My understanding is that stealth device is only wise on a 3 agi ship, but folks don't seem to think it's worth the points at 8. Makes sense to me, it's more expensive now and lacks the things that made it stick around in 1e like AT.

As for hull and shield, might be worth it on low agi ships now? Hull U. seems almost ideal on a tua ship (put it on tua kagi?) and it's a 'half point' extra for crit blockage for the Shield U.

So?

Stealth Device i have yet to actually attempt to use. I really dont like that "Damage" causes it to drop now, not "being hit" - i feel like its overpriced at that point because once again only 3agi ships can potentially keep it, and its way expensive on them.

Hull/Shield on 0-1 agi ships are practically auto include imo. So cheap! 2agi/3agi, debatable

On 1 agi ships, for me me at least, i have shield upgrade stapled to them.

We will see if this is wise as i get more games and squad building under my belt.

Geez, didn't realize that it was just damage that removed sd. As for low agility ships, those were my first choices for h/s upgrades so that's great!

Yeah the damage part is stupid.

So now it can be shut down by autohit effects (Vadercrew caught you w/ no tokens? BYEBYE STEALTH DEVICE!) or you hit a rock and took damage.
Its not even cheaper. Its actually MORE expensive at the same time of being worse.

In 1.0 it was 3pts, but because it went away the moment you got hit only 3agi ships that could tokenstack used it. There were several 3agi ships that DIDNT use it because they lacked the evade token access.
In 2.0, its EIGHT POINTS (effectively 4pts in 1.0 terms) for the same ships AND it goes away easier AND evade tokens dont help you evade as good (admittedly, thats a mild issue with 4-5 green dice).

Its another card that got nerfed to oblivion. Never use it. Hull is 2/3pts on a 0/1 agi ship, take that instead. Cheaper and guaranteed to "stop one damage" - though it does have crit vulnerability.

Stealth is stupid expensive and not worth it on anybody who can take it. (I might have used it on a Defender). Hull/Shield upgrade are fine on low agility ships, but again are a bit too expensive on Imperial high agility ships that actually need the extra health.

I see, thanks for the input

Stealth is good on Whisper. With the tokens Whisper gets the Stealth can do a lot of work and it's only 6pts.

I wouldn't bother with stealth anywhere else.

If your total hull and shields is an even number, Hull or Shield Upgrade also increase the amount of damage your opponent needs to inflict to get half points. E.g. they would have to inflict 3 damage on a TIE Striker rather than just 2, which could make a difference.

Stealth device is for hwks with moldly

I've been tempted to try Shield and Hull Upgrades on a Virago Guri. It's stupidly expensive, but at the same time you're looking at a small-based ship with crazy barrel rolls and a 3/3/5/3 statline at initiative 5.

I might also consider it for Soontir, as it pushes him out of "Killed by one hit" territory and is still cheaper than the he was in 1.0.

Stealth Device C3Leebo. Double calculates and gets a calculate back every time at least 1 was spent.

VCX always gets hull or shield in my lists, but it’s still awful.

I'm intermittently using Stealth Device on my Boba build with Lone Wolf, IG-88D, and Han Solo. If I have the 6 points to spare, I'll throw it in and make that first hit on Bob take longer. With all of the tokens and rerolls, that extra die stays a live for a while.

2 hours ago, PhantomFO said:

I've been tempted to try Shield and Hull Upgrades on a Virago Guri. It's stupidly expensive, but at the same time you're looking at a small-based ship with crazy barrel rolls and a 3/3/5/3 statline at initiative 5.

I might also consider it for Soontir, as it pushes him out of "Killed by one hit" territory and is still cheaper than the he was in 1.0.

i tried it today, Guri will not die

I'm generally unconvinced by Modifications at the moment. They all seem too expensive for what they offer. Stealth Device may be a minor exception, but I agree with @SOTL that it's probably only really good on Whisper. The hull and shield upgrades all seem a bit too expensive to me, but I suppose if you have the points to spare and nothing else to take they might be worth considering.

I like shield+hull or stealth on Soontir sometimes just to keep him around more reliably in a pinch. One notable squad is Soontir w/ mods with Howlrunner and 4 academy pilots at 199/200 points. Dropping the mods on Soontir doesn't free enough points to plug Iden Versio into the swarm so the opportunity cost doesn't feel too bad.

I also played an overstuffed Guri build with Virago and double mods that I enjoyed but it's a hefty investment that probably isn't as competitive. Getting TIE Defender health on Guri is pretty fun though, if only it were a bit cheaper.

What does everyone think of my Tua/Kagi idea? Obviously a great place for hull upgrade but I'm wondering if there just isn't enough hull in the first place for Tua to do her work?