Barrage Rockets..so much for not having to make purchases across Factions

By faceyfood, in X-Wing

2 hours ago, LordBlades said:

Not anymore apparently. Several people have reported asking for replacements for some rather serious misprints in the conversion kits and being refused because the components are 'within tolerances'.

I am still waiting for my polish publisher to respond. As it stands 2 weeks passed and no info about changing my misprinted Scum Conversion Kit's elements.

It looks more and more with each passing day as scam.

27 minutes ago, Embir82 said:

I am still waiting for my polish publisher to respond. As it stands 2 weeks passed and no info about changing my misprinted Scum Conversion Kit's elements.

It looks more and more with each passing day as scam.

Good luck. Buncha spots got shorted scum kits. Enough that some preorders didn't get filled. I'd be surprised if there are enough spares for them to help if they wanted to. Considering those were all likely used up to plug distribution holes.

If this was anything but a SW game it would have died in this launch.

But is nerds will carry them through cause we love our toy spaceships so it is what it is.

11 hours ago, Tvboy said:

No, you have to have the cards.

They were left off the cards so FFG can change points and upgrades as needed without contradicting people’s printed cards.

Well then I guess the claim of the article stating you didn't need to cross faction for upgrades was false. It wouldn't be the first time they have been incorrect in their official articles, but they never have been wrong on this magnitude before.

4 hours ago, Marinealver said:

Well then I guess the claim of the article stating you didn't need to cross faction for upgrades was false. It wouldn't be the first time they have been incorrect in their official articles, but they never have been wrong on this magnitude before.

Or they intended it to be correct, but a series of mistakes were made with the tight printing deadline.

At the time the print was ordered only the imps had double missile slot.

The solo falcon probably came after and is really wave 1.5

im guessing the double faction uniques were a whoops.

17 hours ago, Marinealver said:

Would a printout from the official app work or is that incorrect? What was the official document that said cards are a requirement for tournaments?

If that is the case, then why leave points and upgrade slots off the cards?

Just to add: at this point, the app doesn't show which actions are red, either.

3 hours ago, ScummyRebel said:

Or they intended it to be correct, but a series of mistakes were made with the tight printing deadline.

At the time the print was ordered only the imps had double missile slot.

The solo falcon probably came after and is really wave 1.5

im guessing the double faction uniques were a whoops.

Your theory doesn't explain the Moldy Crow title not being included in the Scum conversion kit, or Agile Gunner being in none of the conversion kits, or any of the other examples people have given.

And maybe if one of the features of your new game is that upgrade slots can be changed on a whim, don't cut people off from upgrades just because of their upgrade slots? It doesn't hurt to just give everyone Barrage Rockets just in case, I don't know, they change the upgrade slots in the future, especially since the faction that does use them the most tends to need 4 of them anyway.

13 minutes ago, Tvboy said:

Your theory doesn't explain the Moldy Crow title not being included in the Scum conversion kit, or Agile Gunner being in none of the conversion kits, or any of the other examples people have given.

Funny, I think both of those were called out. Agile gunner is part of 1.5, not wave 1, in my theory.

And the moldy crow is an example of the immediate oops I cited.

Were mistakes made? Yup. But I think all the people screaming they were lied to and this is all a malicious conspiracy is pretty foolish.

3 hours ago, ScummyRebel said:

Funny, I think both of those were called out. Agile gunner is part of 1.5, not wave 1, in my theory.

And the moldy crow is an example of the immediate oops I cited.

Were mistakes made? Yup. But I think all the people screaming they were lied to and this is all a malicious conspiracy is pretty foolish.

Never attribute to malice that which is easier explained by incompetence right?

6 minutes ago, Dabirdisdaword said:

Never attribute to malice that which is easier explained by incompetence right?

Malice requires competence, which I'm not particularly willing to attribute to FFG in general, given the rollout state and functionality of the squad app.

3 hours ago, ScummyRebel said:

Were mistakes made? Yup. But I think all the people screaming they were lied to and this is all a malicious conspiracy is pretty foolish.

Well, people were lied to and most people (myself included) just think it's rude/inconsiderate to lie to your customers' face.

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3 minutes ago, LordBlades said:

Well, people were lied to and most people (myself included) just tbi K it's rude m/inconsiderate to lie to your customers' face.

Seriously, stuff like this puts you solidly in the tinfoil crowd. As a customer, you have 3 choices. Walk away, deal with it, or sue them. (well, I guess you have a 4th, which is whine incessantly but that's just a tantrum filled version of #2, dealing with it).

Ofc the easiest way to solve this is for ffg to update the app, removing the 2nd slot from Kwings. That’ll make everyone happy, yep? ???

Edited by Max Teranous
On 9/27/2018 at 3:07 PM, Vineheart01 said:

Punisher, Bomber, TIE/Agg, and Kwings are the only doublemissile right now.

what, not our Lord and Savior the .... GUNBOAT?!
4 nu with barrage + jonus seems like it would be good. You lose the bomb on the similar build with bombers, but you are way harder to kill, with the shields and extra life, and you can still slam and come back for more

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18 minutes ago, JasonCole said:

Seriously, stuff like this puts you solidly in the tinfoil crowd. As a customer, you have 3 choices. Walk away, deal with it, or sue them. (well, I guess you have a 4th, which is whine incessantly but that's just a tantrum filled version of #2, dealing with it).

Actually, customer criticism is probably one of the driving forces of improving a business. When a company pulls some stuff like that, I think they deserve to be called out for it. If enough people do, they will notice.

5 minutes ago, LordBlades said:

Actually, customer criticism is probably one of the driving forces of improving a business. When a company pulls some stuff like that, I think they deserve to be called out for it. If enough people do, they will notice.

Criticism is one thing, and I think that's fair. Accusing them of some nefarious plot to deprive you of your toys is something else.

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muh spellun!
11 minutes ago, JasonCole said:

Criticism is one thing, and I think that's fair. Accusing them of some nefarious plot to deprive you of your toys is something else.

Huh?

I didn't accuse FFG of anything. On the contrary, I'm certain the root of the matter is incompetence (in this specific matter, the app is another discussion altogether) as I fail to see what FFG could possibly gain by saying stuff anyone can immediately see as untrue. Doubly so if said stuff is supposed to encourage people t to buy less by sticking to a single faction.

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Then I guess I misinterpreted your criticism. Very doable in text.

31 minutes ago, Max Teranous said:

Ofc the easiest way to solve this is for ffg to update the app, removing the 2nd slot from Kwings. That’ll make everyone happy, yep? ???

Yep. They have an app; may as well use that to solve all problems!

(Speaking of which, whose hand do you have to grease to ensure that Scum get "fixed" from the app completely?)