Community-made tools and references are great, and I use them all the time. But one thing that sometimes gets kind of overlooked is citation and sourcing. By which I mean, somebody puts together an awesome .pdf of all the Universal Specialization Talent Trees, for example, but neglects to include info on where they were originally published.

We have a house rule in our group that players (or GMs for that matter) can't use any material that they don't own original and legally-purchased copies of, so sometimes these two factors clash a little bit. Right now, we're trying to put together a resource document of all the specializations available across the three lines. We found a great set of community-authored resources that list all the talent trees in a usable and printable form, and it's easy to track down where the basic Career-sourced Specialization trees come from (all, what, 108 of them?), but we're having a bit of trouble immediately putting books and page numbers to some of the Universal talent trees. Specifically, can anyone tell me where to find these?

Force Adherent

Imperial Academy Cadet

Padawan Survivor

Pirate

Retired Clone Trooper

Ship Captain

Thanks!

1 minute ago, ColonelCrow said:

Community-made tools and references are great, and I use them all the time. But one thing that sometimes gets kind of overlooked is citation and sourcing. By which I mean, somebody puts together an awesome .pdf of all the Universal Specialization Talent Trees, for example, but neglects to include info on where they were originally published.

We have a house rule in our group that players (or GMs for that matter) can't use any material that they don't own original and legally-purchased copies of, so sometimes these two factors clash a little bit. Right now, we're trying to put together a resource document of all the specializations available across the three lines. We found a great set of community-authored resources that list all the talent trees in a usable and printable form, and it's easy to track down where the basic Career-sourced Specialization trees come from (all, what, 108 of them?), but we're having a bit of trouble immediately putting books and page numbers to some of the Universal talent trees. Specifically, can anyone tell me where to find these?

Force Adherent

Imperial Academy Cadet

Padawan Survivor

Pirate

Retired Clone Trooper

Ship Captain

Thanks!

These specializations can all be found in the Dawn of Rebellion Sourcebook .

Just now, Tramp Graphics said:

These specializations can all be found in the Dawn of Rebellion Sourcebook .

Aha! A book I've never managed to lay my hands on yet. Thanks!

On 9/27/2018 at 6:07 PM, ColonelCrow said:

We have a house rule in our group that players (or GMs for that matter) can't use any material that they don't own original and legally-purchased copies of

Why, if you don't mind me asking?

7 hours ago, the mercenary said:

Why, if you don't mind me asking?

Don't mind at all. Several of us are arts or publishing professionals and are sensitive to (and hyperaware of how) pirating negatively impacts people who work with intellectual property and copyright. That's the biggest reason. The next reason is our play style, which is heavy on role-play, story, and background. While this can't be universally true, we noticed that when we had players who depended exclusively on Skill lists and Talent Trees in character design and at the table, they tended to be much more game mechanics minded than fit with our group style. Put another way, we believe it important to read and utilize the narrative descriptions of species, careers, and specializations (even if that utilization is to play against type), and those narrative descriptions aren't available on community-made tools (or at least they shouldn't be). I should say that we're not so hard core about it that couples or roommates can't share books--the minimum is that households have copies of the books where applicable, not individuals.