50 minutes ago, JJ48 said:

There was an Interdictor in the EU that wasn't a 418?!

Yup, the Interdictor class Star Destroyer, basically an ISD with gravity wells thrown onto it. Also, just checked wookiepedia, aparently the one in Rebels is now the canon version of this ship as it is also called the Interdictor class Star Destroyer.

I think the next time we see the Arc 170, it will be painted in Republic colours, helping the new faction getting some ships.

Same for Slave 1, Jango's colours.

Shetipede might get a make over to look like it does in Ep2.

I believe the Outrider is supposed to be more Chrome looking? Come on FFG, break out that chrome paint for the Yt-2400 and Naboo ships ;).

The E-wings need a complete overhaul, sooo ugly.

1 hour ago, JJ48 said:

There was an Interdictor in the EU that wasn't a 418?!

At least two other classes of interdiction ship, yes.

20 hours ago, Dwing said:

I think the next time we see the Arc 170, it will be painted in Republic colours, helping the new faction getting some ships.

Same for Slave 1, Jango's colours.

You know, that had slipped my mind. It makes me wonder if it's relevant to the Empire losing access to the Firespray.

Jango-colored Firespray would be an easy reprint for the CIS.

29 minutes ago, Jokubas said:

You know, that had slipped my mind. It makes me wonder if it's relevant to the Empire losing access to the Firespray.

Jango-colored Firespray would be an easy reprint for the CIS.

Wonder if Jango will fly for both CIS and Scum?

21 hours ago, Animewarsdude said:

Yup, the Interdictor class Star Destroyer, basically an ISD with gravity wells thrown onto it. Also, just checked wookiepedia, aparently the one in Rebels is now the canon version of this ship as it is also called the Interdictor class Star Destroyer.

I'm actually not sure that Wookiepedia has that correct. It fits the look just fine but that's not enough to confirm. I'm somewhat certain that they never specifically called it an SD in the show. I think the only mentions of it are calling it an interdictor and an interdictor cruiser.

But I also don't have time to back and watch to be sure.

Totally read the title of this thread wrong,

Thought you meant one of your new ship models somehow changed the basic game mechanic of moving forward.

Like " 2.0 Model changes (the way it works when) moving forward" ?

X-wing Blue Squadron would be nice, e. g. Antoc Merrick (although I made me my own)

I still wait for a Scariff campaign box, Ffg

Then I'd hazard a guess they release A-wing in Phoenix Squadron livery, and the YT24 might get Mart Martin as a pilot if re-released.

On 9/27/2018 at 4:15 AM, That Blasted Samophlange said:

Personally, I don't think the b-wing will get the s-foils in movable form. While it would be nice, I can't think of a way that can be done to keep them from being either too flappy in attack posistion, or that won't make the joint itseld fragile due to size. The x-wing can be done due to the shape, size, and design allows for a durable mechanism not reliant on a small hinge.

<snip>

This exactly; I feel like B-wing foil mechanism would be too fragile, and/or too bulky and would negatively affect the appearance of the ship. It can be argued whether or not the foils have a purpose other than increasing fire spread, landing, and allowing the convergence gun seen in Rebels, but I don't think it's a physical change that needs to be made.

As for the HWK; I'm curious if they will sell a single, multi-faction expansion for the HWK, or separate Scum and Rebel versions. Can't say I would buy either since I'm a HWK-freak and have four, but it would be cool to see a Scum repaint (even though three of mine are repainted/modded).

6 hours ago, Dwing said:

Wonder if Jango will fly for both CIS and Scum?

Could an "ally" mechanic be possible for the game? Like, each faction has ally list that allows picking certain ships from other factions if certain conditions are met, or a player could invest points into an upgrade card that enables these (basically cross-faction tax). A bit like how Maul requires Scum normally, but can be used with Rebels if they have Ezra on a list, but expanded to cover ships instead of individual upgrades.

So, you could have Jango Fett Firespray pilot who is nominally Scum, but accessible to CIS, or likewise Boba Fett would be available to the Empire, or Captain Nym could be available for the Rebels, or DJ who can work for the Resistance or the First Order in addition to Scum.

Obviously such system would have balance implications, and would need to be limited to keep factions special, but it would allow having same era-appropriate pilot available for two factions at once without having separate expansions. I don't see much point in Firespray exclusive just for the CIS to give them access to Jango Fett, Jango is just a merc for hire after all, and he doesn't really have enough surrounding characters and lore (in current canon) to make Lando's Millenium Falcon-like expansion feasible.

It would be largely Scum exclusive feature perhaps, but quite fitting, thematically. Though there is some expansion potential due to certain time periods, like how the early Empire likely used Republic ship designs before they got TIE Fighter production up and running, or how the Resistance might be using some Rebel ships post-ROTJ, or the First Order might be using older Empire TIEs.

Of course it is simpler if Jango Fett ends up being a weird pilot who has special ability to be included in either Scum or CIS lists, though i've no idea how they would release Jango Fett then...

EDIT Then again, i just remembered that Hondo owned the Slave 1 for some time. So, there could be a special Firespray expansion with Jango's paint-job, include several pilots like younger Boba, Hondo, Aurra Sing and Jango Fett, with Jango having special ability to be usable on CIS lists too.

On 9/27/2018 at 8:46 AM, AllWingsStandyingBy said:

I doubt it... I mean we didn't get new sculpts for stubby-winged TIE Fighters nor did Aramda get new sculpts for the giraffe-necked ISDs.

I see this goofy looking YT-2400 as just another stylistic liberty taken by the cartoon. Why assume that the stubby proportions of the show's TIE Fighters, ISDs, and other ships are just "artistic license" but then assume that the same stubby treatment applied to the YT-2400 is some new canonical design?

Hahaha.

You know why? Because they got the guy who designed it originally to come in and redesign it. Now it has a fully canonical appearance that cannot be disputed- y'know why? EU never was canon, and the YT-2400 varied quite a lot here and there.

So now, now we have this.

Considering that the version seen in Rebels has a single turret I wonder if they might not make it so that Dash and Leebo are flying a customized/modified YT-2400 and have the other pilots and generic of the ship have altered stats and a different ship ability. Of course, they could just decide to keep it the same even with the different model for balancing or the like.

3 hours ago, Captain Lackwit said:

You know why? Because they got the guy who designed it originally to come in and redesign it. Now it has a fully canonical appearance that cannot be disputed- y'know why? EU never was canon, and the YT-2400 varied quite a lot here and there.

It already had a fully canonical appearance on the big screen. Lucas added Dash's Outrider to the Mos Eisely scenes in ANH, pretty much solidifying the ship's original look as canon.

1 hour ago, AllWingsStandyingBy said:

It already had a fully canonical appearance on the big screen. Lucas added Dash's Outrider to the Mos Eisely scenes in ANH, pretty much solidifying the ship's original look as canon.

And yet, the Sentinel Shuttle has undergone quite a redesign. (If you really compare, it's quite a bit closer.)

And this look at it? Far closer and more detailed than others. It's my gospel, because it makes sense.

I wish they'd give the E-wing and K-wing new sculpts based more directly on the original source material.

The E-wing uses the Essential Guide to Vehicles, which differs quite significantly in proportions from the design in Dark Empire. The worst part is that the E-wing as shown in the Essential Guide would be too narrow to actually fit a human pilot!

The K-wing uses the godawful WotC artwork as its basis which doesn't even TRY to match Kube-McDowell's description of the fighter in Black Fleet Crisis. According to McDowell, the K-wing is smaller than the TIE bomber, has no fixed or turret weapons emplacements, (though could probably mount modular guns on its pylons. Potential upgrade: Cannon pod. Remove one Ordinance weapon and gain a 2D primary weapon. ) seats both pilots tandem in a single cockpit, and the wing configuration differs slightly.

On 9/27/2018 at 1:51 AM, Sciencius said:

I definitely see the potential for a new sculpt for the YT-2400 as it was featured in REBELS, and with new pilots from the IRON Squadron and capability to dock a Sheathipede.

I would actually be very down for this. The sculpt we got always looked sort of silly to me, even some of the card art such as Leebo's art shows a rounder, pudgier YT-2400, which makes way more sense from the perspective of it being a freighter craft.

On 9/28/2018 at 5:46 PM, Woorloog said:

Of course it is simpler if Jango Fett ends up being a weird pilot who has special ability to be included in either Scum or CIS lists, though i've no idea how they would release Jango Fett then...

You make some good points. It reminds me of the discussions about who should have access to Boba based on his film role compared to his actual affiliations. In that case, Jango probably would work best on Scum, but he did do a lot of important things for the CIS (and their masters) and essentially ended up dying for them, unlike Boba who was last seen on screen around other Scum and Villainy.

However, since a Jango-painted Firespray is theoretically an option for the CIS, it nevertheless makes me wonder if they will stick the ARC on the Republic and Firespray on the CIS relatively early on. It would be a way to help jumpstart the factions with less work, and with the ARC originating with the Republic and Jango being fairly popular, I don't think there would be too much complaint.

The Republic will undoubtedly get the ARC-170 eventually. Too much of a Republic ship. And it will have more than enough pilot options.

The Firespray for the CIS is a bit problematic in that it lacks notable pilots. I most certainly wouldn't mind it for them, if it means Jango's paint job, just wondering how it could happen.

On 9/27/2018 at 2:11 PM, Animewarsdude said:

YT-2400 : Not sure about this one, I could see them keeping the mold the same to save money since it is more niche of a ship or they could try to make a new model based off its incarnation in Rebels. Won’t mind if they do a new sculpt, just means that if and when I fly the old one it will be exclusively for Dash and Leebo.

On 9/27/2018 at 5:21 PM, Sciencius said:

I definitely see the potential for a new sculpt for the YT-2400 as it was featured in REBELS, and with new pilots from the IRON Squadron and capability to dock a Sheathipede.

This is not the Outrider, its 'Sato's Hammer'. Whilst I love Sato's Hammer's design, it would be weird for it to have Dash and Leebo in it in the Outrider expack. I'd love it as a different pack with Iron Squadron pilots etc, but the re-release of the Outrider (BFGs and different cockpit etc) should look like the Outrider.

10 minutes ago, BVRCH said:

This is not the Outrider, its 'Sato's Hammer'. Whilst I love Sato's Hammer's design, it would be weird for it to have Dash and Leebo in it in the Outrider expack. I'd love it as a different pack with Iron Squadron pilots etc, but the re-release of the Outrider (BFGs and different cockpit etc) should look like the Outrider.

Did I call the YT-2400 the Outrider? Might just be misreading your comment. I get it would feel a bit odd with the difference in model but it is up to FFG, but I wouldn't mind the Iron Squadron added as pilots and crew, even if they are very naive/stupid, alongside a Sato's Hammer title.

20 minutes ago, Animewarsdude said:

Did I call the YT-2400 the Outrider? Might just be misreading your comment. I get it would feel a bit odd with the difference in model but it is up to FFG, but I wouldn't mind the Iron Squadron added as pilots and crew, even if they are very naive/stupid, alongside a Sato's Hammer title.

No I'm simply saying that this wouldn't be a substitute re-sculpt like the Y-wing as the Outrider and Sato's Hammer are completely different ships even though they're both YT-2400's. We've only seen the Outrider in XWM, and for Dash etc to be re-released its kinda needs to stay the Outrider sculpt for their pack at least.

That being said, I would also love to see a separate Iron Squadron release with Sato's Hammer re-sculpt and new crew/title etc.

EDIT: Which is totally viable now with 2.0's subtitle system. We could have 2 different versions of YT-2400's. It might actually happen since there will be a bit of a drought for rebel releases for a while.

1 hour ago, BVRCH said:

No I'm simply saying that this wouldn't be a substitute re-sculpt like the Y-wing as the Outrider and Sato's Hammer are completely different ships even though they're both YT-2400's. We've only seen the Outrider in XWM, and for Dash etc to be re-released its kinda needs to stay the Outrider sculpt for their pack at least.

That being said, I would also love to see a separate Iron Squadron release with Sato's Hammer re-sculpt and new crew/title etc.

EDIT: Which is totally viable now with 2.0's subtitle system. We could have 2 different versions of YT-2400's. It might actually happen since there will be a bit of a drought for rebel releases for a while.

Honestly, just looked up the Outrider, and they both look pretty interchangeable to me.

See, here's what I like about having two YT-2400 models.

It'd make the 1.0 release stupidly valuable.

2 minutes ago, JJ48 said:

Honestly, just looked up the Outrider, and they both look pretty interchangeable to me.

An RZ-1 and an RZ-2 A-wing look really similar, but it doesn't mean they're interchangeable.

The Outrider has the big custom heavy laser turrets, the Hammer has a single twin laser turret, they also have different cockpits and the hull plating and exhaust vents are different too. I agree they are similar, they're both 2400's of course, but they are not the same ship.

My point is mainly they need to re-release Dash and Co. and there is no reason to swap the sculpts for that re-release as the current one accurately represents the Outrider. I'm not against a Sato's Hammer version in the game, quite the opposite, I really want it in the game. I'm even part way through a model conversion for it, but mashing Iron Squadron and the Outrider crew together in a box makes no sense, and is a waste of an opportunity to release a new ship that not only looks different, but could function differently too.

Just now, BVRCH said:

An RZ-1 and an RZ-2 A-wing look really similar, but it doesn't mean they're interchangeable.

The Outrider has the big custom heavy laser turrets, the Hammer has a single twin laser turret, they also have different cockpits and the hull plating and exhaust vents are different too. I agree they are similar, they're both 2400's of course, but they are not the same ship.

My point is mainly they need to re-release Dash and Co. and there is no reason to swap the sculpts for that re-release as the current one accurately represents the Outrider. I'm not against a Sato's Hammer version in the game, quite the opposite, I really want it in the game. I'm even part way through a model conversion for it, but mashing Iron Squadron and the Outrider crew together in a box makes no sense, and is a waste of an opportunity to release a new ship that not only looks different, but could function differently too.

Maybe it's just my bias against large turrets in general, but I don't see what is gained by releasing two nearly identical ships for the same faction. At least the Falcon has the excuse of existing across three different factions.

I'm not saying they need to replace the old Outrider , but I do think they should pick one and stick with it.