2 hours ago, BVRCH said:

No I'm simply saying that this wouldn't be a substitute re-sculpt like the Y-wing as the Outrider and Sato's Hammer are completely different ships even though they're both YT-2400's. We've only seen the Outrider in XWM, and for Dash etc to be re-released its kinda needs to stay the Outrider sculpt for their pack at least.

That being said, I would also love to see a separate Iron Squadron release with Sato's Ha  mmer re-sculpt and new crew/title etc.

EDIT: Which is totally viable now with 2.0's subtitle system. We could have 2 different versions of YT-2400's. It might actually happen since there will be a bit of a drought for rebel releases for a while.

They could make an amalgamation of the two, basically using the Sato's Hammer's shape but giving it the Outrider's guns.

5 minutes ago, Animewarsdude said:

They could make an amalgamation of the two, basically using the Sato's Hammer's shape but giving it the Outrider's guns.

They could do that, I just don't see any reason financially or canonically for changing the sculpt for the ship that Dash is in. A better paint job sure, and I can see them resculpting for an Iron Squadron pack, but I just can't see them changing the existing YT-2400 simply for the sake of it.

1 hour ago, JJ48 said:

Maybe it's just my bias against large turrets in general, but I don't see what is gained by releasing two nearly identical ships for the same faction. At least the Falcon has the excuse of existing across three different factions.

I'm not saying they need to replace the old Outrider , but I do think they should pick one and stick with it.

I agree with you in that I don't see a need for them to change the existing sculpt. Its accurate to Dash's ship.

I disagree with the Outrider and the Hammer being nearly identical (except for aesthetically). I see the Hammer as closer to a Shadowcaster mechanically. I could the see Hammer with less red dice and a single turret arc (its weapon is smaller and only has one), less HP (Dash upgraded both hull and shields on the Outrider), and the most interesting part being the new pilots and crew. The episode it features in shows it facing down a whole squadron, bombing with rigged cargo containers. Mechanically it has potential to be very different to the squirrelly BFG that Dash is. I understand that its technically the same model ship, and the generic ships would be little less flavoursome in comparison, but I do think there would be enough variation to differentiate the two in a meaningful way if they did decide to release a new version.

I would like to see the scale of the K-Wing to be a tad larger, so the cockpits, gunner pods, dont look like they were made for Ewoks instead of Humanoids

7 hours ago, Zeoinx said:

I would like to see the scale of the K-Wing to be a tad larger, so the cockpits, gunner pods, dont look like they were made for Ewoks instead of Humanoids

That's funny considering the CREATOR of the thing said it was supposed to be smaller than a TIE bomber.

2 minutes ago, Ambaryerno said:

That's funny considering the CREATOR of the thing said it was supposed to be smaller than a TIE bomber.

I always imagined the K-Wing when I first saw the "current" design, as either the A-10, or AC-130 style role, where it just bombards an area with as much fire power as could be pumped out of the ship.

13 minutes ago, Ambaryerno said:

That's funny considering the CREATOR of the thing said it was supposed to be smaller than a TIE bomber.

I mean, if we're going down that route then the K-Wing has been totally bastardised since its original creation.

The K-Wing was originally a single cockpit fighter with an RTO/weapons officer sat behind the pilot like modern strike aircraft, and had no guns.

The third thruster is also supposed to be on the underside of the fuselage slanting upwards to help the K-Wing pull out of a dive, not on the topside slanting down for.... some reason.

The K-Wing is supposed to look much more like this (only probably without the guns on the wingtips)

Ew at that "K-wing". The actual version is far better looking, though i will admit it is not exactly a smaller bomber akin the Y-wing unlike that... thing.

3 hours ago, GuacCousteau said:

The third thruster is also supposed to be on the underside of the fuselage slanting upwards to help the K-Wing pull out of a dive, not on the topside slanting down for.... some reason.

IIRC, the third engine was vectored, not fixed, and was more centrally-mounted in hull the middle of a substantial repulsorlift array.

Yeah, I remember that design. It's not GREAT, but it's a **** of a lot closer than the hideous monstrosity Wizards of the Coast came up with when they took over the RPG. I'd imagine you could probably have external gun pods mounted on the ordinance pylons.

48 minutes ago, Woorloog said:

Ew at that "K-wing". The actual version is far better looking, though i will admit it is not exactly a smaller bomber akin the Y-wing unlike that... thing. 

That "thing" is FAR closer to what Kube-McDowell actually described. The WotC K-wing is one of THE most horrific bastardizations an artist has ever done with a writer's design.

One of these days I need to finish my own "BFC K-Wing" design.

Never read whatever the K-Wing first appeared in, so whatever. Always liked the WotC version a lot.

19 hours ago, Ambaryerno said:

Yeah, I remember that design. It's not GREAT, but it's a **** of a lot closer than the hideous monstrosity Wizards of the Coast came up with when they took over the RPG. I'd imagine you could probably have external gun pods mounted on the ordinance pylons.

It still surprises me that there's only been one attempt at replicating the original K-Wing design, and it's a c.fifteen year old model for a game that was four years old at the time.

Being another Koensayr design, I always figured the cockpit area should be more similar to a Y-Wing, and I like the big wingspan and underslung ordnance of the NEGVV version, as well as the fact that they at least included the skids on the lower wings. But the double cockpit, those stupid ball turrets and the weird downward engine annoy me so much.

I will just go through the models that I think WILL get a new sculpt or paintjob.

Rebels:

Millennium Falcon: Yes

A-Wing: No but yes to a repaint

B-Wing: Yes

HWK-290: No, engine glow may be added

E-Wing: Yes

K-Wing: Yes, they may make this ship even BIGGER so it looks more suitable for the medium base and the various turrets it has etc..

ARC-170: Repaint maybe to make it look more distinct from the upcoming republic version

Imperials:

Lambda Shuttle: No new sculpt but I think they will tidy up the paintjob and give it a cleaner white finish.

Tie Defender: Yes, I think they will probably push it towards the rebels version

Scum:

Y-Wing: New sculpt with a different scum paintjob than before

HWK-290: New paintjob

Scyk Interceptor: New paintjob

IG-2000: New sculpt

Starviper: New sculpt with flappy wings

Kihraxz Fighter: New paintjob

Havoc: New paintjob

Resistance:

T-70 X-Wing: New paintjob

FO:

Tie Silencer: New sculpt

I'm curious as to what they might do to the HWK-290. We have a Rebel paint job in canon now, as well as one that's mostly black. I'm not particularly fond of the Rebel one, but perhaps if done right on the model, it could make the HWK-290 look somewhat uniform with the rest of the fleet, which could be cool. The current paint job looks better for Scum, even if the Moldy Crow was most notable as a Rebel ship itself. With them moving away from Legends stuff, however, that may not matter.

In the end, it's not a ship I really expect them to touch because there's no outstanding reason to. If they are willing to make more minor changes like paint jobs, just to give veterans a reason to maybe buy a ship one more time, however, there is some new canon that might tempt them.

Personally, I almost kind of want those alternate paint jobs just because it's something different, but I wouldn't want the Moldy Crow version to go completely out of print.

On 9/28/2018 at 8:04 PM, Captain Lackwit said:

You   know why? Because they got the guy who designed it originally to come in and redesign it. Now it has a fully canonical appearance that cannot be disputed- y'know why? EU never was canon, and the YT-2400 varied quite a lot here and there.  

Wrong. Shadows of the Empire was essentially Lucasfilm's first attempt to establish new canon outside of the films. That's why they did a novel, a comic series, a video game, and a whole new toy line.

Until Disney annulled the EU, SotE was canon.

Finally (opinion) the original 2400 design with the slightly elongated neck is far more visually appealing than the disc with a tube on the side we saw in Rebels.

5 hours ago, Jokubas said:

I'm curious as to what they might do to the HWK-290  . We have a Rebel paint job  in canon now, as well as one that's mostly black. I'm not particularly fond of the Rebel one, but perhaps if done right on the model, it could make the HWK-290 look somewhat uniform with the rest of the fleet, which could be cool. The current paint job looks better for Scum, even if the Moldy Crow was most notable as a Rebel ship itself. With them moving away from Legends stuff, however, that may not matter.

In the end, it's not a ship I really expect them to touch because there's no outstanding reason to. If they are willing to make more minor changes like paint jobs, just to give veterans a reason to maybe buy a ship one more time, however, there is some new canon that might tempt them.

Personally, I almost kind of want those alternate paint jobs just because it's something different, but I wouldn't want the Moldy Crow version to go completely out of print.

Do you mean this one?

Considering that the HWK-290 shares its title with both Rebels and Scum I wonder if they might not just have it where they release it as a dual faction pack with the Rebel and Scum pilots while maintaining the same paint scheme or just an updated one.

12 hours ago, william1134 said:

A-Wing: No but yes to a repaint

So just a touched up one or them changing the ROTJ scheme for the ROTJ conceptart/Rebels paint scheme?

12 hours ago, william1134 said:

IG-2000: New sculpt

What do you think would be the difference?

12 hours ago, william1134 said:

Havoc: New paintjob

If they release one in Nym's colors I might consider buying one.

12 hours ago, william1134 said:

T-70 X-Wing: New paintjob

You mean the Wave 2 one or do you think they might release one in Poe's colors at somepoint?

12 hours ago, william1134 said:

Starviper: New sculpt with flappy wings

With as small as those connection points are on the mini? You're nuts.

15 hours ago, william1134 said:

Resistance:

T-70 X-Wing: New paintjob

If you look at the preorder banner on the front page, it has closed wings. I don't think anyone wasn't expecting the flappy wing version to exist but I don't know if they've stated it anywhere.

4 hours ago, StriderZessei said:

Wrong. Shadows of the Empire was essentially Lucasfilm's first attempt to establish new canon outside of the films. That's why they did a novel, a comic series, a video game, and a whole new toy line.

Until Disney annulled the EU, SotE was canon.

Finally (opinion) the original 2400 design with the slightly elongated neck is far more visually appealing than the disc with a tube on the side we saw in Rebels.

I like the smoothed out, simpler YT-2400 in Rebels. Made it feel more common but not at all in a bad way. That said, the EU at large was still not canon, even if SoTE was.

And frankly, I'm glad SoTE, TFU, and others of its ilk no longer are. Both were such a jumbled frakkin' mess that it was impossible to reconcile their bull.

On 10/3/2018 at 10:16 PM, BVRCH said:

They could do that, I just don't see any reason financially or canonically for changing the sculpt for the ship that Dash is in. A better paint job sure, and I can see them resculpting for an Iron Squadron pack, but I just can't see them changing the existing YT-2400 simply for the sake of it.

You do realize we’re almost certain to get Iron Squadron in the YT-2400 rerelease, not a separate pack? Each of the new expansions are coming with new pilots.

On 10/5/2018 at 9:42 PM, Captain Lackwit said:

'm  glad SoTE, TFU, and others of its ilk no longer are. Both  were such a jumbled frakkin  '  mess that it was impossible to reconcile their bull.  

I agree the vast majority of the EU was pretty bad (which is why I'm so forgiving towards the sequel trilogy,) but I quite liked SotE and Heir to the Empire.

Can I just go ahead and say I don't want to see any more added articulation on the models?

Like, the new X-Wing model with the folding wings is, frankly, much flimsier than the old model. It's much more difficult to put it on and off the peg without breaking it than the old one was, and it's less stable too.

I know some folks think it's cool that it does that and all, but they don't really serve any purpose and they, frankly, make the model harder to use and much easier to break.

On 10/6/2018 at 1:18 PM, WAC47 said:

You do realize we’re almost certain to get Iron Squadron in the YT-2400 rerelease, not a separate pack? Each of the new expansions are coming with new pilots.

I'm not going to repeat myself every time someone decides to chime in. Read all of my reponses and you'll see my opinion. Or don't, I don't care.