13 hours ago, Animewarsdude said:

Considering that it seems that all of the racers have a unique ship that only they really fly I wonder how FFG will bring them to the game or if they will bring them to the game.

One model. One unique pilot card. One ship token

At least, one will definitely have enough ship tokens to field the pilot cards one has for these guys.

12 hours ago, Captain Lackwit said:

Come on dude, what did I JUST say a little while ago about Star Wars fans and Thinking ? Do you actually think, for a moment, that they'd really actually make the XG-1 a Rebel only craft...

When the ONLY OTHER SEMI-CANONICAL MENTION OF THE THING'S EXISTENCE IS IMPERIAL!?

Like do you actually think they'd do that? What happened to reading between lines, inferring, learning to just, think for a moment..?

Of course the XG-1 isn't a Rebel craft. Why in god's name would this be a Rebel craft? If for whatever completely inane reason it is later to be proven to be an honest to god Rebel craft, you have my permission to mail me like ten flammable glitter bombs- I will even give you my address to do so with, ****, I'll pay for half of it.

Just do what Star Wars fans refuse to and think for one's self.

I just want so say... it is literally a *-Wing, which is the rebel naming scheme.

8 minutes ago, Muelmuel said:

If only ...

well, I can always hope for T-90

Credits: https://www.deviantart.com/colourbrand/art/Futuristic-X-Wing-634781085

Gosh, that's so much better than what Resistance is putting out there.

13 hours ago, Wraithdt said:

Just follow through on this line of logic. If a turbine doesn’t work in space then its reasonable to assume it is not a turbine. If it’s not a turbine then you can split it in half without any issue. In SW there are many things that resemble conventional real world tech but don’t function the same way. Just keep that in mind in the future;)

Under the same logic: if it doesn't seem to work, then it doesn't need to work. It's just a piece of fiction.

14 hours ago, Captain Lackwit said:

It isn't a turbine you goon. It's a reverse thruster.

Seriously. Like, echoing this forever.

You need to a have a split pulsation-dampener array system for it to be a reverse thruster. This is a crappy turbine.

18 hours ago, player3137305 said:

I've always thought the split engine pods of the T-70 were silly. How the **** does a turbine split in half work? It is a rotating piece of equipment for crying out loud.

I guess you can say that even a complete turbine is useless in space (there is no air), so I guess anything goes in Star Wars.

14 hours ago, AwesomeJedi said:

The front of the engine pod isn't an intake for a turbine. It's actually is a retro-thrust nozzle.

I both of these new ships.

I saw this video by Spacedock and I like how they describe the new X-wings: https://youtu.be/MjncPXXiFlg The New Republic passed a law that limited the number of ships that they could have after the Military Disarmament Act was passed. Instead of having lots of simple, specialized starfighters, they made a few sophisticated, multi-role starfighters.

13 hours ago, Wraithdt said:

Just follow through on this line of logic. If a turbine doesn’t work in space then its reasonable to assume it is not a turbine. If it’s not a turbine then you can split it in half without any issue. In SW there are many things that resemble conventional real world tech but don’t function the same way. Just keep that in mind in the future;)

The "intakes" at the front of the engines aren't really intakes at all (fusion engines don't require airflow to function). They are instead the housings for attitude thrusters, control gyroscopes, debris extractors for the engines, etc. Having a wide open front is a bit silly, but it looks cool!

4 minutes ago, player3137305 said:

Under the same logic: if it doesn't seem to work, then it doesn't need to work. It's just a piece of fiction.

What they said. It's a science-fiction saga in which Newtonian Physics only applies 50% of the time - arguing over semantics, we can have different opinions, but are they really worth arguing over?

14 hours ago, AwesomeJedi said:

The front of the engine pod isn't an intake for a turbine. It's actually is a retro-thrust nozzle.

I both of these new ships.

I saw this video by Spacedock and I like how they describe the new X-wings: https://youtu.be/MjncPXXiFlg The New Republic passed a law that limited the number of ships that they could have after the Military Disarmament Act was passed. Instead of having lots of simple, specialized starfighters, they made a few sophisticated, multi-role starfighters.

Interesting drawing although this just further demonstrates how silly this is.

A turbine needs blades on its inlet and outlet (both connected through a central shaft), with a combustion chamber in the middle. The combustion gases drive the outlet blades, which in turn drive the inlet blades. The inlet blades compress air into the combustion chamber. Thus, the blades are needed for the inlet. Thrust is achieved by jetting the combustion gasses out the engine.

A rocket engine doesn't have blades, because it doesn't need air to be compressed at its inlet. It's combustion chamber just mixes high-pressure reactants and then ejects them through a nozzle/diffuser.

This brings us to the above drawing of the T-65. It has a reactant injector (like a rocket engine) and then a turbo impeller, which is not needed to propel anything (it's actually slowing down the exhaust gases thrust). The T-65 engine does not have blades on the retro-thrust area, which at least makes some sense.

Regarding the T-70, it seems to have radially-arranged blades at the retro-thrust, which would serve no purpose. Blades along a central shaft are used by rotating equipment and you can't rotate "half" of the thing.

I understand this is science fiction. It's just that credible science fiction art/concepts can be made that are just (if not) more amazing. It just takes a bit more creative effort and basic engineering sanity checks.

If that's a T-85 I am not liking it at all. Yhen again, I'm already not a fan of the T-70. The scissoring wing design just looks spindly and awkward, and I don't get why they didn't use T-65D/E/F/Whatever like was done with the EU.

I mean the F-15 has been flying for as long as the period between RotJ and TFA, and despite being less advanced than the F-22, is projected to STILL be the backbone of the USAF for years to come.

But then again, they can sell more toys this way...

1 hour ago, Animewarsdude said:

I do suspect that the Resistance will likely get the T-85 in X-Wing, but doubt we will see them with the craft for the most part unless it showing up in Resistance means that the crew on Episode 9 decided on a design and is letting it show up in Resistance first.

While I don't like it, I don't mind it being added to X-Wing because 'm a little curious how they would handle it be it a case of a docked ship, something that is big and heavy and flyies like a brick that can purge that and jump down to a low health, and faster ship on a small base, or if it just offers different list building depending on if you have the cockpit part plugged into the transport bit.

Oh, sorry. I meant in-lore, I don't think Resistance will have them (unless they find some post-TLJ). I totally expect them in the Resistance faction in XWTMG2.0

2 hours ago, mithril2098 said:

make  up your **** minds. 

Make up my what?

I am happy that people are hyped by this. Anyway I I'm not ashamed of thinking the trailer I saw look like Starfox more than starwars. Hopefully there is plenty of space in the galaxy for all, if they do respect my " what you said mind".

2 hours ago, Muelmuel said:

If only ...

well, I can always hope for T-90

Credits: https://www.deviantart.com/colourbrand/art/Futuristic-X-Wing-634781085

This looks so bland and unappealing to me. The T85 in the preview at least has some color.

52 minutes ago, Ambaryerno said:

I don't get why they didn't use T-65D/E/F/Whatever like was done with the EU.

What I would have liked to see is for them to have used an e-wing design (one of the good ones) instead of just a modified X, then make the standard FO fighters be interceptors and the SF be a 2 seater variant of the defender. Would have paid homage to the original EU, saved them some effort on design, and wouldn’t have cut into toy sales at all because most people aren’t familiar with the E or Defender and the FO color scheme would be new.

So, if they do make a Tie/FO Interceptor, how would it differentiate itself from the Silencer?

The Silencer has the the same ship ability as the Interceptor, and adds some shields. Typically the FO protocol has been to add shields, slightly improve the dial, and call it a day. . . so it sounds like the Silencer is the FO's version of the Interceptor, at least for X-Wing.

I mean, I'm sure the FO Interceptor and TIE Silencer are different ships, but how would you differentiate them in the game?

2 hours ago, player3137305 said:

I understand this is science fiction. It's just that credible science fiction art/concepts can be made that are just (if not) more amazing. It just takes a bit more creative effort and basic engineering sanity checks.

You’re in the wrong universe if you think SW is even science fiction. Its science fantasy with the first part serving more as the paintjob to the latter. Shapes, symbolism and visual themes dictate how ships look rather than what is technically or scientifically sound. Perhaps thats not your cup of tea, thats fine, as long as you understand that this is how Star wars works.

4 minutes ago, Wraithdt said:

Its  science  fantasy 

I wouldn’t even go that far, I’d say “space fantasy”, and remove any pretense of science altogether.

3 hours ago, Rakaydos said:

I just want so say... it is literally a *-Wing, which is the rebel naming scheme.

And it's been that since I was still going to gradeschool.

So that holds exactly zero water as an argument.

2 hours ago, player3137305 said:

You need to a have a split pulsation-dampener array system for it to be a reverse thruster. This is a crappy turbine.

7 minutes ago, Captain Lackwit said:

And it's been that since I was still going to gradeschool.

So that holds exactly zero water as an argument.

Have some sympathy for someone who wanted an obscure rebel craft for their book and put "wing" into wookieepedia.

Credit:

http://www.tiefighters.com/post/163423568962/next-generation-aero-x-wing-concept-created

See, that design doesn't follow the Star Wars asthetic at all. It's more Mass Efffect.

9 minutes ago, redxavier said:

See, that design doesn't follow the Star Wars asthetic at all. It's more Mass Efffect.

Very true, not a great match for Star Wars.

All in all it looks nice though (better than the Porsche 917k rip-off seen on the latest Disney series).

17 minutes ago, redxavier said:

See, that design doesn't follow the Star Wars asthetic at all. It's more Mass Efffect.

Mass Effect or StarCitizen.

Overall it's not bad, borrows a lot of elements from the T-65. Really don't like the canopy tho; visibility from the cockpit would be horrible, and the X-wing has it bad enough already.

2 hours ago, HanScottFirst said:

So, if they do make a Tie/FO Interceptor, how would it differentiate itself from the Silencer?

The Silencer has the the same ship ability as the Interceptor, and adds some shields. Typically the FO protocol has been to add shields, slightly improve the dial, and call it a day. . . so it sounds like the Silencer is the FO's version of the Interceptor, at least for X-Wing.

I mean, I'm sure the FO Interceptor and TIE Silencer are different ships, but how would you differentiate them in the game?

Well, the Interceptor looks like it has lasers on top of they eyeball. So, I could see it getting a bullseye ability. I could see the T-85 having SLAM built into its action bar.

2 hours ago, HanScottFirst said:

So, if they do make a Tie/FO Interceptor, how would it differentiate itself from the Silencer?

The Silencer has the the same ship ability as the Interceptor, and adds some shields. Typically the FO protocol has been to add shields, slightly improve the dial, and call it a day. . . so it sounds like the Silencer is the FO's version of the Interceptor, at least for X-Wing.

I mean, I'm sure the FO Interceptor and TIE Silencer are different ships, but how would you differentiate them in the game?

Well lets think, the Tie Interceptor has a Stat value of 3/3/3/0 with the dial on the left below and the actions Focus, Evade, Barrel Roll, and Boost with the Ship ability Afterburners which allows it to link into a red boost or barrel roll.

The TIE/FO has a stat value of 2/3/3/1 with the middle dial below and the actions Focus, Target Lock, Evade, Barrel Roll.

Lastly we have the Tie Silencer with a stat value of 3/3/4/2 and the actions Focus, Target Lock, Barrel Roll, and Boost with the Ship Ability Afterburners which is the same ability that the Interceptor has.

I imagine the ship would be somewhere between a TIE/FO and Silencer, so likely a stat value of 3/3/3/1 with a dial similar to the Tie silencer but swapping the Talon Rolls out for Sloops and dropping the Blue five forward, and then having the actions Focus, Target Lock, Evade, Barrel Roll, and Boost and would again get the Afterburners ability. If they wanted to keep the fighter from just having the Tie Interceptor's dial I guess they could give it red 1 turns and keep the blue five straight or even swap its 4K for a 5K.

I gotta say I think I like the new X-wing, if this is a T-85 I think I approve.

Some things to note is the nose is slightly different, maybe something for system or a pod? Seems like there is a light or two there. On the sides of the nose it seems there is a fin there based on the ship on the right. Since this ship has eight engines it seems it might have slam, high agility, and/or good dial. Also minor thing but the engine glow is blue, not purple like the 65 and 70, and the middle ones are yellow. So this might be even more of an indication this ship is a next generation one. Seems to have a bit underbelly, wonder if there is any extra weaponry or something in there? Lasers are also stubby, wonder if this is just for show or if there is a reason.

Also I think I see lights on the backside of each laser...more engines or something?

On 9/29/2018 at 1:32 AM, Ixidor said:

This looks so bland and unappealing to me. The T85 in the preview at least has some color.

Well it certainly should not be a direct ripoff of someone else's work. They can probably give it a blue resistance paint scheme no problem. The thing is more about substantially differentiating from the original xwing design while still keeping close to its silhouette