These kits cost ~$15 and come with 17 copies of each card, so even if you can't make it to an Organized Play event you'll be able to find plenty of copies on ebay for cheap.

1 minute ago, Tvboy said:

1. I hope they aren't going to be errata'ing enough cards a year to fill out a card pack substantial enough to warrant selling on a store shelf. Hopefully it's kept down to 1-4 cards a year. Wizkids sells card packs for their Star Trek attackwing game for $9.99 and they have 11-15 cards in them.

2. If FFG is profiting from selling their corrections to their own mistakes, they might be incentivized to keep making those mistakes, or at least to not bother to try harder to prevent those mistakes.

3. FFG already sends kits to stores with cards in them, they're called store kits, why not just use those to rerelease errata'd cards? They already do this for other games like Imperial Assault. These kits cost ~$15 and come with 17 copies of each card, so even if you can't make it to an Organized Play event you'll be able to find plenty of copies on ebay for cheap.

So functional the same as what he is asking for?

The only difference is you can't buy store kits off of the shelf, you have to actually show up and play and patronize your local game store.

If FFG sold such things, I'd probably buy them.

27 minutes ago, Tvboy said:

The only difference is you can't buy store kits off of the shelf, you have to actually show up and play and patronize your local game store.

But you yourself said "or get them of ebay."

Personally, I'd rather have FFG just sell things directly to customers, than have some awkward secondary market. That's also important because local communities aren't all the same. In a lot of places, there's very little official support, or there aren't too many local game stores, and dovetailing errata-fix cards with tournament kits would be hard on a lot of players.

2 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:

If FFG sold such things, I'd probably buy them.

But you yourself said "or get them of ebay."

Personally, I'd rather have FFG just sell things directly to customers, than have some awkward secondary market. That's also important because local communities aren't all the same. In a lot of places, there's very little official support, or there aren't too many local game stores, and dovetailing errata-fix cards with tournament kits would be hard on a lot of players.

Of course, it's important to remember that errata'd cards are a luxury, not a necessity. An errata doesn't make any of your pre-errata'd cards illegal to use.

This whole discussion was hashed out extensively in the Imperial Assault community when they had their massive game-fixing errata in year 1, and then again when they started doing massive erratas in X-Wing, so I'll bow out of this one. Basically just know that players were flooding the forums and FFG's emails with the same things you just said about availability and individual community needs and directly selling errata'd cards, and FFG flat out officially responded that they would not be providing/selling errata copies for people outside of organized play promos.

The call sign that each unique pilot card has might help here. They can release another version of the same pilot with a different call sign and a slightly different ability. It would provide a fix without being a full errata. Since the call signs are different, they can make rules or list restrictions that single out one or the other.

1 hour ago, Icelom said:

These kits cost ~$15

the new second edition version of these are called attack run kits and they are now $20 for the stores to buy. My FLGS has elected to no longer buy them. But we will be doing the deluxe wave kits.

I've always felt that these prize kits are the perfect way to distribute corrected/ errataed cards.

3 hours ago, MikeEvans said:

I love that pilots and upgrades can be adjusted on the fly with modifications to points costs and upgrade slots in the squadron builder app. However, I do think that the game will still always have cards that really should be rereleased due to misprints or poor wording. There are also cards that I'm sure the designers would wish they could tweak rather than just jacking up (or slashing) the points cost.

I think a good solution to this would be to release yearly errata packs once or twice a year. They would contain all of the cards that were changed that year. So if it's the year 2021 and you get into the game, you would know to get a pack of the '18, '19, and '20 errata cards in order to be fully up to date. Or they could just number them.

The other alternative would be to simply have a note in the squad builder if a card has been modified, and keep a master list of all cards that have been changed. It would be a simple matter for players to print the high-def card directly from the builder app (and slide it into a sleeve with an original copy of the card at tournaments).

I think later expansions packs containing the same upgrade will be worth it but I don't think we need "update" packs for these cards with 2.0. The whole reason is the nature of the errata, now for most errata is is merely working as intended, there is just a little timing or interaction with another card that gets in the way. If you follow the instructions on the card without the errata, 99% of the time you should have the intended reaction. These are not balance erratas meant to adjust one pilots/upgrade meta power level in competitive formats.

5 hours ago, Marinealver said:

I think later expansions packs containing the same upgrade will be worth it but I don't think we need "update" packs for these cards with 2.0. The whole reason is the nature of the errata, now for most errata is is merely working as intended, there is just a little timing or interaction with another card that gets in the way. If you follow the instructions on the card without the errata, 99% of the time you should have the intended reaction. These are not balance erratas meant to adjust one pilots/upgrade meta power level in competitive formats.

It would be nice to get correct cards for all the cards that came in the saws/reaper packs...

I'd be hard pressed if, as a new player, in the year 2021, I had to buy years of errata'd cards. I would hope by that time the expansions I buy contain the correct cards, leaving me to only buy the previous years errata set perhaps... But on the whole, I definitely would welcome your solution!

The whole point of having a living rulebook including FAQ is that YOU DON'T NEED THE PHYSICAL CARDS TO MATCH.

As a board gamer I love all the miniatures/cards/tokens etc., but I also love a balanced game. So I like that the points and slots are moved from the cards to the squad builder* in second edition. I just wonder why the (game effect) text isn't moved too. So I don't want errata cards, I'm already spending too much money on this hobby I want a solution that keeps it a board game, but allows balancing as you see in computer games.

*Too bad that the current state of the squad builder is a disgrace though, but I'm assuming this will be fixed eventually.

On 10/2/2018 at 5:04 AM, Icelom said:

It would be nice to get correct cards for all the cards that came in the saws/reaper packs...

I'm actually waiting/hoping for a Saw's Renegades reprint with updated cards and better s-foils (although the one in my core set wasn't great either, it has slightly bended/curved wings) .