LoS question

By Fightwookies, in Imperial Assault Rules Questions

2 hours ago, Fightwookies said:

So, RaI for campaign and RaW for skirmish? (Pending a future clarification in the next faq)

Well if Todd confirmed so there's no interpretation to do. It will work same way both in campaign and skirmish

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On 9/30/2018 at 1:47 PM, a1bert said:

Btw, Todd confirmed the intent being  that the line of  sight line works like shown and worded in the line of sight examples. I.e. you can draw line of sight (to and) from a corner where a figure  and  wall, door, blocking terrain (space or edge), or energy shield intersect, but not through it.

(My example is also currently valid. Can't say about future.)

Sorry, I just caught up with this thread! Honestly, I just got back from vacation & figured out that the notifications I'm seeing aren't all from my original thread.

It looks like the app is working correctly in this case but I am happy to investigate and update the app to fix bugs anyone finds. @ Fightwookies you have found some crazy LOS scenarios!

We're in the future now for the other corner cases:

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Both cases illegal. AWESOME :)

Q: When attacking in Imperial Assault, do the line of sight and accuracy (counting spaces) have to share the same path from attacker to the targeted space? One example is shown at the 7:00 minute point of this youtube video.

Reply from Todd:

Spaces do not need to be counted along the same path as line of sight. The video seems to cover this quirk correctly.

Thanks for the question!

In addition, accuracy considers the distance between the figures, not the distance to the target space from the corner that was used to draw line of sight. (Affects the required accuracy when target or attacker or both are Large figures.)

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I have a plan for fixing the line of sight changes in the Line of Sight Calculator. Thanks again to @Fightwookies for pointing these situations out so that we could get clarification!

4 hours ago, Sarge144 said:

I have a plan for fixing the line of sight changes in the Line of Sight Calculator. Thanks again to @Fightwookies for pointing these situations out so that we could get clarification!

Is this in latest fix you just advertised in the other post?

1 hour ago, Golan Trevize said:

Is this in latest fix you just advertised in the other post?

No. The latest feature is displaying all line of sight for attacker or to defender.

The line of sight rules change will be a separate release :)

@Fightwookies @Golan Trevize A fix has been checked in to accommodate the rules update.

Thanks very much for pointing out that the app wasn't in line with the rules! The whole purpose of the app is to clear up LoS questions, so I'm trying to keep it as accurate as possible.

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On ‎10‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 2:13 PM, Dr Tan said:

Q: When attacking in Imperial Assault, do the line of sight and accuracy (counting spaces) have to share the same path from attacker to the targeted space? One example is shown at the 7:00 minute point of this youtube video.

Reply from Todd:

Spaces do not need to be counted along the same path as line of sight. The video seems to cover this quirk correctly.

Thanks for the question!

So, just to clarify; Iggy's shot on Han here is Range 6, not Range 8?

53 minutes ago, Majushi said:

So, just to clarify; Iggy's shot on Han here is Range 6, not Range 8?

If it's 6 I'll quit this game

2 hours ago, Golan Trevize said:

If it's 6 I'll quit this game

It comes down to the wording, but I think you use counting spaces for distance (which can be separate from the two lines used to confirm if you have LoS)

It's an extreme example of the case where someone shoots around a corner, but must count an additional space around the corner when determining accuracy required.

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In this image, if Han was in the circled space, Iggy would need an accuracy of 2 to hit.

2 hours ago, Majushi said:

It comes down to the wording, but I think you use counting spaces for distance (which can be separate from the two lines used to confirm if you have LoS)

It's an extreme example of the case where someone shoots around a corner, but must count an additional space around the corner when determining accuracy required.

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In this image, if Han was in the circled space, Iggy would need an accuracy of 2 to hit.

That I know it's 2, but counting 6 from there is crazy stuff. Makes absolutely no sense

7 hours ago, Golan Trevize said:

If it's 6 I'll quit this game

Sorry to see you go. Yes, it's 6. Line of sight and accuracy are determined completely separately.

The required accuracy is the distance between figures, which can also be much shorter than the distance between "source" and target spaces if one or both figures are Large.

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2 minutes ago, a1bert said:

Sorry to see you go. Line of sight and accuracy are determined completely separately.

The required accuracy is the distance between figures, which can also be much shorter than the distance between "source" and target spaces if one or both figures are Large.

I'm doing this quiz to all people and no one can give right answer :D they all say 8, this is amazing!

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One of the easily missed things when you read the rules, just like using adjacent corners of the target space for line of sight.

You make an assumption or miss part of the rules, and it stucks with you.

The difference doesn't really come up that often though for both cases.

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